Anyone Else Tired of Tim Tebow

[shag773]

Don't care one way or the other about Tebow as a person, but I am fascinated by him as an athlete.

He is the antithesis of the model NFL QB, but when faced with pressure situations this guy has had his share of success. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it in the NFL.

[FirstTimer]

Maybe because he has never said anything about it?

Umm ok?

He aligns himself with a certain sect of Christianity that is pretty outspoken about the issue. Tebow himself isn't. But I've never accused Tebow of being dumb. I just think the "Gosh golly, God is great thing" is offputting and why someone has never said "Hey Tim, we get it about your religious convictions but this group you do all this work for/under the umbrella of his pretty intolerant. How do you balance that out with your faith life?"

For someone who claims to "hate" Tebow espousing his beliefs it seems a bit ironic for you getting on the media for not "taking him to task" about them.

Tebow is getting a pass with the religious shit.

I'm not even sure I ever said I hated him.

[FirstTimer]

The only religious belief I've heard him say into a mic is that he believes in God and is thankful to him. When he's out in front of an abortion clinic or aligned with the Westboro people holding a sign then I think that would be a valid question.

I've also seen him out evangelizing to prison inmates, people in other countires etc.

He's holding a sign up for his cause everytim hh thanks God for a win...which is lulz worthy enough(and that goes for anyone that thanks God for anything like that)

Otherwise you're just muddying the water with a question that has nothing to do with football

I'm not saying it has to be asked at a post game presser.

Sorry, but generally speaking when you put your faith out there as much as he does...it's fair question to be called into play.

which would surely just be artfully dodged by Tebow. Just like every other inflammatory thing the press has tried to throw at him.

Should we start asking every Catholic in the NFL about the raping of altar boys? The changes to the church since Vatican II?

How many Catholic football players can you name? How many put their faith out there as much as Tebow does?

If there was a Catholic standing up there putting out his faith as much as Tebow does, hell yes ask him. Go for it.

Never said you hated him.. Just that you are one of the people who are always complaining about him thanking God and now you want sportswriters to start asking religiously based questions..

Never even said it had to be sportswriters. This would be great 60 mintues stuff.

I don't see how he's getting a pass, what have you heard him say in an interview beyond "I'd like to thank Jesus Christ first of all.."?

If we want to start digging into that quote I have about 1,000,000 acceptance speeches I can show you from people much less genuine about their faith than Tebow which contain the exact same phrase.

And they are all assclowns for doing it and I would bet did it a lot less than Tebow does.

I'm not questioning how "genuine" Tebow is about his faith, what I'm saying is that he is aligned with a pretty intolerant wing of Christianity...even by some evangelical standards. He is constantly putting his faith out there. The fact someone hasn't dug into it more or brought it up with him ever is mind boggling to me, given his choir boy image and how quickly people will go to tear down someone nowadays.

[shag773]

The only religious belief I've heard him say into a mic is that he believes in God and is thankful to him. When he's out in front of an abortion clinic or aligned with the Westboro people holding a sign then I think that would be a valid question.

Didn't he do an anti-abortion ad during the Super Bowl a few years back?

Should we start asking every Catholic in the NFL about the raping of altar boys? The changes to the church since Vatican II?

It's a little different dude. Priests raping alter boys is obviously a huge problem in the Catholic church but it isn't abdicated by your normal everyday Catholic.

[FirstTimer]

It's a little different dude. Priests raping alter boys is obviously a huge problem in the Catholic church but it isn't abdicated by your normal everyday Catholic.

Excellent point.

The alter boy abuse scandals don't have some wing within the Catholic Church that is supportive of them(insert Pope joke here) and isn't a central preaching angle of the Church....meanwhile the anti-gay/minority etc of some crazy evangelical wings is a preaching point for their church. There's a difference asking a player about something this is against the laws of the Church being done........and asking a player abotu something that his faith actually teach as being "right"

[ralaw]

I think it's pretty obvious Tebow would be against homosexuality, but it takes time for these sort of questions to be asked. It obviously wouldn't be as he's running off the field after a victory. In the offseason I can see someone asking the question in a non sports related sit down interview and I can see Tebow answering honestly, which would basically be, "homosexuality isn't pleasing to God, God still loves you, etc" If he answered it any other way or dodged the question he wouldn't be standing behind his beliefs, which he always has done.

[MvP]

As a born and raised Catholic I have to laugh at this whole discussion..mostly FirstTimer.

Why would anyone ask Tebow about his thoughts on homosexuality? Does the Gay & Lesbian community attack every known celebrity-figure Catholic out there? It's beyond me what kind of point FT is trying to prove here lol

[killgod]

As a born and raised Catholic I have to laugh at this whole discussion..mostly FirstTimer.

Why would anyone ask Tebow about his thoughts on homosexuality? Does the Gay & Lesbian community attack every known celebrity-figure Catholic out there? It's beyond me what kind of point FT is trying to prove here lol

Tebow uses the NFL as a platform in which to share his beliefs and the sect he belongs to is against homosexuality.

Was that so hard to connect the dots?

[s@ppisgod]

Don't you find it the least bit ironic that you're asking about him being taken to task about people in his religion being intolerant of gays? That they're personally offended that someone be gay, even though that's who they are. Like their choices affect those people that hate them personally. It doesn't.

But isn't that the same thing with people hating Tebow? HIS religion makes people uncomfortable, so he should stop being who he is when people put a mic in front of him?

I live in the St. Louis area and Kurt Warner did the same thing. The thing is, he wasn't all over TV everyday, so it didn't grate on people as much.

I don't get it though. Tebow and his foundation make a positive impact. Why would you hold it against him what other people do? Cam Newton stole some poor kid's laptop, lied to the cops about it, and kept his dad away from Auburn because of the heat from them most likely selling his play illegally to the highest bidder. Now, everyone loves watching him play. Tebow lives right, helps sick kids, and no one around him can find two bad words to say about him. And half the people who watch him every week actively root for him to fail. Regardless of where anyone falls on Tebow, you gotta admit that speaks to the type of supremely cynical society we live in.
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[FirstTimer]

As a born and raised Catholic I have to laugh at this whole discussion..mostly FirstTimer.

Why would anyone ask Tebow about his thoughts on homosexuality? Does the Gay & Lesbian community attack every known celebrity-figure Catholic out there? It's beyond me what kind of point FT is trying to prove here lol

Tebow uses the NFL as a platform in which to share his beliefs and the sect he belongs to is against homosexuality.

Was that so hard to connect the dots?

Thnx KG.

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[FirstTimer]

Don't you find it the least bit ironic that you're asking about him being taken to task about people in his religion being intolerant of gays?

No.

It's not really people "in his religion" It's part of his religion. That's why he willingly aligns himself with groups like Focus on the Family etc.


With Tebow using the NFL as a platform to help spread his relgious convictions/beliefs/evengelize(which he admitted in yesterdays press conference) I think it's a valid question.

But isn't that the same thing with people hating Tebow? HIS religion makes people uncomfortable, so he should stop being who he is when people put a mic in front of him?

I'm not saying he should stop being who he is. I'm saying I'm surprised no one has sat him down and asked him about it on the record.

Tebow and his foundation make a positive impact. Why would you hold it against him what other people do?

Do you not understand that the people in tebows foudnation more than liekly share those intolerant beliefs, as very well may Tebow himself.

I'm not questioning Tebow on the actions of every Christian worldwide, I'd be asking his frame of reference of the Church/sect that Tebow has willingly aligned himself with and is out there activley promoting...and using the NFL to help do it.

[killgod]

Don't you find it the least bit ironic that you're asking about him being taken to task about people in his religion being intolerant of gays? That they're personally offended that someone be gay, even though that's who they are. Like their choices affect those people that hate them personally. It doesn't.

But isn't that the same thing with people hating Tebow? HIS religion makes people uncomfortable, so he should stop being who he is when people put a mic in front of him?

I live in the St. Louis area and Kurt Warner did the same thing. The thing is, he wasn't all over TV everyday, so it didn't grate on people as much.

I don't get it though. Tebow and his foundation make a positive impact. Why would you hold it against him what other people do? Cam Newton stole some poor kid's laptop, lied to the cops about it, and kept his dad away from Auburn because of the heat from them most likely selling his play illegally to the highest bidder. Now, everyone loves watching him play. Tebow lives right, helps sick kids, and no one around him can find two bad words to say about him. And half the people who watch him every week actively root for him to fail. Regardless of where anyone falls on Tebow, you gotta admit that speaks to the type of supremely cynical society we live in.
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He's a bigot because of a fairytale.

Fact.

Get over it.

[FirstTimer]

Tebow using the NFL as a platform?

He admittd it in the press conference yesterday.

But a sportswriter asking a question about homosexuality in a post game on-field interview or press room like you seem to be suggesting then they should

I never suggested that. In fact I said the exact opposite a few posts ago.

Tebow is, I believe, on the record as having said that God has nothing to do with his winning games.

Then what exactly is he thanking God for after wins?

I don't see or hear him doing it after losses.(Am I wrong on this?)

Let's find every Muslim in the league and ask them about their thoughts on 9/11 while we're lumping people of faith together here.

I'm not lumping people of one faith together. In fact I have releatedly said Tebow's particlar sect of evangelical faith is rather intolerant.

I also don't recall many Muslims openly evangelizing in the NFL to where it would be an issue.

[wr50l]

Let's find every Muslim in the league and ask them about their thoughts on 9/11 while we're lumping people of faith together here.

And to think for one second that the NFL, which isn't known for being the most forward thinking group in terms of the gays, is going to let any journalist of repute open this Pandora's box with one of it's most marketable athletes is laughable.

Some of you really don't understand how media works at all.

A Muslim affiliated with Al Qaeda or just a regular old Muslim? Which one does Tebow most closely resemble?