is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?

[Pitty]

I wonder if you read this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/05/martins-high-school-coach-not-surprised-he-was-targeted/

Since this passage...



... appears to be pretty similar to your post:


Seems like a pretty idiotic conclusion to draw, and one that relies on quite a few generalizations. But glad it's not your own take, just one you lifted from elsewhere on the net. There's hope for you yet.

Goddam House Nigger.

/Icognito

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I wonder if you read this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/05/martins-high-school-coach-not-surprised-he-was-targeted/

Since this passage...



... appears to be pretty similar to your post:


Seems like a pretty idiotic conclusion to draw, and one that relies on quite a few generalizations. But glad it's not your own take, just one you lifted from elsewhere on the net. There's hope for you yet.

Miami's intelligent players put hits out on quarterbacks (Vilma) or request the rest of his band of thugs dominate when they ain't doing it (Joaquin Gonzalez).

I think its pretty safe to say that the Charmin soft Martin couldn't hang with real Southern Savage Negros...them real niggas that ain't fuck with Ol Cottonelle Johnny. He wasn't born...he was blossomed. His heart got a ponytail. He makes lambs look dangerous.

[NAHSTE]

I think its pretty safe to say that the Charmin soft Martin couldn't hang with real Southern Savage Negros...them real niggas that ain't fuck with Ol Cottonelle Johnny.

But I bet they'll hang out with Drake at Liv.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Martin should have showed up in a bloody prom dress and hired some SFX guys and scare the shit out of Incognito who was clearly doing HIS best to be imaginative.

When Ricky Williams calls you out you've got issues.

[Tailback U]

Let's not forget he pulled the exact same prank on a fellow teammate the week before.

Martin is far from innocent in this whole thing and if were gonna be putting the blame on people, he deserves his fair share.

Except Martin took part in the bullying just the week before he left the team.

Now who is playing dumb?

Martin is a pawn. Guy couldn't even stick up for himself, how is he gonna stick up for someone else and make himself an even bigger target.

I've heard a couple people that knew Martin in HS call in on the local Bay Area radio and talk about how Martin was basically a big nice teddy bear. He is one of those guys. Obviously, a great athlete and smart.

The only thing you guys are doing is making me feel ba little etter about picking on kids in high school. Maybe you're right, it is probably that dorks fault. He never tried to fight me. He obviously deserved it.

[Warner2BruceTD]

We're talking about a grown man here, Tailback. And this is not me defending Incognito, who I have been very critical of the entire thread. This was handled very poorly by Martin.

[Maynard]

tailback is the ramjackson of this thread. the idiotic, ignorant comments he has made throughout this thread are baffling. its clear you have ZERO knowledge of anything related to football or the culture that these players live in.

I'm calling you a pussy because you're acting like a coward. It's really easy to blame the "big weirdo" who is socially awkward and has no friends and "cried" to the media. A real man would place the blame on the bully at fault. Coward move to use the "we don't understand their culture, it's not fair to judge them" excuse.

I'd love to know how you feel about prison culture. Are you totally ok with it? Guys getting their asses kicked and fucked for no reason at all, just because they're "fresh meat." We as human beings shouldn't hold others to a higher standard?

Omar Kelly of the Sun Sentinel reports on some more troubling details in regard to the Dolphins organization:

Miami Dolphins' coaches asked football player Richie Incognito, who was the offensive line's undisputed leader, to toughen up teammate Jonathan Martin after he missed a voluntary workout last spring, at least two sources told the Sun Sentinel.

The sources told the paper they believe that Incognito, who is accused of using racially incendiary language and bullying tactics against Martin, may have taken those orders too far.

"I'm just trying to weather the storm right now. This will pass," Incognito told WSVN-TV when reached outside a doctor's office.

(...)

Sources say that dialogue took place when Martin skipped two days of the team's OTA program, and Incognito was encouraged by his coaches to make a call that would "get him into the fold," one source said.

[f16harm]

tailback is the ramjackson of this thread. the idiotic, ignorant comments he has made throughout this thread are baffling. its clear you have ZERO knowledge of anything related to football or the culture that these players live in.

Give the guy a break, he has an inferiority complex and likes to play out his aggro, bro' boy dominance on here. To top it off, this topic hits close to home for him because of his loser roots. I tried to use a Floyd Mayweather analogy in this reply to better present my thoughts, but I couldn't think of one......because I know the proper definition and use of the the word "analogy."

[Tailback U]

Give the guy a break, he has an inferiority complex and likes to play out his aggro, bro' boy dominance on here. To top it off, this topic hits close to home for him because of his loser roots. I tried to use a Floyd Mayweather analogy in this reply to better present my thoughts, but I couldn't think of one......because I know the proper definition and use of the the word "analogy."

You must be literally retarded because I'm actually doing the opposite. I'm taking the side of the pussy instead if the tough guy.

All I know is I'm once again glad that I'm not siding with f16harm and Maynard on a topic and i bet I'm not the only one.

Maynard, the fact that you think you know more about football culture than me is hilarious. You've never been in a weight room your entire life while I played through college.

I've already said Martin could have handled it better, but that doesn't mean he deserves what he got. That's the bottom line. Any somewhat intelligent human being should be able to see this.

I'll let you two idiots ramble on about why Martin is at fault here since this thread has ran it's course.

[Argath]

You must be literally retarded because I'm actually doing the opposite. I'm taking the side of the pussy instead if the tough guy.

All I know is I'm once again glad that I'm not siding with f16harm and Maynard on a topic and i bet I'm not the only one.

Maynard, the fact that you think you know more about football culture than me is hilarious. You've never been in a weight room your entire life while I played through college.

I've already said Martin could have handled it better, but that doesn't mean he deserves what he got. That's the bottom line. Any somewhat intelligent human being should be able to see this.

I'll let you two idiots ramble on about why Martin is at fault here since this thread has ran it's course.

Once you get through your deep seeded childhood guilt of being a bully, you should come back and look at the facts all over again.

Martin was skipping practice. He wasn't being a team player. He was participating in pranks on other players. He was playing terrible on the field during games. He's not 100% innocent in this and I don't understand how you can't see that.

Don't get me wrong, Incognito is a terrible excuse for a human being and a mega doucher. I'm not siding with him. Acting like Martin is a saint in all of this is just as ignorant as siding with Incognito. Both sides are at fault and this is something that you can't seem to grasp. Not every case is black and white and this case is certainly all different shades of grey.

[f16harm]

You must be literally retarded because I'm actually doing the opposite. I'm taking the side of the pussy instead if the tough guy.

All I know is I'm once again glad that I'm not siding with f16harm and Maynard on a topic and i bet I'm not the only one.

Maynard, the fact that you think you know more about football culture than me is hilarious. You've never been in a weight room your entire life while I played through college.

I've already said Martin could have handled it better, but that doesn't mean he deserves what he got. That's the bottom line. Any somewhat intelligent human being should be able to see this.

I'll let you two idiots ramble on about why Martin is at fault here since this thread has ran it's course.

You're a Big Weirdo. You've gone off the fucking deep end with this shit.

[MrBill]

Sounds like the Miami coaching staff might have ordered the Code Red.

The Miami Dolphins-Richie Incognito fiasco is potentially set to take a wild turn. Reports came out on Tuesday night that the Dolphins’ coaching staff could have possibly been behind Incognito bullying Jonathan Martin. The reports state that after Martin missed an OTA workout, coaches instructed Incognito to ‘toughen’ the second-year player up. Clearly, Incognito went too far with with his actions and words. But to an extent, he may have been acting on behalf of the Dolphins.

Here’s what our source had to say about the firestorm that could be headed the Dolphins way:

“I heard some details about the Jonathan Martin ordeal. If true, and those details go public it will be front page news. Miami could face a bountygate style punishment. (Jeff) Ireland is a dead man walking, (Joe) Philbin may get a season to prove himself but heads will roll from all parties of the Dolphins if true.”

That’s right, a bountygate-style punishment.

If indeed it turns out that the Dolphins’ staff was at the root of the harassment of Martin, this thing could get really ugly. It was bad enough when the perception was that the staff failed because they let the situation get to the point it did. But if they turn out to be behind it, even to a small degree, oh man.

If things unfold like we think they will, multiple members of the Miami staff are likely to get their walking papers in the near future.

Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/1...ROgyedFQDFZ.99

[Glenbino]

I'm just happy Joe Philbin's son isn't alive to see this.

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[Argath]

I'm just happy Joe Philbin's son isn't alive to see this.

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[f16harm]

I'm just happy Joe Philbin's son isn't alive to see this.