is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?

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  • ram29jackson
    Noob
    • Nov 2008
    • 0

    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
    May I see this "badness scale"?

    Which is worse, kid murder or elderly rape?
    both are worse than this obviously

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    • Pitty
      Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
      • Feb 2009
      • 7541

      Listen, I think that there aren't many "right" parties in this situation, and Incognito, as well as Philbin should get the chop, however I also don't think Martin handled it well. All I'm saying.

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      • ram29jackson
        Noob
        • Nov 2008
        • 0

        you'd think with a name like Incognito, he would learn how to hide his bullying better

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        • ram29jackson
          Noob
          • Nov 2008
          • 0

          ST. LOUIS -- Through his four-plus seasons in St. Louis, Richie Incognito found himself in the middle of plenty of battles, none bigger than the on-going struggle with himself.



          "I mean, we'd have practice the next morning, and I'm out until all hours of the night, running the town," Incognito told NFL.com over the summer. "Drinking. Doing drugs. I was doing everything that a professional athlete should not be doing."

          Incognito’s failure to control his rage on the field was ultimately what led to his departure from St. Louis. In 44 games with the Rams, he racked up 38 penalties, including seven for unnecessary roughness, the most of any player during that timeframe.

          The game he’s, perhaps, most remembered for –- and not in a good way –- was the Week 10 trip to Seattle in 2006 when he managed to pick up a personal foul and holding penalty after a Steven Jackson rushing touchdown had given the Rams a 22-21 lead with about two and a half minutes to go.

          Those infractions cost the Rams 25 yards and a chance at a two-point conversion. Seattle eventually kicked a field goal and won 24-22. That loss loomed huge late in the year, when the Rams finished a game short of winning the NFC West to the Seahawks.

          In 2009, Incognito was named the NFL’s dirtiest player by the Sporting News, an “award” voted on by a panel of 99 players. It was a designation that didn’t bother Incognito and one he actually took pride in, claiming other players didn’t care for his intensity level.

          Through all of that, there were little to no signs that Incognito and his teammates didn’t get along. He was mostly well liked and respected by many of his teammates, particularly on offense because of his fearless attitude on the field and willingness to stand up for them in the heat of a game.

          That doesn’t mean Incognito didn’t have his share of run-ins with teammates and even the fans. During one 2006 training camp practice, Incognito got into a pretty serious altercation with little-known cornerback Dwight Anderson.

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          • Rayman
            Spic 'n Spanish
            • Feb 2009
            • 4626

            The fact that Incognito has a rep as a borderline psychopath dating back to his college days and that there were multiple teams that wanted nothing to do with him on draft day probably speaks volumes here.



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            • ram29jackson
              Noob
              • Nov 2008
              • 0

              Originally posted by Rayman
              The fact that Incognito has a rep as a borderline psychopath dating back to his college days and that there were multiple teams that wanted nothing to do with him on draft day probably speaks volumes here.
              it also speaks volumes that he's played 7 years. Football wants crazy freaks who will do what it takes to win.

              if the NFL banishes him he should sue the league. This not even as bad as what some guys get second and 3rd chances for every year in the league. Just sign him up for the stupid sensitivity training and move on.

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              • bucky
                #50? WTF?
                • Feb 2009
                • 5408

                Originally posted by ram29jackson
                it also speaks volumes that he's played 7 years. Football wants crazy freaks who will do what it takes to win.

                if the NFL banishes him he should sue the league. This not even as bad as what some guys get second and 3rd chances for every year in the league. Just sign him up for the stupid sensitivity training and move on.
                I think he should be banned from the league, and be given steps he needs to take to even be considered for reinstatement just like other NFL players that have gotten into serious trouble. Jolly had to wait to see if he got reinstated along with many others. It's then up to the commissioner to decide if he gets reinstated.

                And why is it that TailbackU is the one on VSN that seems to have the most common sense?

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                • ram29jackson
                  Noob
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 0

                  Originally posted by bucky
                  I think he should be banned from the league, and be given steps he needs to take to even be considered for reinstatement just like other NFL players that have gotten into serious trouble. Jolly had to wait to see if he got reinstated along with many others. It's then up to the commissioner to decide if he gets reinstated.

                  And why is it that TailbackU is the one on VSN that seems to have the most common sense?
                  LOL none of your wants are remotely going to happen. He'll be in a camp next year if he isn't picked up by some team in playoff contention however the rules allow

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                  • ram29jackson
                    Noob
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 0

                    LOL I have to admit, I like the background on his twitter page



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                    • Tailback U
                      No substitute 4 strength.
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10282

                      Originally posted by ram29jackson
                      it also speaks volumes that he's played 7 years. Football wants crazy freaks who will do what it takes to win.

                      if the NFL banishes him he should sue the league. This not even as bad as what some guys get second and 3rd chances for every year in the league. Just sign him up for the stupid sensitivity training and move on.
                      Just like you said tebow would get signed, right?

                      Per rotoworld:

                      One NFL personnel man told USA Today's Tom Pelissero that Richie Incognito's career is likely over.
                      Incognito bullied Dolphins OT Jonathan Martin to the point that he essentially had a mental meltdown and left the team. "Lol," the personnel man replied when asked by Pelissero whether Incognito will be claimed off waivers. "I think he can file his retirement papers." Incognito graded out as a top-13 guard in Pro Football Focus' ratings, so his loss is a concern on the field.
                      I think you are underestimating how serious this is to the nfl and the teams.

                      Not saying he won't eventually get back in because if Gregg Williams was allowed to return I have a hard time seeing them blackball incognito, but he is a blatant racist and psychopath. Not sure who would want him.

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                      • Maynard
                        stupid ass titles
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 17876

                        i think this entire thing has turned into a joke. now that the details have surfaced, Martin is a big fat pussy. What a fucking cry baby. This kind of shit goes on in every locker room across the league. This guy couldnt take it and like a little bitch, took his ball and went home. The only thing that is an issue is Icognitos use of the word nigger. Thats not called for in any situation these days. It crosses the line. But now, ESPN has decided to fuel the story by calling him a racist and a bigot and a bully.

                        This should have been handled in house, behind closed doors, among men. But instead, Martin cried like a bitch and is now fucking things up for all the other players.

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                        • Maynard
                          stupid ass titles
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 17876

                          Originally posted by Tailback U
                          Not saying he won't eventually get back in because if Gregg Williams was allowed to return I have a hard time seeing them blackball incognito, but he is a blatant racist and psychopath. Not sure who would want him.
                          Riley Cooper wants to know how you figure he is a racist?

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                          • ram29jackson
                            Noob
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 0

                            Originally posted by Tailback U
                            Just like you said tebow would get signed, right?

                            Per rotoworld:



                            I think you are underestimating how serious this is to the nfl and the teams.

                            Not saying he won't eventually get back in because if Gregg Williams was allowed to return I have a hard time seeing them blackball incognito, but he is a blatant racist and psychopath. Not sure who would want him.
                            LOL where has any racism been proven ?

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                            • MrBill
                              Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 0

                              Incognito can always get a job as a counselor at the Riley Cooper School of Racial and Gender Equality.

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                              • kmanharris
                                Seven
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 6427

                                Originally posted by Maynard
                                i think this entire thing has turned into a joke. now that the details have surfaced, Martin is a big fat pussy. What a fucking cry baby. This kind of shit goes on in every locker room across the league. This guy couldnt take it and like a little bitch, took his ball and went home. The only thing that is an issue is Icognitos use of the word nigger. Thats not called for in any situation these days. It crosses the line. But now, ESPN has decided to fuel the story by calling him a racist and a bigot and a bully.

                                This should have been handled in house, behind closed doors, among men. But instead, Martin cried like a bitch and is now fucking things up for all the other players.
                                What about the death threats? Or the threat to Martin's family?

                                You, like f16, are putting the blame on the victim and defending Incognito. Fucking dunces.

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