Did Green Bay get jobbed?

[JMeist]

Yeah, I'm not upset with the officiating so much as I am the pathetic defense. If the Packers wanted to win, how about making the cards punt more than once? If the Packers cannot put pressure on the elite quarterbacks they will pick apart their secondary but throwing against the zone that Jarrett Bush and Brandon Underwood are in. You really think Steve Breaston and Early Doucet are that good? Please...You can thank Kurt Warner for being a hell of a qb and picking apart the weakness of the Packers: Jarrett Bush and Brandon Underwood.

[Tailback U]

The officiating was bad. No doubt. But they could have gotten past it. It seemed every time Fitzgerald caught a pass it was after he threw Woodson to the ground. I don't know how that was never called. Saw it on both his TD catches.

And when it comes to the end of the game, I was more mad about the blatant helmet to helmet late hit on Rodgers by Bertrand Berry. That's a penalty every time. I didn't understand that no call.

The Packers had no business winning that game given how awful the defense played. But you can't argue against how bad the officiating was.

Agreed. Officiating was equally bad for both teams.

[Senser81]

Agreed. Officiating was equally bad for both teams.

How do you figure?

[Tailback U]

How do you figure?

Missed calls on both sides of the ball for both teams on a number of plays.

[Senser81]

Missed calls on both sides of the ball for both teams on a number of plays.

Wow. Thats about as insightful as Rasheed Wallace saying "Both teams played hard".

[Tailback U]

Wow. Thats about as insightful as Rasheed Wallace saying "Both teams played hard".

Unfortunately, I left my "penalties missed" graph sheet at home otherwise I'd break down each and every missed call on both sides of the ball for each team for you.

The missed calls go both ways, everyone knows this. Whining about missed calls and acting like one team got away with way more penalties is a waste of oxygen because it's literally impossible to prove.

[Senser81]

Unfortunately, I left my "penalties missed" graph sheet at home otherwise I'd break down each every missed call on both sides of the ball for each team for you.

Thats nice. I'm sure its hard to remember some of the bad calls because the game took place so long ago.

I remember Fitzgerald pushing Woodson down on one of his TD catches. I remember Fitzgerald pushing Woodson down again on his other TD catch, and on the same play I remember Lutui tackling Kris Jenkins into Kurt Warner which somehow resulted in a personal foul on Jenkins for hitting Warner in the head. This was ironic, because on 2 of the final 3 plays of the game Aaron Rodgers got hit in the head and no flags were thrown. The only bad call I remember going against Arizona was a phantom PI called on Michael Adams for guarding Greg Jennings.

[MrBill]

The major bad call that stuck in my mind for the Cardinals was the phantom horse collar on Ryan Grant that gave the Packers a critical first down. The Cardinals defender did have his hand on the top of the shoulder pads but never exerted any backwards pressure on Grant, which is supposed to be the big thing in the "Roy Williams" rule. The one on Aaron Rodgers was borderline but did result in him being tugged backwards a little so it met the requirements of the penalty. There were a few blatant holding calls missed but that seemed to be pretty consistent on both sides of the ball.

[Champ]

Lets not forget that the Cards missed the game winning FG at the end of the 4th. If that happened then we wouldnt be having this convo. Packers did it to themselves, they were given another opportunity.

[Tailback U]

Thats nice. I'm sure its hard to remember some of the bad calls because the game took place so long ago.

I remember Fitzgerald pushing Woodson down on one of his TD catches. I remember Fitzgerald pushing Woodson down again on his other TD catch, and on the same play I remember Lutui tackling Kris Jenkins into Kurt Warner which somehow resulted in a personal foul on Jenkins for hitting Warner in the head. This was ironic, because on 2 of the final 3 plays of the game Aaron Rodgers got hit in the head and no flags were thrown. The only bad call I remember going against Arizona was a phantom PI called on Michael Adams for guarding Greg Jennings.

Fitzgerald didn't push off Woodson on his first TD catch. Watch the replay here: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...als-highlights. It's at 2:30. Fitz doesn't have either of his hands on Woodson, he is just running his route and Woodson falls down as his cushion breaks.

I'll give you offensive PI on Fitz on his 2nd TD. He just ran right over Woodson.

I saw Darnell Docket, and other Cardinal DL, held a number of times. Definitely got held on Spencer Havner's TD (at 7:40) and definitely got held at 3:56 of the link I provided on Finley's 45 yard catch and run that took the Packers to the Cards 1 yard line.

Saw a Packers player (#50-something, played DEnd on the play) get away with clipping on the fumble return after Fitz was stripped by Woodson and recovered by Matthews that would have nullified the 40 yard fumble return.

Saw the CB get away with PI on Breaston's 1 arm catch down the sidelne.

Add these to the Ryan Grant horse collar, the phantom PI on Mike Adams.

This was all seen in the 10 min highlight video. If I went through the entire game this list would probably be 5 times longer.

Like I said, this shit goes both ways.

[Senser81]

Fitzgerald didn't push off Woodson on his first TD catch. Watch the replay here: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...als-highlights. It's at 2:30. Fitz doesn't have either of his hands on Woodson, he is just running his route and Woodson falls down as his cushion breaks.

Video starts in 21 SECONDS!!!!!!!

[MrBill]

Lets not forget that the Cards missed the game winning FG at the end of the 4th. If that happened then we wouldnt be having this convo. Packers did it to themselves, they were given another opportunity.

The Packers offense didn't do anything to help their team out until almost halftime. If Woodson had not stripped Fitzgerald of that ball inside the redzone, it likely would have been 24-0 instead of 17-7 and I don't know that the comeback would have ever been mounted.

Rodgers could have ended the game on the first play of OT but missed a wide open Jennings so the Packers had their chances even after the botched FG that should have won it for the Cardinals at the end of regulation.

[Rush]

If there's an incorrect ruling or something to that effect, I can understand someone bitching.

But pissing and moaning over a missed penalty is lame as fuck. I'm sure if you reviewed the entire game tape you could find plenty of missed calls that would have altered the game in all sorts of fucked up ways.

Penalties are called and missed.....and that's part of the game.

While I agree wholeheartedly with your post, when it is the last play of the game and decides who moves on in the playoffs, you HAVE to get that call right. Especially when it's as obvious as a facemask.

[Tailback U]

While I agree wholeheartedly with your post, when it is the last play of the game and decides who moves on in the playoffs, you HAVE to get that call right. Especially when it's as obvious as a facemask.

It was 1 finger, and the ball was out before the finger hook.

[Senser81]

Fitzgerald didn't push off Woodson on his first TD catch. Watch the replay here: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...als-highlights. It's at 2:30. Fitz doesn't have either of his hands on Woodson, he is just running his route and Woodson falls down as his cushion breaks.

I'll give you offensive PI on Fitz on his 2nd TD. He just ran right over Woodson.

I saw Darnell Docket, and other Cardinal DL, held a number of times. Definitely got held on Spencer Havner's TD (at 7:40) and definitely got held at 3:56 of the link I provided on Finley's 45 yard catch and run that took the Packers to the Cards 1 yard line.

Saw a Packers player (#50-something, played DEnd on the play) get away with clipping on the fumble return after Fitz was stripped by Woodson and recovered by Matthews that would have nullified the 40 yard fumble return.

Saw the CB get away with PI on Breaston's 1 arm catch down the sidelne.

Add these to the Ryan Grant horse collar, the phantom PI on Mike Adams.

This was all seen in the 10 min highlight video. If I went through the entire game this list would probably be 5 times longer.

Like I said, this shit goes both ways.

I can't disagree with anything you said, other than to say go to 8:52 of the video and watch the distraught Cardinal mascot standing to the left of the goal-post support. He covers his eyes, sags his knees, and bangs his head on the ground. Boo Rackers!