Sapp says Josh Freeman will be an MVP candidate

[Blick]

Plenty of scrambles in here that prove you wrong.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFmF9DcZ1k

Plus as much of an Eagles and McNabb fan I am, I have hard time saying this, but this guy is actually better than him in all aspects at similar points in both their careers. He will probably turn out a better QB than McNabb in the end.

More throws from the pocket there to prove me right...

LOLhighlights...look, Freeman is a good athlete, but to compare his running ability to a young McNabb is idiotic. In his second season, McNabb tucked the ball 86 times for 629 yards. Last year, in Freeman's second season, he only carried 68 times for 364 yards.

Freeman is a good scrambler/runner, but he only runs when he absolutely has to. He doesn't rely on his legs that much, and he never has. In college, when QB's can get away with running all over the place, Freeman actually had NEGATIVE rushing yardage in 2/3 seasons. Look it up.

Is Freeman athletic enough to make plays with his legs? Yes. Does he do a good job of escaping the rush and extending plays kinda like Big Ben? Absolutely. But, he's always been a west coast offense guy that has done a lot more throwing than running. He's never been a big runner, and his rushing attempts will only go down as he gets more comfortable reading defenses.

EDIT: To be fair, Blade, I agree that Freeman is more advanced as a passer than McNabb was at the same age. He might turn out to be a better player, but it's way too early to say right now. If he had a similar career to McNabb, I would take that in a heartbeat for a guy that was looked at by a lot of people as a reach and potential bust.

[Survivor]

More throws from the pocket there to prove me right...

LOLhighlights...look, Freeman is a good athlete, but to compare his running ability to a young McNabb is idiotic. In his second season, McNabb tucked the ball 86 times for 629 yards. Last year, in Freeman's second season, he only carried 68 times for 364 yards.

Freeman is a good scrambler/runner, but he only runs when he absolutely has to. He doesn't rely on his legs that much, and he never has. In college, when QB's can get away with running all over the place, Freeman actually had NEGATIVE rushing yardage in 2/3 seasons. Look it up.

Is Freeman athletic enough to make plays with his legs? Yes. Does he do a good job of escaping the rush and extending plays kinda like Big Ben? Absolutely. But, he's always been a west coast offense guy that has done a lot more throwing than running. He's never been a big runner, and his rushing attempts will only go down as he gets more comfortable reading defenses.

He is similar to Roethlisberger in the mobility department. He is hard to bring down and just quick enough to get him out of trouble.

[Blick]

Yeah, the Big Ben comparison makes more sense than the McNabb comparison.

[Hasselbeck]

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[Blick]

I don't know if Sapp honestly believes this. NAHSTE had it right on the first response.

[Senser81]

Freeman has Roethlisberger's mobility and McNabb's accuracy. That definitely screams "MVP" to me.

[Saluki]

I refuse to watch that video cuz im lazy. But if he was talking about this year he was clearly smoking that good shit before work. If he was talking about the future then i could see him being an MVP candidate at some point in his career...I mean even Dante Culpepper was an MVP candidate for 1 season (And that was one of Randy Mosses worst seasons in purple, surprisingly enough....even tho he did manage to get 13 TDs still) , and he has the potential to be TONS better than that.

[Blick]

Freeman has Roethlisberger's mobility and McNabb's accuracy. That definitely screams "MVP" to me.

Yeah, except it took McNabb 6 years to finally complete 60% of his passes in a season and Freeman has already done that.

[Blick]

I refuse to watch that video cuz im lazy. But if he was talking about this year he was clearly smoking that good shit before work. If he was talking about the future then i could see him being an MVP candidate at some point in his career...I mean even Dante Culpepper was an MVP candidate for 1 season (And that was one of Randy Mosses worst seasons in purple, surprisingly enough....even tho he did manage to get 13 TDs still) , and he has the potential to be TONS better than that.

He was talking about this upcoming season, but the idea behind the discussion was to make a bold statement about the NFC South.

[Senser81]

Yeah, except it took McNabb 6 years to finally complete 60% of his passes in a season and Freeman has already done that.

McNabb career completion percentage: 58.9%

Freeman career completion percentage: 58.8%

[Saluki]

He was talking about this upcoming season, but the idea behind the discussion was to make a bold statement about the NFC South.

lmao boo that then. He wont even be the most valuable player in his conf lol.........................actually in terms of relative value to his team he's pretty up there. But he'd need to make like 3-4 years of progression in 1 season to be an MVP candidate lol.

[Survivor]

McNabb career completion percentage: 58.9%

Freeman career completion percentage: 58.8%

This is fucking meaningless when Freeman's body of work include's only two seasons... including a rookie season that was less than stellar. In McNabb's rookie year he completed 49% of his passes.

[Senser81]

This is fucking meaningless when Freeman's body of work include's only two seasons... including a rookie season that was less than stellar.

But its meaningful to ignore 50% of Freeman's career. Got it.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

But its meaningful to ignore 50% of Freeman's career. Got it.

You could only ignore his rookie season, unless you're comparing single-season performances. Which is a common practice I believe.

BTW
McNabb as a rookie: 49.1%
Freeman as a rookie: 54.5%

[Survivor]

But its meaningful to ignore 50% of Freeman's career. Got it.

I'm saying Freeman's body of work is far too small to make a fair assessment, so statistics aren't really a firm indicator here for either side. Both Freeman and McNabb started off poorly in the accuracy department with bad rookie seasons then improved, but so did actual NFL MVPs. Peyton Manning only completed 56% of his passes as a rookie and his completion % went up each of the next 5 seasons. Who knows what will happen, but you are far too reasonable to really think Freeman is doomed to McNabb's mediocrity based on a year and a half of playing time.