is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?

[Maynard]

totally agree. they didnt support him when he was thought of a a nark, now with those texts he is done for

[Kuzzy Powers]

Incognito will get a job next year, but this shit will never escape him from a media stand point. Atleast he should be able to still find work tho.

[MrBill]

I dont see how anyone would support Martin after those text have been revealed. Puts shit into perspective.

Why did he clam up when he could have spoken up and defused the situation?

[BigBucs]

Why did he clam up when he could have spoken up and defused the situation?

Who, Martin? I have no idea. Before those text were revealed it seemed as though Incognito was just some racist bigot who shitted on Martin for no reason. Text clearly show they they both went back and forth, jokingly, saying some pretty offensive shit to one another. Martin is a pussy and is dead wrong to let shit go on the way it did and Miami's front office handled the situation poorly.

[dave]

I dont see how anyone would support Martin after those text have been revealed. Puts shit into perspective.

Agreed. While I also think Incognito is a douche, he's hardly the guilty party here. The Stanford grad clearly has issues. Martin clearly was unable to deal with an NFL locker room. I disagree with Maynard though, I suspect he'll get one more chance to redeem himself. Incognito, I'm not so sure. Incognito is now like Tebow, untouchable. You simply can't bring that to your locker room. Martin might get one more chance in an established veteran locker room like Pittsburgh, New England, etc...

[Juggernaut]

Agreed. While I also think Incognito is a douche, he's hardly the guilty party here. The Stanford grad clearly has issues. Martin clearly was unable to deal with an NFL locker room. I disagree with Maynard though, I suspect he'll get one more chance to redeem himself. Incognito, I'm not so sure. Incognito is now like Tebow, untouchable. You simply can't bring that to your locker room. Martin might get one more chance in an established veteran locker room like Pittsburgh, New England, etc...

I see it differently. While I wouldn't want either of them on my team, I see more teams giving Incognito shot over Martin. Incognito goes to a locker room and he fits in, doesn't disrupt the team's synergy. Don't think the same would be with Martin after he ran away from a team.

[Youk]

I dont see how anyone would support Martin after those text have been revealed. Puts shit into perspective.

The real shame is Martin not just coming clean with this right away. You come out and say you had a personal issue, etc., it blows over. You come out blaming teammates, then we have a whole different story. Martin had months to come out and say "No, no, this was overblown", but he fucked that up. It really is too bad for him.

[Maynard]

Agreed. While I also think Incognito is a douche, he's hardly the guilty party here. The Stanford grad clearly has issues. Martin clearly was unable to deal with an NFL locker room. I disagree with Maynard though, I suspect he'll get one more chance to redeem himself. Incognito, I'm not so sure. Incognito is now like Tebow, untouchable. You simply can't bring that to your locker room. Martin might get one more chance in an established veteran locker room like Pittsburgh, New England, etc...

idk...not sure a team would want to risk the what this guy brings to a locker room. NFL is a fraternity and this guy ratted on one of his own. that level of distrust can create disarray. i doubt to many coaches would want to risk that. especially with linemen. these guys are a team within the team. You wouldnt knowingly give yourself a disease and thats what Martin is

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

"Yeah I'm good man. It's insane bro but just know I don't blame you guys at all its just the culture around football and the locker room got to me a little … Btw … never check yourself into a mental hospital."



As normal people have always known...Martin is...

[CCBrink]

Over 1000 text transcript between Marshall and Incognito

http://thebiglead.com/2014/02/03/here-are-over-1000-text-messages-that-richie-incognito-and-jonathan-martin-allegedly-exchanged/#sthash.0DX3EvWu.uxfs

[Argath]

*cue warner's I told you so shtick*

[albidnis]

Man that was a tough read..lol These dudes have some issues. Can't believe Martin didn't say anything. They seemed to have a bromance going. Seemed more like Icognito was trying to keep him involved with everyone. Just crazy

[ram29jackson]

you see...people like these 2 guys and Sherman were brought up in the start of the " you are ok the way you are, don't judge anyone,everyones a winner, you can think and be anything you want" educational system.No critical thought is truly developed and you get a skewed self serving thought process.

[BigBucs]

Wow, feel bad for Incognito after reading through that shit. Jonathan Martin should never get another job on anyones team. Dude seemed like a good friend and he just allowed that shit to happen.

[Maynard]

incognito suspension is lifted...he tweeted support for martin