the top 107 QB ratings list

[Aso]

Warren Moon > Steve Young?

Yeah list is gahbigg

[ram29jackson]

Warren Moon > Steve Young?

Yeah list is gahbigg

why ? Warren Moon was the black Dan Marino

[Aso]

why ? Warren Moon was the black Dan Marino

Not quite and its really not even debatable between Young and Moon.

[ram29jackson]

Not quite and its really not even debatable between Young and Moon.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounSt00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoonWa00.htm

http://www.goteamsgo.com/forum/football-forums/12692-warren-moon-or-steve-young.html

[Hasselbeck]

Would be curious to see where Wilson, Luck, Kaepernick, Newton, etc all fall on this list. Not sure why they were omitted to begin with. The "experience" thing is lame considering Kaep has been to 2 NFC Title games and a Super Bowl, Wilson has a Super Bowl title, Luck has a playoff win, Newton has great seasons.. and so forth.

[ram29jackson]

Would be curious to see where Wilson, Luck, Kaepernick, Newton, etc all fall on this list. Not sure why they were omitted to begin with. The "experience" thing is lame considering Kaep has been to 2 NFC Title games and a Super Bowl, Wilson has a Super Bowl title, Luck has a playoff win, Newton has great seasons.. and so forth.

they haven't played long enough

for every QB who has 10 years of experience and at least 5 years as their team's majority starter with at least 2 years starting from 1966 or later (Super Bowl Era).

[ram29jackson]

the explanation from the guy who made the thread about only using Super Bowl era stats/players

I had to throw out pre super bowl because of the problems with the playoffs. If I lost the play offs, Baugh would have been right in front of Brady. Otto Graham would have finished first and Montana second.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GrahOt00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BaugSa00.htm

[Warner2BruceTD]

Throwing out pre Super Bowl is stupid. NFL Championship games & NFL titles before the SB existed are just as prestigious as the Super Bowl.

The NFL Title games of the early 60's that took place pre Super Bowl were more legitimate games than the early Super Bowl games, because all of the best teams were in the NFL anyway. Saying pre merger & realignment Super Bowl games carry more meaning than pre Super Bowl NFL title games is not understanding history. The league didn't start at Super Bowl I. Those pre SB Packer championships are no less important than the two Super Bowl champion Packer teams that ended up beating inferior competition anyway.

[ram29jackson]

Throwing out pre Super Bowl is stupid. NFL Championship games & NFL titles before the NFL existed are just as prestigious as the Super Bowl.

The NFL Title games of the early 60's that took place pre Super Bowl were more legitimate games than the early Super Bowl games, because all of the best teams were in the NFL anyway. Saying pre merger & realignment Super Bowl games carrying more meaning than pre Super Bowl NFL title games is not understanding history. The league didn't start at Super Bowl I. Those pre SB Packer championships are no less important than the two Super Bowl champion Packer teams that ended up beating inferior competition anyway.

of course but a majority of 60 year old critical thinking football/ sports fans don't waste a lot of time bantering on the internet about this stuff. Therefore you get the 20/30 something's who are a stat click away from knowing everything as far as they're concerned. History be damned

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

the top 20 appears to make sense to me

20. Jim Kelly
19. Bart Starr
18. Joe Theismann
17. Terry Bradshaw
16. Kurt Warner
15. Dan Fouts
14. John Elway
13. Ken Anderson
12. Steve Young
11. Ken Stabler
10. Warren Moon
9. Brett Favre
8. Fran Tarkenton
7. Johnny Unitas
6. Roger Staubach
5. Dan Marino
4. Drew Brees
3. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
1. Joe Montana

Ken Anderson at 13 makes sense?
Steve Young under Fran Tarkenton makes sense?
John Elway below Ken Anderson makes sense?
Joe Theisman above Jim Kelly and Bart Starr makes sense?

nigga you either have bad sense or you're trolling.

[ram29jackson]

20. Jim Kelly
19. Bart Starr
18. Joe Theismann
17. Terry Bradshaw
16. Kurt Warner
15. Dan Fouts
14. John Elway
13. Ken Anderson
12. Steve Young
11. Ken Stabler
10. Warren Moon
9. Brett Favre
8. Fran Tarkenton
7. Johnny Unitas
6. Roger Staubach
5. Dan Marino
4. Drew Brees
3. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
1. Joe Montana

Ken Anderson at 13 makes sense?
Steve Young under Fran Tarkenton makes sense?
John Elway below Ken Anderson makes sense?
Joe Theisman above Jim Kelly and Bart Starr makes sense?

nigga you either have bad sense or you're trolling.

are you black ? because I aint. Did you read the original post at all ? I didn't make the list. He points to what he calibrated. This is about individual stats not about your opinion about certain accomplishments....well, it sorta is LOL

but thanks for pointing those out because obviously the ultimate point is to spark some form of QB debate no matter how ridiculous or true it might be or which angle this guy chose

[buckeye]

the explanation from the guy who made the thread about only using Super Bowl era stats/players

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GrahOt00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...B/BaugSa00.htm

Many people would argue that Graham was better than Montana. Madden himself says that... Grahams 8 Championships support that. I'm not sure I'm willing to go that far but it isn't really a stretch to say it.

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[Hasselbeck]

they haven't played long enough

Like I said.. that's a weak excuse. Russell Wilson already has a Super Bowl victory under his belt and a career rating of 101. Aaron Rodgers has a career rating of 105 and a Super Bowl ring.

I'd take Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Colin Kaepernick and Cam Newton over a lot of these guys on the list

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Many people would argue that Graham was better than Montana. Madden himself says that... Grahams 8 Championships support that. I'm not sure I'm willing to go that far but it isn't really a stretch to say it.

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When did Madden say that ?
Madden has said many times Joe Montana is the GOAT. During Bradys record season he reiterates how this is the closest he's seen someone operate on Montana's level.

[buckeye]

When did Madden say that ?
Madden has said many times Joe Montana is the GOAT. During Bradys record season he reiterates how this is the closest he's seen someone operate on Montana's level.

This past year... on SiriusXM Radio

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