Marlins Call up Jose Fernandez - Check your leagues waiver wire now!

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  • Goober
    Needs a hobby
    • Feb 2009
    • 12271

    Marlins Call up Jose Fernandez - Check your leagues waiver wire now!

  • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
    Highwayman
    • Feb 2009
    • 15429

    #2
    They are going to ruin this kid, aren't they?

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    • Youk
      Posts too much
      • Feb 2009
      • 7998

      #3
      Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
      They are going to ruin this kid, aren't they?
      Yes.

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      • NAHSTE
        Probably owns the site
        • Feb 2009
        • 22233

        #4
        This ... makes no sense.

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        • Mogriffjr
          aka Reece
          • Apr 2009
          • 2759

          #5
          Lol hasn't started past high A...what a dumb move but loria gonna loria...
          Originally posted by Nick Mangold
          Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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          • Woy
            RIP West
            • Dec 2008
            • 16372

            #6
            Got to see Fernandez in Hagerstown last year...think he had 10 Ks over five innings in miserable weather. Incredible talent, but like everyone else said, this makes no sense.



            ^ Shouts to MvP for the sick sig. GFX TEAM BACK

            .

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            • MVPete
              Old School
              • Mar 2008
              • 17500

              #7
              This is actually the most exciting thing going on with the Marlins this year, hopefully it doesn't hurt his future. They already have 3 guys who need a lot of work in Eovaldi, Alvarez, and Turner(sent down already). Nolasco is probably gone at the deadline.

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              • Goober
                Needs a hobby
                • Feb 2009
                • 12271

                #8
                I think you guys are underestimating this kid a little bit, he might have his struggles, but I expect an ERA below 4.50 from him this year. The move doesn't make sense from a baseball operations standpoint, but this is the best way to sell tickets. If successful he could be a bigger draw then Mike Stanton. Remember the kid is Cuban, and the Marlin's stadium is in the Cuban neighborhood in Miami. Ever since the stadium plans started, it was clear that Loria wanted to draw in the Cuban market. This is the best way to do it.

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                • MVPete
                  Old School
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 17500

                  #9

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                  • Goober
                    Needs a hobby
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 12271

                    #10
                    Bump.

                    Warner only commented on this in chatbox but he said that fantasy owners should trade Fernandez now (before season starts) because his value will never be higher; predicting that Fernandez would be sent back to AAA with a high 4 ERA by May.

                    Well it's June 14th. Fernandez has made 13 starts. 3.11 ERA, 9.58 K/9, 3.36 BB/9, 0.75 HR/9. He just dominated the best team in baseball with a 7 IP, 10 K, 2 ER performance.

                    Also lol at warner offering me Houston Street for Jose Fernandez in the keeper league.

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                    • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                      Highwayman
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 15429

                      #11
                      He has been the stud that most predicting...but he's being a stud on the worst team in baseball as a 20 year old...I fear for his shoulder.

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                      • EmpireWF
                        Giants in the Super Bowl
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 24082

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                        He has been the stud that most predicting...but he's being a stud on the worst team in baseball as a 20 year old...I fear for his shoulder.
                        Has Loria talked about an innings limit at all, publicly?

                        At the moment, Fernandez is about 1/2 the way to the 140 IP he had last year, so you figure 180 is a decent projection...if they are planning a limit.


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                        • NAHSTE
                          Probably owns the site
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 22233

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                          He has been the stud that most predicting...but he's being a stud on the worst team in baseball as a 20 year old...I fear for his shoulder.
                          This is kind of a cold way to look at this ... but why should the Marlins give two fucks about his shoulder? There is a really good chance that in 6 years he is either too expensive for them to keep and thus trade bait, or has already sustained a major arm injury anyway.

                          Just the nature of the beast, pitchers get hurt. Even the ones who are "handled" properly will get hurt. I'm starting to think the best method for a team is to just ride their young starters until the wheels fall off, then let them walk when their arb years are done. Give no fucks about protecting the longterm investment, because that's not the way pitchers' career arcs work, nor is it how the salary structure in baseball operates.

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                          • Slateman
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2777

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NAHSTE
                            This is kind of a cold way to look at this ... but why should the Marlins give two fucks about his shoulder? There is a really good chance that in 6 years he is either too expensive for them to keep and thus trade bait, or has already sustained a major arm injury anyway.

                            Just the nature of the beast, pitchers get hurt. Even the ones who are "handled" properly will get hurt. I'm starting to think the best method for a team is to just ride their young starters until the wheels fall off, then let them walk when their arb years are done. Give no fucks about protecting the longterm investment, because that's not the way pitchers' career arcs work, nor is it how the salary structure in baseball operates.
                            Trade value is exactly why they will want to put him on an innings limit. They're not going to trade him this year. Most likely next year and 2015 will be his most valuable trade window. He'll be quite good by then, and still have an affordable contract. They need to keep him healthy until they can trade him.
                            The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                            As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                            If only I had died instead of you
                            O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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                            • Goober
                              Needs a hobby
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 12271

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Slateman
                              Trade value is exactly why they will want to put him on an innings limit. They're not going to trade him this year. Most likely next year and 2015 will be his most valuable trade window. He'll be quite good by then, and still have an affordable contract. They need to keep him healthy until they can trade him.
                              So you're suggesting that the Marlins sole purpose for existing is to trade ML talent now.

                              While Miami very well could trade Fernandez one day, optimizing the return of that trade certainly isn't their number one priority at the moment.

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