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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    Originally posted by BrntO4Life
    I actually had much more success with the zone read in NCAA 11 compared to previous titles.

    I would estimate it worked around 25-35% of the time, when that number should be closer to 50%. They're getting there.
    Zoneread and options were feast or famine. It either got killed for a loss or went for a big gain because you caught the defense asleep. There was no middle ground at all.

    Also, the defense blitzing 99% of the time needs to be fixed as well. I shouldn't need to go into coaching sliders before each game and tone down the defensive agressiveness so I'm not seeing jailbreak blitzes on practically every first down play.

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    • spiker
      Beast mode
      • Apr 2011
      • 1625

      Originally posted by FirstTimer
      Also, the defense blitzing 99% of the time needs to be fixed as well. I shouldn't need to go into coaching sliders before each game and tone down the defensive agressiveness so I'm not seeing jailbreak blitzes on practically every first down play.
      Don't forget the psychic defense. The same defense EA denies is coded into the game.

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      • BrntO4Life
        My Aunt Ida Smokes.
        • Mar 2009
        • 6866

        Originally posted by FirstTimer
        Zoneread and options were feast or famine. It either got killed for a loss or went for a big gain because you caught the defense asleep. There was no middle ground at all.

        Also, the defense blitzing 99% of the time needs to be fixed as well. I shouldn't need to go into coaching sliders before each game and tone down the defensive agressiveness so I'm not seeing jailbreak blitzes on practically every first down play.
        I must have been playing a different game or had good sliders. I could get a consistent 4-5 yards at times with the zone read.

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        • Nevermind
          Pewter
          • Oct 2008
          • 976

          I am with FirstTimer I hate to see people going wild for these little updates such as Bevo and the duck riding in on the motorcycle. That stuff is only cool if it comes with some great gameplay.

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          • FirstTimer
            Freeman Error

            • Feb 2009
            • 18729

            Originally posted by BrntO4Life
            I must have been playing a different game or had good sliders. I could get a consistent 4-5 yards at times with the zone read.
            I had the best gameplay experience I have had in years from this game. Had tremendous sliders and the zoneread was feast or famine all day...and the feast was mainly due to the fact that I may have had a fast QB. Using anything less than a VY type QB was pointless to even try and run it with.

            The triple option was useless.

            Originally posted by Nevermind
            I am with FirstTimer I hate to see people going wild for these little updates such as Bevo and the duck riding in on the motorcycle. That stuff is only cool if it comes with some great gameplay.
            Plus they better fix recruiting and player rating generation in dynasty.

            Plus tuner sets were fucking lame. You'd get a gorgeous set of sliders they'd relese a tuner set and your sliders would instantly become fucked and you'd have to go back and try and tweak to a new set to get the gameplay right.

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            • BrntO4Life
              My Aunt Ida Smokes.
              • Mar 2009
              • 6866

              Originally posted by FirstTimer
              Plus tuner sets were fucking lame. You'd get a gorgeous set of sliders they'd relese a tuner set and your sliders would instantly become fucked and you'd have to go back and try and tweak to a new set to get the gameplay right.
              If you get the game to play well, stop downloading the tuner sets. They aren't required.

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              • ryne candy
                Aggie C/O '01
                • Feb 2009
                • 4355

                Originally posted by Nevermind
                I am with FirstTimer I hate to see people going wild for these little updates such as Bevo and the duck riding in on the motorcycle. That stuff is only cool if it comes with some great gameplay.
                and I agree with this but let that time come...they aren't going to release their load day 1 (hell even 2-3wks). If nothing is improved gameplay wise, they deserve to get all the hate toward them but right now we can only hope that there is more to come. Some people sound since they didn't release gameplay day 1 (of announcement) that the game must suck and be NCAA 11.2. You can't hate on people for getting excited when you think there is nothing more to come....let that day come and go and then hate. :hammer:

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                • spiker
                  Beast mode
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1625

                  I'm hating because of my previous experience with EA. I know other stuff is coming out but I'm not going to lie to myself and say the gameplay will significantly change for the better. It hasn't changed signicantly from year to year for the past 5 years, why would it now?

                  I'm not slamming them for announcing the new tackling system but you better believe I will if it turns the game into NCAA Blitz 12.

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                  • BrntO4Life
                    My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6866

                    Originally posted by spiker
                    I'm hating because of my previous experience with EA. I know other stuff is coming out but I'm not going to lie to myself and say the gameplay will significantly change for the better. It hasn't changed signicantly from year to year for the past 5 years, why would it now?
                    Then you haven't been playing. NCAA 09-11 is night and day.

                    Perfect? No way in hell. But it's exponentially better.

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                    • Nevermind
                      Pewter
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 976

                      Originally posted by ryne candy
                      and I agree with this but let that time come...they aren't going to release their load day 1 (hell even 2-3wks). If nothing is improved gameplay wise, they deserve to get all the hate toward them but right now we can only hope that there is more to come. Some people sound since they didn't release gameplay day 1 (of announcement) that the game must suck and be NCAA 11.2. You can't hate on people for getting excited when you think there is nothing more to come....let that day come and go and then hate. :hammer:
                      Yeah I am still hoping that we will get some good info on gameplay at somepoint and understand that we won't get it all at once but I guess it just sucks to see quite a few people that are already sold on the game just because of some presentation updates. Kind of just lets EA know that they can get a lot of people hyped on small presentation upgrades like that.

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                      • BrntO4Life
                        My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6866

                        Originally posted by Nevermind
                        Yeah I am still hoping that we will get some good info on gameplay at somepoint and understand that we won't get it all at once but I guess it just sucks to see quite a few people that are already sold on the game just because of some presentation updates. Kind of just lets EA know that they can get a lot of people hyped on small presentation upgrades like that.
                        People are hyped right now, which was the point.

                        No one has purchased the game yet and can easily have their opinion swayed if nothing of substance is released in the coming months.

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                        • spiker
                          Beast mode
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1625

                          Originally posted by BrntO4Life
                          Then you haven't been playing. NCAA 09-11 is night and day.

                          Perfect? No way in hell. But it's exponentially better.
                          I'm not expecting perfection. I understand the nature of video games and programming and that flaws slip through the cracks. The degree of the flaws that plague this series are not minor and it appears they can't be fixed without a total overhaul. The sales as they are don't justify an overhaul of the series so we keep getting the same game every year with minor bandages.

                          NCAA 07

                          [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwLDXSeQPBE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwLDXSeQPBE[/ame]

                          NCAA 11

                          [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtN2Fkw5GIM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtN2Fkw5GIM[/ame]

                          I don't see the significant changes in gameplay. Graphically there's been some substantial change, but gameplay-wise you can tell the same engine is driving these games.

                          Also, that's just annoying to dismiss my opinions by saying I'm not playing the games. The only reason I'm so outspoken is because I have been playing the game and it's only marginally improved over the course of next gen. I'm not going around and making detailed and critical posts about Wii games I've never played because... I've never played them.

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                          • FirstTimer
                            Freeman Error

                            • Feb 2009
                            • 18729

                            Originally posted by BrntO4Life
                            If you get the game to play well, stop downloading the tuner sets. They aren't required.
                            I believe the are requried if you want to get online(d/l rosters etc) aren't they?
                            Originally posted by BrntO4Life
                            Then you haven't been playing. NCAA 09-11 is night and day.

                            Perfect? No way in hell. But it's exponentially better.
                            I would agree. The last few years have been a slow build up but NCAA played much better than even 2010 and the 2007-2009 weren't even close to 2011. Obviously there is still lots of room to grow and the engine needs to keep being fixed/tweaked but NCAA11 was the first NCAA I had bought since 2007(which I returned in a week) and there was a big reason for it.

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                            • mgoblue2290
                              Posts too much
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 7174

                              Originally posted by spiker
                              Don't forget the psychic defense. The same defense EA denies is coded into the game.
                              Yup, you play on Heisman and the whole d-line and linebackers will shift toward where you are running the ball. If you flip the play, they slide with it. I'm also 99% sure in NCAA 11 I saw defensive backs cutting before receivers even did.

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                              • kmanharris
                                Seven
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 6427

                                Everything that has been said already is a legitimate gripe but I am also in the boat of giving them the benefit of the doubt this time.

                                To go along with the all out blitzing they need to fix the defense showing they are going to all out blitz. It was easy to distinguish because all 11 guys were standing up, even the defensive linemen. Not once did I see it be a bluff all out blitz.

                                Although it is EA, I am still holding out hope based on what they accomplished last year.

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