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  • Senser81
    VSN Poster of the Year
    • Feb 2009
    • 12804

    #46
    Originally posted by JTW
    It does make sense. Records and fairness doesn't matter to the bowls. The only thing that matters...
    Tru dat.

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    • BUCK3YE5
      CP 2K12
      • Aug 2009
      • 1410

      #47
      Originally posted by Woy
      LOL @ Cincy getting an AP National Championship. God, you're a fucking idiot.
      key word is "should" dipshit of course they wouldnt get one. your the fucking idiot talkin like "PSU is in the BCS and if you think otherwise then fuck you".

      Did you really think the BCS was gonna take PSU over Iowa, when Iowa is ranked higher AND won the head to head? Yes the BCS wants $ but they would have taken a TON of heat for that, which they cant exactly afford right now.

      YOU are the fucking idiot.

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      • padman59
        Slayer of Demons
        • Mar 2009
        • 5709

        #48
        Originally posted by BUCK3YE5
        Guess who was right all along? PSU did NOT make the BCS, as I guaranteed. Now they are gonna get their quantam singularity kicked by LSU.

        I think all the bcs games are good. If Bama/Texas is sloppy and Cincy beats UF in a good fashion, Cincy should get an AP National Championship
        How does that make sense? How can you say that Cincy is better than the other two undefeated teams in that scenario?

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        • Woy
          RIP West
          • Dec 2008
          • 16372

          #49
          Originally posted by BUCK3YE5
          key word is "should" dipshit of course they wouldnt get one. your the fucking idiot talkin like "PSU is in the BCS and if you think otherwise then fuck you".

          Did you really think the BCS was gonna take PSU over Iowa, when Iowa is ranked higher AND won the head to head? Yes the BCS wants $ but they would have taken a TON of heat for that, which they cant exactly afford right now.

          YOU are the fucking idiot.
          You realize the same damn thing happened in 2007, right?

          And the entire site thinks you're a fucking idiot, I'm surprised you haven't seen that yet.



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          • FirstTimer
            Freeman Error

            • Feb 2009
            • 18729

            #50
            Originally posted by Archer
            Fiesta took TCU because Cincys fans put on a bad showing at the 2009 Orange Bowl v VT

            Orange didn't want Cincy again obviously , Orange also said expecting Boise to come that distance and still bring alot of people wasn't realistic a few weeks back . PLUS , Iowa hold the Orange Bowl record for bringing something like 50,000 fans .

            Fiesta bowl didn't want to touch Cincy (same problem as before) and have a history with Boise so it was a safer bet in terms of fans showing up

            Sugar left with Cincy
            Plus the Fiesta taking TCU helps them with the Regional deal as they usually have the Big 12 tie in. No other Big 12 team was worth inviting s they take a team from the Big 12 Region assuring a huge turn out by TCU fans who only have to travel 2 states over for the game.

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            • Woy
              RIP West
              • Dec 2008
              • 16372

              #51
              Very interesting spin on this from another site I post at. Another article from Blue and White Illustrated, but don't pay attention to the Iowa/Penn State debate. Focus on the boldface print.

              It would seem the financial impact of Penn State in the Orange Bowl is greater than Iowa. Plus the TV ratings for the game should be better. What do you think went into the selection of Iowa for the Orange Bowl.

              This was one of the most unusual bowl situations that I have experienced over the past 25 years relative to Penn State.

              Almost on a daily basis, the scenarios for both the Fiesta and Orange Bowls changed.

              Going into Saturday's conference championship games, all of the commentary relating to Iowa and Penn State in relationship to the Orange and Fiesta Bowls clearly indicated that one of those two teams would receive a bid. Then, early Sunday morning following Saturday's games, it became evident after speaking with a Fiesta Bowl rep that there was a lot of politics being played behind the scenes and for whatever reason, it became clear that the Fiesta Bowl was going to end up selecting Boise and TCU.

              Ratings and attendance-wise, to me, that selection doesn't make much sense. It's a rematch of last year's Poinsettia Bowl, where half the stadium was empty and the rating was only like a 3.7.

              If you listen to the bowl representatives and they're being 100 percent up front with what they're saying, the head-to-head between Penn State and Iowa was one of the least things they considered relative to their decision.

              Maybe the fact that this is the last year FOX carries the BCS bowls, what I was told late yesterday afternoon was that they have no incentive to bump the ratings up for a competing network in ESPN when they take over the BCS coverage in 2010.

              I understand your confusion because it appears both financially and TV-ratings wise, except for the championship game and possibly the Rose Bowl, I don't think the projected ratings especially for the Fiesta and Orange Bowls look very good with the match-ups that have been made.



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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18729

                #52
                Originally posted by Woy
                Very interesting spin on this from another site I post at. Another article from Blue and White Illustrated, but don't pay attention to the Iowa/Penn State debate. Focus on the boldface print.
                Maybe neither team and the public didn't care because it was the Poinsettia Bowl? LOL at comparing the Poinsettia Bowl to the Fiesta Bowl. That stadium will be sold out and people will watch it.

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                • Woy
                  RIP West
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 16372

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Firsttimer
                  Maybe neither team and the public didn't care because it was the Poinsettia Bowl? LOL at comparing the Poinsettia Bowl to the Fiesta Bowl. That stadium will be sold out and people will watch it.
                  Eh, maybe I shouldn't have bolded that part. Focus on the second part of that.

                  It does bring up an interesting debate on whether Fox gives two shits about their ratings because of the switch to ESPN next year.



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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Woy
                    Eh, maybe I shouldn't have bolded that part. Focus on the second part of that.

                    It does bring up an interesting debate on whether Fox gives two shits about their ratings because of the switch to ESPN next year.
                    Except for the fact that Fox doesn't choose the bowl matchups. The individual bowl committees do. Why would the Fiesta Bowl purposefully submarine their own bowl? This column doesn't make any sense. It just sounds like the rants of a pissed off/jilted Penn State fan.

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                    • Archer
                      Go the fuck outside
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 15303

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Firsttimer
                      Maybe neither team and the public didn't care because it was the Poinsettia Bowl? LOL at comparing the Poinsettia Bowl to the Fiesta Bowl. That stadium will be sold out and people will watch it.
                      This

                      The San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl doesn't sound all that inviting to me

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                      • Woy
                        RIP West
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 16372

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Firsttimer
                        Except for the fact that Fox doesn't choose the bowl matchups. The individual bowl committees do. Why would the Fiesta Bowl purposefully submarine their own bowl? This column doesn't make any sense. It just sounds like the rants of a pissed off/jilted Penn State fan.
                        Maybe so, I just thought it was interesting.

                        Carry on.



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                        • FirstTimer
                          Freeman Error

                          • Feb 2009
                          • 18729

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Senser81
                          How exactly did it go with the bowl pick order?

                          National Championship: 1 vs 2 in the BCS: Alabama vs Texas (Auto bids)

                          Rose Bowl(as there was no B10 or P10 team in the NC game): OhSt vs Oregon(auto bids)

                          Orange Bowl auto bid to Tech.

                          Now since the Sugar lost the SEC Champ and the #1 team they get first replacement pick. They take Florida.

                          The Fiesta gets to replace Texas then and take TCU.

                          Now the bowls select the teams in order of which they play closest to the game. This year the order is: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar.

                          Orange picks their open slot. They take Iowa as an at large.

                          Orange Bowl is GTech vs Iowa.

                          Fiesta selects next.

                          They can choose from: Cincy, Boise St, Va Tech, and BYU. Cincy doesn't travel well. Tech has 3 losses and BYU well yeah..no chance. The Fiesta has a history with Boise St from the Oklahoma game so they take Boise St.

                          Fiesta Bowl: TCU vs Boise St.

                          The Sugar "selects" next but must take Cincy as Cincy has an auto bid to a BCS game as the winner of the Big East.

                          Sugar Bowl: Florida vs Cincy.

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                          • BUCK3YE5
                            CP 2K12
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1410

                            #58
                            Originally posted by padman59
                            How does that make sense? How can you say that Cincy is better than the other two undefeated teams in that scenario?
                            If the BCS took TCU or Boise seriously they would have been selected earlier, therefore not playing eachother

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                            • mcstl25
                              M-Castle
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2434

                              #59
                              What a boring bowl schedule. Someone wake me once college football gets a playoffs system.

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                              • FirstTimer
                                Freeman Error

                                • Feb 2009
                                • 18729

                                #60
                                Originally posted by BUCK3YE5
                                If the BCS took TCU or Boise seriously they would have been selected earlier, therefore not playing eachother
                                How many more times do we have to cover this......the BCS did not select what teams played in what bowl. The individual bowl committees did.

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