The AFC South....

[FirstTimer]

Schaub has a bottom 3 defense supporting him and his team loses games. That doesn't mean he didn't have a great year.

NO ONE IS SAYING SCHAUB DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT SEASON.

Fuck.

Seriously.

Can we ban people with two digit IQ's from the NFL section?

Matt Schaub is not a great QB.

Think about that.

[Houston]

Manning, Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Rodgers, Favre - you know, quarterbacks that have actually made the playoffs in their careers.

Well that's the difference, you dwell in the past too much when you talk about who's good and who's not.


Schaub had a better season then Rogers, Rivers, and Roethlisberger so as of now I'm saying he's a better QB then they are.

Andre Johnson hasn't made the playoffs. Terrel Owens, Chad Johnson, and Steve Smith have.

So you're telling me that right now this instance you'd take those guys over Johnson?

[NAHSTE]

LOL at this thread. So um...Someone says Schaub is a great QB (ala Peyton Manning), logically, people take issue with this, except for 2 people (one of which is an idiot).

And now they backtrack and say they never said Schaub was a great QB? Classic.

however I never called Schuab great, comparable to Manning, one of the best, or anything like that.

So you just posted a page's worth of rebuttals for the sake of posting? Sums up your career at VSN quite nicely.

[FirstTimer]

Or you know.......you took my Ice Cube gif too seriously....

Or you are a complete retard?...and are now backpedaling once you got called out.

[Argath]

No. He was a QB who had a great season. One great season does NOT make a QB great. QB's who are not "great" can put up very good or great seasons.

try to wrap your head around that simple concept.

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same goes for TEs

[Houston]

NO ONE IS SAYING SCHAUB DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT SEASON.

Fuck.

Seriously.

Can we ban people with two digit IQ's from the NFL section?

Matt Schaub is not a great QB.

Think about that.

And no one said Schaub is as good as Peyton Manning, you're still putting words into our mouths.

All we are saying is that Schaub just had one of the best seasons this year among QBs.

Maybe he's not great(oh fuck, did you forget I never called him "great") but you're talking as if he's a scrub who shouldn't be mentioned when talking about the best in the LG now.

[Goober]

Rodgers led his team to 6-10 in his first full year starting (Had a great year himself, but the team sucked; horrible defense). The Packers defense became fantastic upon switching schemes, Rodgers kept it up, and they went to the playoffs, because both sides of the ball did their part.

Schaub has a horrible defense supporting him and his team loses games. That doesn't mean he didn't have a great year.

The Texans defense was ranked 13th in the NFL last year.

The Saints defense was 25th.

[Houston]

And now they backtrack and say they never said Schaub was a great QB? Classic.

Please quote where I said Schaub was a great QB.


Oh yeah, and if you don't like it then groan this post and go make a thread in the locker room complaining about how I'm back and you want me banned.

Hell if I care

[FirstTimer]

Well that's the difference, you dwell in the past too much when you talk about who's good and who's not.

No. The discussion is about who is GREAT. Not a good player. It's about who is being labeled as a GREAT player.

Schaub had a better season then Rogers, Rivers

No and no.

Rivers threw for only one less TD, less INT's, and had a higher rating. He also made the playoffs.

Rodgers: More TD's, less Int's, higher rating and made the playoffs.

They also both made the Pro Bowl.

You're a fool.

Roethlisberger

...................I'm not even going to start. I will LOL if you seriously tell me that you'd rather have Matt Schaub then Big Ben.

[FirstTimer]

Maybe he's not great(oh fuck, did you forget I never called him "great") but you're talking as if he's a scrub who shouldn't be mentioned when talking about the best in the LG now.

Actually. I'm not.

Show me where I said anything of the sort.

[NAHSTE]

you're talking as if he's a scrub who shouldn't be mentioned when talking about the best in the LG now.

Pretty sure we're just talking as if he's not as good as the league's "great" QBs (aka, Peyton Manning)

He's a decent QB, better than average, but to call him "Great" is an overstatement of the highest order.

Better than average =/= scrub

And for the record, no he shouldn't be mentioned when talking about the best in the league right now (aka, Peyton Manning, again).

You see how easy this is? Great = Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady....Schaub = not as good as these players, therefore, not great.

[bcransom]

No. He was a QB who had a great season. One great season does NOT make a QB great. QB's who are not "great" can put up very good or great seasons.

try to wrap your head around that simple concept.




Yes....because he is currently NOT A GREAT QB.

How does that make any sense at all?

So a great QB to you can't ever be called great until he repeats a time or two. Fine. Understand it's subjective and fucking calm down, Jesus Christ.

[Houston]

Actually. I'm not.

Show me where I said anything of the sort.

Sure, as soon as you show me where I said Schaub was great.

Pretty sure we're just talking as if he's not as good as the league's "great" QBs (aka, Peyton Manning)



Better than average =/= scrub

And for the record, no he shouldn't be mentioned when talking about the best in the league right now (aka, Peyton Manning, again).

You see how easy this is? Great = Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady....Schaub= not as good as these players, therefore, not great.

eh for like the 5th time now. Show me where I said Schaub was great?




Jesus I didn't realize it was that time of the month

[FirstTimer]

How does that make any sense at all?

It makes sense to everyone here...except for you.

How does it NOT make sense? I explained to you how it does.

So a great QB to you can't ever be called great until he repeats a time or two.

More than a time or two. Consistent great seasons=greatness. That's the entire idea behind being "great". A player isn't "great" because he has a "great" season. He's great when he can consistently repeat those results over the course of a career.

Marcus Robinson had a great season for the Bears in 1999.

Did that make him a great player?

No. It made him a player who had a great season.

There's a HUGE difference.

It's amazing you can't see it.

[NAHSTE]

Show me where I said Schaub was great?

You're right HB, you never called him great. You just said it implicitly in this exchange of posts:

Schaub is a great QB... are you saying he isn't because he has a great receiving corps and throws the ball alot? Isn't it the exact same for Brees and Manning?

Hmmm

Ah, I can see we have a voice of reasoning.

You even quoted his post to point out that you agreed with it. So yeah, you're right, you never said anything of the sort, ever. Your backpedal needs a little work, Taylor Mays.