Could LSU lose to Alabama in the National Championship and still be #1?

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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
    I understand where you guys are coming from..
    Reality.

    Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
    you guys are of the thought that Alabama is currently undeserving
    Nothing to do with it.


    Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
    But my point is that LSU could still be considered more deserving even if they lose...so therefore people could still vote LSU.
    We never said otherwise or disagreed that they "could"..We said they wouldn't vote them NC...and if the AP Poll somehow did it would be laughed at.

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    • ram29jackson
      Noob
      • Nov 2008
      • 0

      point blank- Bama has no business being in this game in the first place..this is the ultimate in a fixed match up to amuse people with money and power

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      • Senser81
        VSN Poster of the Year
        • Feb 2009
        • 12804

        Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
        I dont know why this stupid comparison keeps coming up, but college basketball doesnt crown its champion with polls.
        I didn't say "polls". I said people. It was in response to your argument that "people" could still say LSU is #1.

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        • ZoneBlitz
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          • Feb 2009
          • 1844

          Originally posted by Senser81
          I didn't say "polls". I said people. It was in response to your argument that "people" could still say LSU is #1.
          Irrelevant comparion, no other sport crowns its champ this way. CFB is the only sport that has difference of opinion on who the champion should be.

          Im simply saying some people could realistically vote LSU over Bama even if they lose a playoff game.

          FT is slowly coming around, i just need him to agree that its more possible than 0.0000000000001%

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          • Senser81
            VSN Poster of the Year
            • Feb 2009
            • 12804

            Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
            Irrelevant comparion, no other sport crowns its champ this way. CFB is the only sport that has difference of opinion on who the champion should be.

            Im simply saying some people could realistically vote LSU over Bama even if they lose a playoff game.
            No one is disagreeing with that being a possibility. I think the disagreement is that you seem to be attaching some sort of relevance to that possibility. What is your point?

            CFB is also the only sport that doesn't have a playoff system. COINCIDENCE?

            Your logic is incredibly backwards. Henry Ford invents the automobile, but you say we shouldn't produce automobiles "because nobody knows how to drive them".

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18729

              Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
              FT is slowly coming around, i just need him to agree that its more possible than 0.0000000000001%
              WTF do you mean "slowly coming around".

              I never said it was impossible.

              Read the thread again from the start retard.

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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18729

                Originally posted by Senser81
                No one is disagreeing with that being a possibility. I think the disagreement is that you seem to be attaching some sort of relevance to that possibility. What is your point?

                .
                Exactly. I'm sure some retard somewhere might vote LSU over Bama after a playoff loss NCG if the AP poll kept existing with the playoff set up or if it wasn't absorbed into the playoff set up itself.

                Then again a massive number more people would vote for Bama because it make sense basedon the way people think about and view playoffs. It's like the one or two writers voting for Boise each year they went undefeated. Sure it happened...but it didn't mean anything or change anything.

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                • ZoneBlitz
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                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1844

                  Originally posted by Senser81
                  No one is disagreeing with that being a possibility. I think the disagreement is that you seem to be attaching some sort of relevance to that possibility. What is your point?
                  That its a realistic possibility. That was my only point. So we agree then?

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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                    That its a realistic possibility
                    Not in any real meaningful or relevant way.

                    Tard

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                    • Senser81
                      VSN Poster of the Year
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 12804

                      Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                      That its a realistic possibility. That was my only point. So we agree then?
                      What is meant by "realistic possibility"? And thats not really a "point", its an observation.

                      I could say that its a realistic possibility that Ohio State doesn't sniff a national title game if a playoff system is developed...but is that really a "point"?

                      I'm not disputing what you say, I'm asking you "why are you saying this?"

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                      • ZoneBlitz
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                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1844

                        Originally posted by FirstTimer
                        Not in any real meaningful or relevant way.

                        Tard
                        Well you're wrong.

                        Fag.

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                        • ZoneBlitz
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1844

                          Originally posted by Senser81
                          What is meant by "realistic possibility"? And thats not really a "point", its an observation.

                          I could say that its a realistic possibility that Ohio State doesn't sniff a national title game if a playoff system is developed...but is that really a "point"?

                          I'm not disputing what you say, I'm asking you "why are you saying this?"
                          Because i was making an observation, point, whatever you wanna call it.

                          You guys been strongly disputing it for 3 pages.

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                          • kmanharris
                            Seven
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 6427



                            As FT and Sensor have said 56 times, (that's an exaggeration, don't take it literally) sure people could still say LSU>Bama even if Bama beat LSU in the NCCG after a playoff, but, those people would be in the minority and it wouldn't change a thing.

                            I'll break it down further and space it out in both scenarios for you:

                            Scenario 1
                            100 voters (again, made up number)
                            Bama>LSU with no playoff
                            51 vote LSU #1
                            49 vote Bama #1

                            Scenario 2
                            100 voters
                            Bama>LSU with a playoff
                            98 vote Bama #1
                            2 vote LSU #1

                            Do you see the difference? Majority of people voted LSU #1 in the scenario with no playoff, so obviously it makes a difference because of the subjectivity of how Bama got into the game. The 2 people who voted for LSU in scenario 2 don't make a fucking difference because there is no subjectivity because it was all decided on the field.

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                            • FirstTimer
                              Freeman Error

                              • Feb 2009
                              • 18729

                              Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                              Well you're wrong.

                              Fag.
                              My poll proves otherwise.



                              Originally posted by ZoneBlitz
                              You guys been strongly disputing it for 3 pages.
                              No, we have not been.

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                              • ZoneBlitz
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                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1844

                                Originally posted by kmanharris


                                As FT and Sensor have said 56 times, (that's an exaggeration, don't take it literally) sure people could still say LSU>Bama even if Bama beat LSU in the NCCG after a playoff, but, those people would be in the minority and it wouldn't change a thing.

                                I'll break it down further and space it out in both scenarios for you:

                                Scenario 1
                                100 voters (again, made up number)
                                Bama>LSU with no playoff
                                51 vote LSU #1
                                49 vote Bama #1

                                Scenario 2
                                100 voters
                                Bama>LSU with a playoff
                                98 vote Bama #1
                                2 vote LSU #1

                                Do you see the difference? Majority of people voted LSU #1 in the scenario with no playoff, so obviously it makes a difference because of the subjectivity of how Bama got into the game. The 2 people who voted for LSU in scenario 2 don't make a fucking difference because there is no subjectivity because it was all decided on the field.
                                Bullshit. Thats just your opinion.

                                Many people happen to believe Bama was deserving of the #2 spot, so they wouldnt need them to win a playoff game for them to be "deserving"

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