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  • Tengo Juego
    Posts a lot
    • Jun 2009
    • 4289

    Central Michigan in the Big Ten, Southern Miss in the SEC. Houston in the Big XII.

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      Originally posted by St. Francisco
      The two that stick out to me like sore thumbs are Ball State and Marshall in the Big East...unfortunately, there's pretty much no firepower left in the non-BCS conferences to replace them with.

      The nicest thing about all of this is that I'll be able to make yearly changes to keep things nice and balanced.

      One thing I am considering is moving Penn State, Notre Dame, and West Virginia into the Big Ten, Tennessee into either the SEC or ACC, and making the Big East a nine team non-BCS conference with six independent schools. If I can completely get rid of the independents, then I can make three 16-team BCS super conferences, and eight 9-team non-BCS conference.

      Something else to consider would be two super conferences (16), two BCS conferences (12), and seven 9-team non-BCS conference with one independent school.
      West Virgina doesn't seem to fit the Big 10. Notre Dame to the Big 10 would be interesting...

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      • FirstTimer
        Freeman Error

        • Feb 2009
        • 18729

        I already know now I will have a tough time deciding what chise to run with...a realistic conference set up....or a custom one.

        TCU to the Big East still pisses me off in the "real world" one.

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        • St. Francisco
          45-35 Never Forget
          • Feb 2009
          • 4753

          Originally posted by Tengo Juego
          Central Michigan in the Big Ten, Southern Miss in the SEC. Houston in the Big XII.
          Any suggestions on who you think might be a better fit in those areas?

          Central Michigan doesn't bother me that much...they get natural rivals in Michigan and Michigan St. with the move, and they typically end up being a pretty powerful school in the game. Houston to me is a natural selection to flesh out my All-Texas Big XII south division. Southern Miss was really a "There's no one left" decision, and they join in-state schools Ole Miss and Mississippi St.

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          • Bear Pand
            RIP Indy Colts
            • Feb 2009
            • 5945

            Iowa State to Big 10 obv

            rival to Iowa, fits geographically.

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            • Bear Pand
              RIP Indy Colts
              • Feb 2009
              • 5945

              This is what I'd do. 6 12 team BCS conferences, 5 conferences with 9 teams, 3 military schools independant. I might swap some of the Big East schools with ACC ones.

              Big 10
              Purdue
              IU
              Northwestern
              Ohio St
              Mich
              MSU
              -------------
              Mizzou
              Illinois
              Wisconsin
              Iowa
              Iowa State
              Minnesota

              Big 12
              Texas
              Texas Tech
              TCU
              TexAM
              Baylor
              Colorado
              -------------
              Oklahoma
              Oklahoma St
              Kansas
              Kansas State
              Nebraska
              Utah

              Pac 10
              Oregon
              Org State
              Washington
              Wash State
              Nevada
              Boise
              ------------
              Cal
              Stanford
              USC
              UCLA
              Zona
              ASU

              ACC
              Miami
              GT
              UNC
              Duke
              Virginia
              V tech
              ----------
              FSU
              BC
              NC state
              Clemson
              Maryland
              Wake Forest

              SEC
              Florida
              Tenn
              Vandy
              Kentucky
              Georgia
              South Carolina
              --------------
              Auburn
              Miss
              Miss state
              Arkansas
              Bama
              LSU

              Big East
              Syracuse
              Penn State
              Pitt
              Rutgers
              UConn
              ECU
              --------------
              Notre Dame
              West Virginia
              Louisville
              Cincinatti
              USF
              UCF

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              • St. Francisco
                45-35 Never Forget
                • Feb 2009
                • 4753

                Originally posted by Based Pand
                This is what I'd do. 6 12 team BCS conferences, 5 conferences with 9 teams, 3 military schools independant. I might swap some of the Big East schools with ACC ones.

                Big 10
                Purdue
                IU
                Northwestern
                Ohio St
                Mich
                MSU
                -------------
                Mizzou
                Illinois
                Wisconsin
                Iowa
                Iowa State
                Minnesota

                Big 12
                Texas
                Texas Tech
                TCU
                TexAM
                Baylor
                Colorado
                -------------
                Oklahoma
                Oklahoma St
                Kansas
                Kansas State
                Nebraska
                Utah

                Pac 10
                Oregon
                Org State
                Washington
                Wash State
                Nevada
                Boise
                ------------
                Cal
                Stanford
                USC
                UCLA
                Zona
                ASU

                ACC
                Miami
                GT
                UNC
                Duke
                Virginia
                V tech
                ----------
                FSU
                BC
                NC state
                Clemson
                Maryland
                Wake Forest

                SEC
                Florida
                Tenn
                Vandy
                Kentucky
                Georgia
                South Carolina
                --------------
                Auburn
                Miss
                Miss state
                Arkansas
                Bama
                LSU

                Big East
                Syracuse
                Penn State
                Pitt
                Rutgers
                UConn
                ECU
                --------------
                Notre Dame
                West Virginia
                Louisville
                Cincinatti
                USF
                UCF

                Nice set-up Pand, but there are some geographical issues that my OCD brain just can't accept. Colorado in the Big XII South, the two Florida schools in the Big East, and I feel the Pac 12 is unbalanced with all four Cali schools in one division.

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                • St. Francisco
                  45-35 Never Forget
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 4753

                  My second draft...quite a few changes in this one as I try to balance the BCS conferences.

                  Code:
                  Pac 12
                  
                  East            West
                  
                  USC             UCLA
                  Arizona St.     Cal
                  Colorado        Stanford
                  Boise St.       Washington
                  Utah            Oregon
                  BYU             Oregon St.
                  
                  
                  
                  Mountain West
                  
                  Arizona
                  Nevada
                  Colorado St.
                  Air Force
                  Iowa St.
                  Kansas St.
                  UTEP
                  Fresno St.
                  Wyoming
                  
                  
                  
                  WAC
                  
                  Hawaii
                  San Jose St.
                  San Diego St.
                  New Mexico
                  New Mexico St.
                  Idaho
                  Utah St.
                  UNLV
                  Washington St.
                  
                  
                  
                  Big XII
                  
                  North            South
                  
                  Oklahoma         Texas
                  Oklahoma St.     Texas Tech
                  Tulsa            Texas A&M
                  Arkansas         Baylor
                  Kansas           Houston
                  Missouri         TCU
                  
                  
                  
                  SEC
                  
                  East                West
                  
                  LSU                 Florida
                  Ole Miss            Florida St.
                  Mississippi St.     USF
                  Vanderbilt          UCF
                  Alabama             Georgia
                  Auburn              Georgia Tech
                  
                  
                  
                  Deep South
                  
                  Rice
                  SMU
                  North Texas
                  La. Tech
                  Tulane
                  UL Monroe
                  UL Lafayette
                  FIU
                  FAU
                  
                  
                  
                  C-USA
                  
                  Arkansas St.
                  Memphis
                  Mid Tenn St.
                  Southern Miss
                  Troy
                  UAB
                  W. Kentucky
                  ECU
                  Wake Forest
                  
                  
                  
                  Big North
                  
                  East             West
                  
                  Ohio St.         Nebraska
                  Michigan         Iowa
                  Michigan St.     Wisconsin
                  C. Michigan      Minnesota
                  Purdue           Northwestern
                  Indiana          Illinois
                  
                  
                  
                  ACC
                  
                  North              South
                  
                  Virginia Tech      Clemson
                  Virginia           South Carolina
                  Maryland           Miami
                  Boston College     Duke
                  UConn              N. Carolina
                  Rutgers            NC State
                  
                  
                  
                  Big East
                  
                  East              West
                  
                  Penn St.          Notre Dame
                  Pitt              Tennessee
                  Syracuse          Louisville
                  Buffalo           Kentucky
                  West Virginia     Cincinnati
                  Marshall          Bowling Green
                  
                  
                  
                  MAC
                  
                  N. Illinois
                  Ball St.
                  W. Michigan
                  E. Michigan
                  Toledo
                  Akron
                  Kent St.
                  Ohio
                  Miami (OH)
                  
                  
                  
                  Independents
                  
                  Navy
                  Army
                  Temple
                  I'd like to tweak the Pac 12, so one idea I had was putting Fresno St. in the West, putting UCLA in the East with USC, then moving Colorado into the Mountain West to replace Fresno St. I'd like to have Colorado and Arizona in a BCS conference, but they really only fit in the Big XII or Pac 12, and there's no teams in those divisions that I want to swap into the Mountain West. My major issue is the the fact that there are three western conferences (Pac 12, MWC, and WAC) for a total of 30 teams, but there are really only 28 western schools, forcing me to put Iowa St. and Kansas St. when I'd rather have them in the Big XII or Big Ten.

                  Any suggestions on two western schools that I could create in teambuilder that are ready for the FBS jump?

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                  • St. Francisco
                    45-35 Never Forget
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4753

                    If I add Montana and Cal Poly to FBS, and remove Eastern Michigan and Akron, I think I can achieve a better balance. Here's the divisions that would change from my previous version (changes in bold).

                    Code:
                    Pac 12
                    
                    East            West
                    
                    USC             [b]Washington St.[/b]
                    Arizona St.     Cal
                    [b]UCLA[/b]            Stanford
                    Boise St.       Washington
                    Utah            Oregon
                    BYU             Oregon St.
                    
                    
                    
                    Mountain West
                    
                    Arizona
                    Nevada
                    Colorado St.
                    Air Force
                    UNLV
                    [b]Colorado[/b]
                    UTEP
                    Fresno St.
                    Wyoming
                    
                    
                    
                    WAC
                    
                    Hawaii
                    San Jose St.
                    San Diego St.
                    New Mexico
                    New Mexico St.
                    Idaho
                    Utah St.
                    [b]Cal Poly[/b]
                    [b]Montana[/b]
                    
                    
                    
                    Big XII
                    
                    North            South
                    
                    Oklahoma         Texas
                    Oklahoma St.     Texas Tech
                    Tulsa            Texas A&M
                    Arkansas         Baylor
                    Kansas           Houston
                    [b]Kansas St.[/b]       TCU
                    
                    
                    
                    Big North
                    
                    East             West
                    
                    Ohio St.         Nebraska
                    Michigan         Iowa
                    Michigan St.     Wisconsin
                    C. Michigan      Minnesota
                    [b]Northwestern[/b]     [b]Missouri[/b]
                    [b]Illinois[/b]         [b]Iowa St.[/b]
                    
                    
                    
                    Big East
                    
                    East              West
                    
                    Penn St.          Notre Dame
                    Pitt              Tennessee
                    Syracuse          Louisville
                    Buffalo           Kentucky
                    West Virginia     Cincinnati
                    Marshall          [b]Purdue[/b]
                    
                    
                    
                    MAC
                    
                    N. Illinois
                    Ball St.
                    W. Michigan
                    [b]Bowling Green[/b]
                    Toledo
                    [b]Indiana[/b]
                    Kent St.
                    Ohio
                    Miami (OH)
                    I'd like to bring in one more western team to replace Air Force in the Mountain West. Then Air Force could join the military schools as an independent, and Temple would be removed.

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                    • Boucher
                      King of EDM
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 3733

                      Hawaii Boise Fresno st Nevada to MWC

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                      • Sharkweather
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 8906

                        Too much time on my hands. Top 25 by my conference set-up, this should be interesting. The ACC needs a Clemson resurgence.

                        Code:
                        24. NC State            ACC
                        
                        17. Virginia Tech       Big East
                        
                        1.  Oklahoma            Big 8
                        7.  Oklahoma State      Big 8
                        16. Nebraska            Big 8
                        23. Missouri            Big 8
                        
                        6.  Ohio State          Big 10
                        11. Wisconsin           Big 10
                        15. Michigan State      Big 10
                        
                        10. Florida State       Ind
                        21. Notre Dame          Ind
                        
                        3.  Stanford            Pac-10
                        5.  Oregon              Pac-10
                        25. Arizona State       Pac-10
                        
                        2.  Alabama             SEC
                        4.  LSU                 SEC
                        12. Auburn              SEC
                        13. South Carolina      SEC
                        19. Mississippi State   SEC
                        20. Florida             SEC
                        
                        9.  Texas A&M           SWC
                        14. TCU                 SWC
                        18. Arkansas            SWC
                        22. Texas               SWC
                        
                        8.  Boise State         WAC

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                        • Sharkweather
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 8906

                          New blog.



                          Talks about scheduling logic/type and stuff for differing amount of teams in a conference, pretty interesting.

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                          • ryne candy
                            Aggie C/O '01
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 4355

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                            • St. Francisco
                              45-35 Never Forget
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4753

                              Originally posted by Sharkweather
                              New blog.



                              Talks about scheduling logic/type and stuff for differing amount of teams in a conference, pretty interesting.
                              Some interesting things I noticed:

                              "If you aren't into the neutral site thing, go ahead and set it so that the school with the best conference record hosts the game (like the PAC-12 and Conference USA do)." That's a pretty awesome addition, and would give extra incentive to not only win your division, but also finish with the best record so you can host the conference championship game.

                              "4-8 schools – 7 conference games. There are no protected rivals since everyone plays everyone else. For conferences of 4-6 schools FCS opponents will play the part of your additional conference games" WTF? FCS schools? Weak...I won't be going lower than nine teams.

                              "You can set a conference to be tied to a specific bowl, or you can set it so that the champion of a conference is guaranteed a spot in one of the BCS bowls, but not tied to a specific one (think Big East currently)." I like this addition...it will be interesting to see how the BCS assigns them to bowls if you just make every champion an auto-qualifier with no bowl tie-in.

                              Nothing was mentioned about the ability to rename a conference, so I guess that's a no-go. And even though I'd like to delete a conference, I can understand why they won't allow it...but requiring at least one independent? That's dumb.

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                              • SHOGUN
                                4 WR 1 RB 0 TE. 24/7/365.
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 11416

                                We have heard feedback regarding CPU not recruiting based on their play style, so this was one of our earliest adjustments for NCAA Football 12. Previously, if you were running an option offense, the CPU would simply take the best quarterback that was available, or possibly one just interested in the school. Now, you will find that the CPU will focus upon players that fit their particular play style. That means scrambling QBs will be targeted by option teams, while air raid teams will look for pocket passing quarterbacks.
                                Finally, we've updated the incoming ratings for all generated prospects with a focus on ensuring they are consistent with the recruits on the default roster. Now you won't notice a drop off in overall player talent in future years of the Dynasty when the players on the default roster have graduated. I think you will find that some positions, in particular Kickers and Punters, will be far more accurate this year.

                                 
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