Microsoft: "2011 is all about Kinect"

**leaffan** · 12-28-2010, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Maynard

i been saying this for years. its been a growing trend and is even more at the forefront today. hardcore gamers are becoming irrelevant to what the industry is doing. They are all looking for the next big thing that will intrigue the younger generation. These motion games are all about group interaction and family gaming. But these are games mostly geared towards young kids and their parents who can play without it being to advanced for them.

the industry will still keep pumping out games for the hardcore gamer, but the trend has also shifted bigtime into making a game that can be copied several times over. This allows them to Madden a product for a steady flow of revenue while they focus on developing these new technologies.

The hardcore gamer is really a moron and will buy games no matter what. the dves know this. Look at black ops compared to COD4. its essentially the same game and the devs dont have to invest much money into its new features and they make a shitload off of it. They made billions off of a game that was created in 2007. 3 games that are the same as the original.

Except CoD4 is better then the rest.

**Maynard** · 12-28-2010, 10:58 AM

exactly

**Twigg4075** · 12-28-2010, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by Al Golden

wrong again

LittleBigPlanet 2
Killzone 3
Motorstorm: Apocalypse
Ico/Shadow of the Colossus HD Collection
Resistance 3
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Twisted Metal
inFamous 2
Socom 4
Yakuza 4
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
MLB 2011: The Show
Disgaea 4
Ar Tonelico 3
Hyperdimension Neptunia
Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll Zero

and exlusive PSN games...

Journey
Eufloria
Tokyo Jungle
PixelJunk Shooter 2

Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL

That PS3 list might as well be dubbed games noone will give a shit about. The same list of games was supposed to make waves 2-3 years ago and noone gave a fuck then.

Are you delusional? Every one of the games I bolded has sold millions of copies (every game in the franchise). No one gives a fuck about them? LMAO.

**Maynard** · 12-28-2010, 02:42 PM

buying them doesnt make them good.

there is only one game on that list i would pay $60 for. Then i would rent 2 more of them.

Only a few have had any real staying power

**tigstah** · 12-28-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Primetime232

Fuck Move.
Fuck motion gaming.
Fuck Sony.

i'm just saying

**Twigg4075** · 12-28-2010, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Maynard

buying them doesnt make them good.

there is only one game on that list i would pay $60 for. Then i would rent 2 more of them.

Only a few have had any real staying power

And just because YOU wouldn't buy them doesn't mean they aren't any good either.

But if you want more proof every one of those games has over an 80 on Metacritic. So between reviews and sales I think it's easy to say they are quality games. To say "no one gives a shit about them" it's a fucking joke. But the mere fact alone that these games sell millions means OBVIOUSLY someone cares about them.

But here are the scores anyway.

LBP=95

LittleBigPlanet Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/littlebigplanet

In LittleBigPlanet Players meet on a blue and green planet scattered with individual plots – and use their character's amazing abilities to play, create and share what they build with other gamers throughout the world via the Playstation Network. The LittleBigPlanet experience starts with players learning about their character’s powers to interact physically with the environment. There are places to explore, creative resources to collect and puzzles to solve – all requiring a combination of brains and collaborative teamwork. As soon as players begin their creative skills will grow and they will soon be ready to start creating and modifying their surroundings – the first step to sharing them with the whole community.Characters have the power to move anything in this glued and stitched-together 3D landscape; they have the power to design, shape and build both objects and entire locations for others to view and play. There’s no complicated level editor; all of these skills can be learned by simply playing the game. Creativity is part of the gameplay experience and playing is part of the creative experience. Players can make their world as open or as secretive to explore as they like. When it’s ready, they can invite anyone within the LittleBigPlanet community to come and explore their patch – or can go and explore everybody else's. [SCEA]

Killzone 2=91

Killzone 2 Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/killzone-2

Two years after the Helghast assault on Vekta, the ISA is taking the fight to the enemy's home world of Helghan. The ISA goal is direct: capture the Helghast leader, Emperor Visari, and bring the Helghast war machine to a halt. Assuming the role of Sev, a battle-hardened veteran and a member of the special forces unit known as the Legion, players lead a group of highly trained soldiers on a mission to take out the Helghast threat. For Sev and his squad, the invasion of Helghan is just the beginning. Tasked with securing Pyrrhus, the Capital City, the team quickly discovers that the Helghast are a formidable enemy on their home planet. Not only have they adjusted to the planet's hostile conditions, they have also harnessed a source of power they can now use against the ISA. Sev discovers his squad isn't just fighting enemy forces – their fiercest opponent may be the planet itself. [Sony]

MotorStorm=84

MotorStorm Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/motorstorm

Welcome to MotorStorm, the world's most brutal off-road racing event where the goal is to win at all costs. Choose from seven vehicle types, from high-flying dirt bikes to powerful big rigs, and destroy anything that gets in your way in a no-holds barred sprint to the finish. Try and survive. Real-Time Deforming Terrain: The terrain literally gets torn up with each passing vehicle, causing each lap to be different. Advanced particle effects cause debris and muck to "stick" to each vehicle. Vehicular Combat and Damage: Destroy anything that gets in your way. Smash your opponents and view spectacular Hollywood-style crash sequences. [SCEE] Editor's Note: This JPN Import Version title lacks multiplayer, which has had an effect on just about every import review.

MotorStorm:PR=82

MotorStorm: Pacific Rift Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/motorstorm-pacific-rift

The brutal offroad racing festival is back, with players this time attempting to tackle the diversity and unpredictability of a remote Pacific island environment. MotorStorm: Pacific Rift revisits the intense racing action introduced in last year's MotorStorm, this time allowing players to navigate a radically different tropical environment chock full of lush jungle, towering peaks, and crystal-clear water. Players experience a greater selection of tracks and vehicles to choose, as well as extensive multiplayer options including four player split screen and races with up to 20 players online. Additionally players can utilize a new photo mode to save images within the game and for the first time be able to take music from their PS3's HDD to create a customized soundtrack. [Sony]

Ico=90

ICO Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/ico

Assume the role of Ico, a courageous young boy born with horns who has been delivered to a mysterious castle to be sacrificed so that, according to legend, the community will be saved. Attempt to escape the grounds and save a princess through a variety of mazes, brainteasers, and other puzzles.

SotC=91

Shadow of the Colossus Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/shadow-of-the-colossus

(Also known as "Wanda and the Colossus" or "Wanda to Kyozou" in Japan) In Shadow of the Colossus, players take the role of a young man seeking the truth of an ancient tale of power hidden in a mystical land. Shadow of the Colossus is a majestic journey through ancient lands to seek out and destroy gigantic mythical beasts. With a trusty horse at your side, players explore the spacious lands and unearth each Colossi. The uneasy task of defeating a Colossus relies on intelligent puzzle solving and action oriented gameplay. Armed with strong wits, a mystical sword and a sturdy bow, players use cunning and strategy to topple each behemoth. [Sony]

Resistance=86

Resistance: Fall of Man Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/resistance-fall-of-man

In Resistance: Fall of Man, the U.S. and Britain band together in a last-ditch effort to save Europe and Asia from a horrific scourge. In mere decades, the Chimera - a species of unknown origin propagating a virus that converts other life forms into more Chimera - has overrun Russia and all of Europe. Humanity’s hope for survival is slim, and the tide of the battle rests on the shoulders of U.S. Army Ranger, Sgt. Nathan Hale. Resistance: Fall of Man draws players into a deep, frightening story that rewrites the 20th century and pits the United States and Britain against a horrific species of unknown origin. In addition to an epic single player campaign, the game features co-op, split screen multiplayer and highly customizable online gameplay. Greater processing power on PlayStation 3 and Blu-ray technology enables more immersive visual and sound effects in Resistance: Fall of Man, heightening the chaos of large-scale warfare. Insomniac Games has combined its passion for creating exotic weapons and vehicles with a proprietary physics system to create a unique human and alien arsenal. [SCEA]

Resistance 2=87

Resistance 2 Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/resistance-2

After a valiant struggle to stop the Chimera invasion in Europe, mankind must make its last stand on the shores of the United States. Resistance 2 places players in the heroic role of Sgt. Nathan Hale as he struggles against overwhelming odds to defend mankind from the unstoppable Chimera. While wrestling with this insidious war machine, Hale must also battle the virus raging inside of his own body that threatens to transform him into the very creatures he fights against. Powered by Insomniac Games' third-generation PS3 technology, Resistance 2 features a stand-alone eight-player, class-based online co-op campaign (up to 8 players) and 60-player online competitive multiplayer. An epic single-player campaign features a new weapons arsenal to combat giant boss encounters that increase the scale of the conflict to new heights. And players enjoy a new level of community support. [SCEA]

Uncharted=88

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/uncharted-drakes-fortune

A 400-year-old clue in the coffin of Sir Francis Drake sets a modern-day fortune hunter on an exploration for the fabled treasure of El Dorado, leading to the discovery of a forgotten island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. The search turns deadly when Nathan Drake becomes stranded on the island and hunted by mercenaries. Outnumbered and outgunned, Drake and his companions must fight to survive as they begin to unravel the terrible secrets hidden on the Island. Using maps and ancient artifacts, uncover clues and unravel mysteries to find a forgotten island and a treasure that was thought to have never existed. Explore exotic locations. Traverse through living jungles and spectacular 400-year-old ruins. Drake's companions and allies play an important role in the adventure through cooperative mechanics, gun play and exploration. Experience fast-paced gunplay: use a variety of environmental elements for cover, shoot enemies off of moving vehicles in high speed chases and more. Use an array of hand-to-hand fighting moves to put your enemy off balance. Anything from wild haymaker punches to running drop-kicks. Naughty Dog's advanced animation techniques allow Nathan to switch seamlessly between movements and achieve a whole new level of believability in gameplay. Nathan can reload his weapon while dodging bullets and find cover behind a wall, all in one smooth natural motion. [SCEA]

Uncharted 2=96 (ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATED GAMES EVER.)

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/uncharted-2-among-thieves

Fortune hunter Nathan Drake returns in Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, a third-person action-adventure/shooter created by award-winning developer Naughty Dog. Down on his luck, Drake is lured back into the treacherous world of thieves and mercenary treasure-seekers he had sought to leave behind. When a mysterious artifact propels Drake on an expedition to find the legendary Himalayan valley of Shambhala, he finds himself embroiled in a dangerous game of cat-and-mouse against a fugitive war criminal who’s after more than just the fabled riches of the lost city. Caught in a web of deception and plunged into an increasingly deadly pursuit that tests the limits of his endurance, Drake will be forced to risk everything - but has his luck finally run out? [SCEA]

inFamous=85

inFamous Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/infamous

A massive explosion rips through six square blocks of Empire City, leveling everything and everyone in its path. At the center of the blast crater a lone man stands up miraculously unharmed... gifted with incredible powers. From the creators of the award-winning Sly Cooper series, Sucker Punch brings you inFAMOUS, the first open-world action/adventure title by SCEA for the PS3. Players experience what happens when a real person suddenly starts developing super powers. Exact revenge? Protect the innocent? Maybe a little of both? These are the situations you'll face as you play inside of a richly interactive and organic living city. A place where your actions create broader reactions in the citizens and landscape around you. inFAMOUS lets you unravel an evolving mystery, experience fame and/or infamy and battle powerful, iconic villains... all the while giving you the feeling of becoming a modern day superhero. [Sony]

Twisted Metal=91

Twisted Metal: Black Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/twisted-metal-black

The original designers are back for the fifth game in the "Twisted Metal Series," THE car-combat game cruising at a FAST 60 frames per second, featuring the mysterious Calypso who once again tempts inmates from a local metal hospital to compete in a tournament of automotive mayhem.

The Show=91

MLB 10: The Show Reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/mlb-10-the-show

MLB 10 The Show NEW Features: HR Derby – The Home Run Derby and MLB All-Star Futures Game are now available during the All-Star break in our season modes and as a stand-alone experience. Catcher Calling the Game – Call pitches and play as the field general, just like Joe Mauer. Online Gameplay Improved – This year the online gameplay experience has been vastly improved and will detect and respond better to adverse network conditions along with reduced bandwidth to help the speed and flow of online gameplay. User Controlled Pick-Offs – Surprise a base runner with a quick move or lull him to sleep with our new pick-off mechanism. Custom Music, Fan Yells, and Chants – Assign music or a recording to an entire team, edit tracks to assign batter walk-up music, or record your own voice and assign it to play for the team or player during the situation of your choice. [SCEA]

**KINGOFOOTBALL** · 12-28-2010, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Twigg4075

Are you delusional? Every one of the games I bolded has sold millions of copies (every game in the franchise). No one gives a fuck about them? LMAO.

If anyone gave two cruds about them PS3 wouldn't have suffered the way it did.

The user scores and complete lack of impact on the industry speak volumes about those games.

Even Madden 10/11 sold millions and got 85+ on MetaCritic.

Compared to the GOW , Halo , COD taking turns ass raping sales records those games are not worth hyping.
Do any of those games even remotely have the sustained online communities the above franchises have ?

Angry Pigs would likely make more impact than any of the titles posted would.

**Twigg4075** · 12-28-2010, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL

If anyone gave two cruds about them PS3 wouldn't have suffered the way it did.

The user scores and complete lack of impact on the industry speak volumes about those games.

Even Madden 10/11 sold millions and got 85+ on MetaCritic.

Compared to the GOW , Halo , COD taking turns ass raping sales records those games are not worth hyping.
Do any of those games even remotely have the sustained online communities the above franchises have ?

Angry Pigs would likely make more impact than any of the titles posted would.

You are clueless. Have you ever actually checked the uses scores on Metacritic. The reason they are so low is because fanboys from either side go in and post 0 or 1/10 ratings. It;s like that with any console exclusive.

"Complete lack of impact"? Yeah, you're right, none of those games have left an impact on gaming at all.

I guess Halo or your beloved GoW haven't impacted it either?

**KINGOFOOTBALL** · 12-28-2010, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Twigg4075

You are clueless. Have you ever actually checked the uses scores on Metacritic. The reason they are so low is because fanboys from either side go in and post 0 or 1/10 ratings. It;s like that with any console exclusive.

"Complete lack of impact"? Yeah, you're right, none of those games have left an impact on gaming at all.

I guess Halo or your beloved GoW haven't impacted it either?

Again..Madden 10/11 had 85s as well.

You still didnt answer the question. Did or do any of those games have the online communities the games I mentioned had ? I really dont know , i dont think the numbers begin to compare.

Its like comparing a Palm Pre to iPhone 4 you cant point to a million reviews but seriously Im talking about anticipation and desire for upcoming games. You can harp all you want but those games are mostly sequels to other games that were hyped for no reason. Heck you could say KZ2 was the biggest flop this console gen. The amount of promise and hype given to it and what it actually delivered were worlds apart.
PS3 is in the position its in because most of those titles simply were enough to draw attention.

**BrntO4Life** · 12-28-2010, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL

Again..Madden 10/11 had 85s as well.

You still didnt answer the question. Did or do any of those games have the online communities the games I mentioned had ? I really dont know , i dont think the numbers begin to compare.

Its like comparing a Palm Pre to iPhone 4 you cant point to a million reviews but seriously Im talking about anticipation and desire for upcoming games. You can harp all you want but those games are mostly sequels to other games that were hyped for no reason. Heck you could say KZ2 was the biggest flop this console gen. The amount of promise and hype given to it and what it actually delivered were worlds apart.
PS3 is in the position its in because most of those titles simply were enough to draw attention.

Because Barney's Great Adventure (1998) grossed more money than Moon (2009), does it make it a better movie?

**leaffan** · 12-28-2010, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL

Again..Madden 10/11 had 85s as well.

You still didnt answer the question. Did or do any of those games have the online communities the games I mentioned had ? I really dont know , i dont think the numbers begin to compare.

Its like comparing a Palm Pre to iPhone 4 you cant point to a million reviews but seriously Im talking about anticipation and desire for upcoming games. You can harp all you want but those games are mostly sequels to other games that were hyped for no reason. Heck you could say KZ2 was the biggest flop this console gen. The amount of promise and hype given to it and what it actually delivered were worlds apart.
PS3 is in the position its in because most of those titles simply were enough to draw attention.

When you said KZ2 the only thing I could think of was Dj's thread on MM with the title about KZ2 and how the trailer was real from the game. Later on we found it was just a cutscene to a fairly meh game.

lol @ that list btw. Most of them are fairly mediocre titles that were hyped by starved PS3 gamers (resistance lol). The only worthy upcoming games on that list are infamous 2 socom 4 and uncharted 3.

**BrntO4Life** · 12-28-2010, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by leaffan

When you said KZ2 the only thing I could think of was Dj's thread on MM with the title about KZ2 and how the trailer was real from the game. Later on we found it was just a cutscene to a fairly meh game.

lol @ that list btw. Most of them are fairly mediocre titles that were hyped by starved PS3 gamers (resistance lol). The only worthy upcoming games on that list are infamous 2 socom 4 and uncharted 3.

As a 360 gamer, I wish we were getting LBP2, KZ3, and Twisted Metal (along with the 3 you mentioned).

I think Killzone doesn't get enough credit for being an upper-echelon FPS. I only played a little of KZ2 at a friend's house, but it was gorgeous and I certainly enjoyed it more than CoD.

**leaffan** · 12-28-2010, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by BrntO4Life

As a 360 gamer, I wish we were getting LBP2, KZ3, and Twisted Metal (along with the 3 you mentioned).

I think Killzone doesn't get enough credit for being an upper-echelon FPS. I only played a little of KZ2 at a friend's house, but it was gorgeous and I certainly enjoyed it more than CoD.

Little Big Planet was stupid as fuck imo.

Twisted Metal though I missed and should be included. I used to play that shit back in the day on my PS1. That game and Gran Turismo 2 were the reason my PS1 went in for its second laser replacement.

Killzone didn't impress me but I'm over critical of FPSs these days.

**BrntO4Life** · 12-28-2010, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by leaffan

Little Big Planet was stupid as fuck imo.

Twisted Metal though I missed and should be included. I used to play that shit back in the day on my PS1. That game and Gran Turismo 2 were the reason my PS1 went in for its second laser replacement.

Killzone didn't impress me but I'm over critical of FPSs these days.

Didn't play the first LBP, but the amount of freedom Media Molecule has put into their creation engine is pretty damn impressive for #2. But if platformers aren't really your thing, that's that I guess.

As for Killzone, which FPS games do it better? I really like BFBC2, but other than that I have a hard time coming up with any.

**Twigg4075** · 12-28-2010, 07:11 PM

Killzone 2 is/was a fucking awesome game. The online is great too.

LBP is in a fucking league of it's own as far as the creation aspect is concerned. And LBP2 is going to shit all over the original.

Microsoft: "2011 is all about Kinect"

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