Saints Defense maintained a Bounty Program

[bucky]

Cord was cut. You mentioned my name.

Should the NFL allow it - no.

Can I put myself in Williams' and the players' shoes and understand why this would take place - yes.

Does that make it right - no.

Should the NFL change the game so that players are more safe - doesn't matter to me either way.

Can the NFL game be played in the manner it is today and not have things like this take place (bounties, cheap shots, trying to injure other players, etc) - I don't think it can.

No matter how many times you say it, she'll never understand that you think it's wrong. I firmly believe she PMSes every day of the month.

[EmpireWF]

DSpyder doesn't realize that these bounties violate the CBA (not to mention if the IRS wants to be a hard ass, these guys could find themselves in trouble), so you bet your ass the NFL will do what they have to, to make sure teams cut that shit out.

[ralaw]

Players don't play harder for more money and prestige. OK

Also, while the money is an issue the real issue is rewarding players for injuring opposing players. I'm sure $100 isn't anything to most NFL players, as the most of them make thousands upon thousands, but the real issue is the culture of boarderline dirty play that Williams created. This culture is a direct punch to the face to the image the NFL is trying to maintain, which is player safety.

[DSpydr84]

A couple of thoughts here:

1) Some of you are retards.

2) The bottom line is that whether you agree or not, you like it or not, paying a bonus to players that is not written in the contract is illegal under NFL rules. The Saints will be punished for this.

3) We're naive to think this doesn't happen in a lot of other places (although maybe not to the extent of the coach getting involved). These players have a lot of money and once an idea spreads, it catches fire.

4) The rewards were for knocking players out of a game, interceptions and forcing fumbles. That doesn't really dull the blow, but it should be mentioned.

5) I know it's cliche, but football is a violent game. And most of the guys who play it are a little bit crazy. If you ran into a person full speed and speared them into a fruit stand walking down the street, you're going to jail.

6) The difference between saying "We're trying to intimidate the other team through violent, aggressive play" and "We're trying to injure a player" is a thin, thin line. Everyone says A, not many people openly say B.

DSpyder doesn't realize that these bounties violate the CBA (not to mention if the IRS wants to be a hard ass, these guys could find themselves in trouble), so you bet your ass the NFL will do what they have to, to make sure teams cut that shit out.

[bucky]

Also, while the money is an issue the real issue is rewarding players for injuring opposing players. I'm sure $100 isn't anything to most NFL players, as the most of them make thousands upon thousands, but the real issue is the culture of boarderline dirty play that Williams created. This culture is a direct punch to the face to the image the NFL is trying to maintain, which is player safety.

So why isn't this thread concentrating on player safety and changes to the game to help ensure player safety?

[EmpireWF]

Can the NFL game be played in the manner it is today and not have things like this take place (bounties, cheap shots, trying to injure other players, etc) - I don't think it can.

Can't have it both ways.

[ZoneBlitz]

Players don't play harder for more money and prestige. OK

$10,000 is chump change compared even to the league minimum. Defenders are always trying to rip the offensive's players head off, and it has nothing to do with bounties.

[ralaw]

So why isn't this thread concentrating on player safety and changes to the game to help ensure player safety?

Because Roger Goodell doesn't post here?

Why should we care about player safety and changes to the game to enure it? That isn't our role....we're fans......we just go with the flow....and cheer big hits.

[DSpydr84]

Can't have it both ways.

Which is what I've been contending since the beginning of this thread.

If you don't want these things to happen, the game has to change. Players are on record saying they'll get up out of a pile and purposely try to re-injure a player who had a previous injury. Players are taught to dive at knees, cut block, and blind-side players. Helmet-to-helmet hits and launching (FINALLY) are being taken care of, but that was almost common practice down the field against receivers. And even with the rules, players continue to do it out of habit.

The NFL is doing what they can to limit these things, but it will never change unless the game does. I firmly believe it.

[Warner2BruceTD]

So why isn't this thread concentrating on player safety and changes to the game to help ensure player safety?

oh bucky, just stfu already

The thread is about bounties you goofball, stop trying to tell people how to express themselves on the topic you geek.

[MrBill]

$10,000 is chump change compared even to the league minimum. Defenders are always trying to rip the offensive's players head off, and it has nothing to do with bounties.

$10,000 in tax free no agent fees cash is still a pretty big incentive to a lot of guys that grew up dirt poor. It's also the bragging rights in the locker room of being the person that collected. Guys in biker gangs will kill somebody just to sew a 50 cent patch on their vest. Not a stretch to think $10,000 would motivate somebody to do bad things.

[bucky]

Because Roger Goodell doesn't post here?

Why should we care about player safety and changes to the game to enure it? That isn't our role....we're fans, and we just go with the flow.

I thought that's what forum discussions were for.

We don't play the game either. We can't change whether bounty's exist or not. We can't do anything about bounty's. We're not Roger Goodel. We're fans, we just go with the flow. How does this thread even exist?

[bucky]

$10,000 in tax free no agent fees cash is still a pretty big incentive to a lot of guys that grew up dirt poor. It's also the bragging rights in the locker room of being the person that collected.

It's the bragging rights. And those bragging rights are still going to exist in one form or another.

[Warner2BruceTD]

$10,000 in tax free no agent fees cash is still a pretty big incentive to a lot of guys that grew up dirt poor. It's also the bragging rights in the locker room of being the person that collected.

Zoneblitz is lost, as is anyone who thinks it's about the actual monetary figure.

The bounties matter to these guys, otherwise they wouldn't exist. Some real deep thinkers we have here.

[bucky]

oh bucky, just stfu already

The thread is about bounties you goofball, stop trying to tell people how to express themselves on the topic you geek.

Because player safety is related to bounty's you dumbass.