This weekend you will be introduced to MEGAREEM

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Works for me. I like real sports, not dudes who try to be the best at exercising.

you watch kids games actually

funny you talk about his nicknames and you have changed your user name like 5 times, maybe this one will stick

Remember when you got verbally owned buy Mike Tyson? Now that was some funny shit, I will never forget that

[Warner2BruceTD]

yeah, because I dont think Cain is one of the best in the world, or my top 2 P4P fighters are GSP and And1

Maybe you can make an updated P4P list and hopefully Brock (lol) wont be in it this time

We aren't talking about Cain or GSP or Silva or Brock, we are talking about Overeem.

Same resume, with UFC, you would be killing him. Say you wouldn't be. Go ahead.

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We aren't talking about Cain or GSP or Silva or Brock, we are talking about Overeem.

Same resume, with UFC, you would be killing him. Say you wouldn't be. Go ahead.

Well, for one, he is not in the UFC, 2nd, he wouldnt be able to fight in K-1 and win the WGP, so its a completely useless question

Alistair Overeem is the best HW 'Fighter' in the world

[Warner2BruceTD]

Well, for one, he is not in the UFC, 2nd, he wouldnt be able to fight in K-1 and win the WGP, so its a completely useless question

Alistair Overeem is the best HW 'Fighter' in the world

Nobody cares about kickboxing, but nice attempt at moving the goalposts.

Admit he is an overhyped MMA fighter, or justify his resume. Its one or the other. Do it rob.

[EmpireWF]

Overeem needs to fight better opponents to justify all the hype in MMA

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Nobody cares about kickboxing, but nice attempt at moving the goalposts.

Admit he is an overhyped MMA fighter, or justify his resume. Its one or the other. Do it rob.

I dont see your point, I dont think he is the number 1 ranked fighter in the world, I never said he was, I dont think he is even top 5 in terms of MMA rankings either, maybe right outside that, so you can just stop with that

But I believe he is the best HW 'fighter' in the world and would bet on him against anyone currently in MMA also

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also, why do you keep saying 'no one cares about kickboxing'?

I care, Shogun cares, BigPapa does to, a lot of fight fans care about K-1, just because you dont that means nothing to me

[EmpireWF]

In MMA, Cain, JDS, Fedor, Werdum, Brock and even Carwin can be ranked ahead of Overeem.

[Warner2BruceTD]

also, why do you keep saying 'no one cares about kickboxing'?

I care, Shogun cares, BigPapa does to, a lot of fight fans care about K-1, just because you dont that means nothing to me

Because in the context of MMA discussion, kickboxing means nothing. You always factor it in, its irrelevent.

[Bigpapa42]

I love K1. And I do think you take a fighters accomplishments into account to a small degree when you assess them as an MMA fighter. But its only to a small degree.

What Rob seems to be trying to do for Overeem should then be done across the board. And talking about a "fighter" without the context of a given sport becomes kinda meaningless. If this is how things were going to be done, then we should have been talking about Semmy Schilt as one of the best heavyweight "fighters" for a long time now - his MMA record is spotty, but he's more dominant at kick boxing than Overeem. Yet no one looks at this way, because it really doesn't make sense to, Rob.

We could also start talking about Nagashima as a top "fighter" because he's a good kickboxer who just KO'd a top-level MMA fighter in the MMA portion of their mixed fights.

[CrimsonGhost56]

so whats next for overeem?

werdum? fedor? barnett? random can?

id love to see him fight barnett.

[Liquidrob]

I love K1. And I do think you take a fighters accomplishments into account to a small degree when you assess them as an MMA fighter. But its only to a small degree.

What Rob seems to be trying to do for Overeem should then be done across the board. And talking about a "fighter" without the context of a given sport becomes kinda meaningless. If this is how things were going to be done, then we should have been talking about Semmy Schilt as one of the best heavyweight "fighters" for a long time now - his MMA record is spotty, but he's more dominant at kick boxing than Overeem. Yet no one looks at this way, because it really doesn't make sense to, Rob.

We could also start talking about Nagashima as a top "fighter" because he's a good kickboxer who just KO'd a top-level MMA fighter in the MMA portion of their mixed fights.

Semmy was one of the top fighters back in the day, still is in k1 terms, but never as well rounded overeem

You guys keep thinking I'm ranking overeem number 1 in mma, I'm not

[Liquidrob]

In MMA, Cain, JDS, Fedor, Werdum, Brock and even Carwin can be ranked ahead of Overeem.

Stop clinging to rankings, they are man made prisons, free your mind

[Warner2BruceTD]

Stop clinging to rankings, they are man made prisons, free your mind

Lol, you say this, but then have no problem debating for pages and pages on things like p4p and technical striking, which are 100% mythical and subjective. At least straight rankings are based on things that are somewhat tangible.

[SHOGUN]

I <3 The 'Reem, however, Rob's nuthugging is reaching levels similar to the Machida epidemic of 2008-09.