Update: Pac-12 Divisions Official

[NAHSTE]

Looks like this could be the official breakdown.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5686274

Division A:
Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
UCLA
USC
Utah

Division B:
Cal
Oregon
Oregon St.
Stanford
Washington
Washington St.


Seems okay to me, not sure what Haden is bitching about.

"I told [the rest of the athletic directors] my alumni will kill me if we don’t play the Northern California schools," Haden said.

"I proposed a 5-2-2 model that has us playing the five schools [in our division] every year and then have the Northern California schools as part of our regular two and then rotate the other two. We need to play Stanford and Cal."

Um, who is saying you can't? What is with these ADs and school presidents making this way more complicated than it has to be? The SEC gave you a fucking template on how to make it work, and the ACC gave you a template on how to not make it work. It's not rocket science, do the plan that works (SEC now does a 5-1-2 rotation but it was 5-2-1 for the first 10 or so years) and quit fucking bitching.

[Hasselbeck]

I can see his gripe kind of. Why would you want to play Arizona, Colorado, Utah and Arizona State when you already have long standing rivalries tied up with Stanford in Cal.

The 5-2-2 model makes sense, but so does putting Cal and Stanford in the same division as USC and UCLA.

[BroncoBlue]

This kind of expected, one of the main reasons CU went to the Pac10 is because they reassurances that they would be included in a division that showcased southern California.

Great news for CU! They have a very big alumni base in southern Cal. Also I think CU could do very well selling this to possible recruits in that area. Can't wait for that CU vs Utah game next year.

[ram29jackson]

just put Washington State in the Sun Belt....or the WAC maybe?

[G-men]

USC is gonna dominate their division

[NAHSTE]

I can see his gripe kind of. Why would you want to play Arizona, Colorado, Utah and Arizona State when you already have long standing rivalries tied up with Stanford in Cal.

The 5-2-2 model makes sense, but so does putting Cal and Stanford in the same division as USC and UCLA.

The same reason Alabama plays Arkansas and Mississippi State instead of its longstanding rivalry with Tennessee ... oh wait.

Geographical split+cross-divisional permanent opponents=success

Why exactly does it matter whether USC is in the same division as Cal and Stanford, if they'll still play every year in a 5-2-2? If you play them every year, you play them every year.

USC is gonna dominate their division

No they won't. Utah is here to stay, especially now that they are in an AQ. And Colorado is a sleeping giant which will only get better and more attractive to recruits with the increased revenue.

[G-men]

The same reason Alabama plays Arkansas and Mississippi State instead of No they won't. Utah is here to stay, especially now that they are in an AQ. And Colorado is a sleeping giant which will only get better and more attractive to recruits with the increased revenue.

you cant say after the bowl suspension is over they wont be the favorite

[Cody]

I like it since they seem to keep the biggest rivalry teams in the same part of the conference.

[Fox1994]

you cant say after the bowl suspension is over they wont be the favorite

He can say whatever he wants. Until the games are played, we won't know. Oregon's playing lights-out, as they have, Arizona is in the top ten, California has been pretty good, UCLA's having a decent season, Oregon State is playing well, Stanford is playing well, and Kiffin has no idea how to get players to tackle or how to manage a clock.

I'm not counting anyone out, and I'm not prognosticating about the future until at least the end of this season.

[NAHSTE]

you cant say after the bowl suspension is over they wont be the favorite

Favorite, yeah, but they won't win every year.

[packersfan4eva]

Favorite, yeah, but they won't win every year.

I think they will. Once they get good again

[NAHSTE]

California is pivotal to recruiting in that conference.

The other schools are pissed they don't get USC and UCLA every year.

They could play USC or UCLA in the championship game if they stopped bitching and started winning.

[CaribbeanJoseph]

Yea this is fine, can't see any other way it could of been done, need to have Californian schools in both divisions and this is the obvious split.

[Warner2BruceTD]

USC is gonna dominate their division

Cyclical.

Makes little sense when people analyze splits in this manner.

[NAHSTE]

UCLA isn't going to the Pac 10 Title game anytime soon.

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Cyclical.