is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?
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ST. LOUIS -- Through his four-plus seasons in St. Louis, Richie Incognito found himself in the middle of plenty of battles, none bigger than the on-going struggle with himself.
"I mean, we'd have practice the next morning, and I'm out until all hours of the night, running the town," Incognito told NFL.com over the summer. "Drinking. Doing drugs. I was doing everything that a professional athlete should not be doing."
Incognito’s failure to control his rage on the field was ultimately what led to his departure from St. Louis. In 44 games with the Rams, he racked up 38 penalties, including seven for unnecessary roughness, the most of any player during that timeframe.
The game he’s, perhaps, most remembered for –- and not in a good way –- was the Week 10 trip to Seattle in 2006 when he managed to pick up a personal foul and holding penalty after a Steven Jackson rushing touchdown had given the Rams a 22-21 lead with about two and a half minutes to go.
Those infractions cost the Rams 25 yards and a chance at a two-point conversion. Seattle eventually kicked a field goal and won 24-22. That loss loomed huge late in the year, when the Rams finished a game short of winning the NFC West to the Seahawks.
In 2009, Incognito was named the NFL’s dirtiest player by the Sporting News, an “award” voted on by a panel of 99 players. It was a designation that didn’t bother Incognito and one he actually took pride in, claiming other players didn’t care for his intensity level.
Through all of that, there were little to no signs that Incognito and his teammates didn’t get along. He was mostly well liked and respected by many of his teammates, particularly on offense because of his fearless attitude on the field and willingness to stand up for them in the heat of a game.
That doesn’t mean Incognito didn’t have his share of run-ins with teammates and even the fans. During one 2006 training camp practice, Incognito got into a pretty serious altercation with little-known cornerback Dwight Anderson.
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if the NFL banishes him he should sue the league. This not even as bad as what some guys get second and 3rd chances for every year in the league. Just sign him up for the stupid sensitivity training and move on.Comment
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it also speaks volumes that he's played 7 years. Football wants crazy freaks who will do what it takes to win.
if the NFL banishes him he should sue the league. This not even as bad as what some guys get second and 3rd chances for every year in the league. Just sign him up for the stupid sensitivity training and move on.
And why is it that TailbackU is the one on VSN that seems to have the most common sense?Comment
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I think he should be banned from the league, and be given steps he needs to take to even be considered for reinstatement just like other NFL players that have gotten into serious trouble. Jolly had to wait to see if he got reinstated along with many others. It's then up to the commissioner to decide if he gets reinstated.
And why is it that TailbackU is the one on VSN that seems to have the most common sense?Comment
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it also speaks volumes that he's played 7 years. Football wants crazy freaks who will do what it takes to win.
if the NFL banishes him he should sue the league. This not even as bad as what some guys get second and 3rd chances for every year in the league. Just sign him up for the stupid sensitivity training and move on.
Per rotoworld:
One NFL personnel man told USA Today's Tom Pelissero that Richie Incognito's career is likely over.
Incognito bullied Dolphins OT Jonathan Martin to the point that he essentially had a mental meltdown and left the team. "Lol," the personnel man replied when asked by Pelissero whether Incognito will be claimed off waivers. "I think he can file his retirement papers." Incognito graded out as a top-13 guard in Pro Football Focus' ratings, so his loss is a concern on the field.
Not saying he won't eventually get back in because if Gregg Williams was allowed to return I have a hard time seeing them blackball incognito, but he is a blatant racist and psychopath. Not sure who would want him.Comment
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i think this entire thing has turned into a joke. now that the details have surfaced, Martin is a big fat pussy. What a fucking cry baby. This kind of shit goes on in every locker room across the league. This guy couldnt take it and like a little bitch, took his ball and went home. The only thing that is an issue is Icognitos use of the word nigger. Thats not called for in any situation these days. It crosses the line. But now, ESPN has decided to fuel the story by calling him a racist and a bigot and a bully.
This should have been handled in house, behind closed doors, among men. But instead, Martin cried like a bitch and is now fucking things up for all the other players.Comment
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Riley Cooper wants to know how you figure he is a racist?Comment
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Just like you said tebow would get signed, right?
Per rotoworld:
I think you are underestimating how serious this is to the nfl and the teams.
Not saying he won't eventually get back in because if Gregg Williams was allowed to return I have a hard time seeing them blackball incognito, but he is a blatant racist and psychopath. Not sure who would want him.Comment
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i think this entire thing has turned into a joke. now that the details have surfaced, Martin is a big fat pussy. What a fucking cry baby. This kind of shit goes on in every locker room across the league. This guy couldnt take it and like a little bitch, took his ball and went home. The only thing that is an issue is Icognitos use of the word nigger. Thats not called for in any situation these days. It crosses the line. But now, ESPN has decided to fuel the story by calling him a racist and a bigot and a bully.
This should have been handled in house, behind closed doors, among men. But instead, Martin cried like a bitch and is now fucking things up for all the other players.
You, like f16, are putting the blame on the victim and defending Incognito. Fucking dunces.Comment
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