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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    #16
    Originally posted by dave
    IMO, Brock would be crazy not to want to take a Wrestlemania payday.
    Brock vs. The Undertaker a damn good main event, and Brock doesn't actually have to have his face punched in.
    Lesnar was a great pro wrestler and should get back on a part-time basis.
    I am not knocking MMA whatsoever, but Brock isn't a young guy anymore. Getting his faced kicked in for real is kinda stupid. Especially when you're more likely to make bigger money fake fighting.
    A few points.

    -It wouldnt be a match at WM, it would be a special ref or something similar.

    -He would stand to make far more in the UFC.

    -The way he left the first time, I cant see the WWE giving him a part time deal. They don't even like doing that for good "company" guys. Only Undertaker & HBK have really been given that kind of treatment. Brock was never a gigantic draw in wretsling like he was in UFC.

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    • dave
      Go the fuck outside
      • Oct 2008
      • 15492

      #17
      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
      A few points.

      -It wouldnt be a match at WM, it would be a special ref or something similar.

      -He would stand to make far more in the UFC.

      -The way he left the first time, I cant see the WWE giving him a part time deal. They don't even like doing that for good "company" guys. Only Undertaker & HBK have really been given that kind of treatment. Brock was never a gigantic draw in wretsling like he was in UFC.
      A special ref or something similar doesn't make it worth the WWE's time.

      Not really sure how much he makes in UFC, but I suspect it's not as much as he should.

      You don't think Lesnar was a huge draw in WWE? He was a main eventer pretty much on day one. And, now, he'd be absolutely huge and absolutely worth special treatment. His UFC stuff gives him credibility beyond belief, IMO.
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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #18
        Originally posted by dave
        A special ref or something similar doesn't make it worth the WWE's time.
        Even if he is somehow allowed to do it, Dana won't allow anything physical. The WWE knows this, but just having him on the show would add a lot of buys. Even if he doesnt wrestle.

        Originally posted by dave
        Not really sure how much he makes in UFC, but I suspect it's not as much as he should.
        He makes millions each fight. He probably makes well into six figures with sponserships alone. He'd make a lot less in the WWE, especially since he will never go back on the road. And it would be harder on him physically than fighting.

        Originally posted by dave
        You don't think Lesnar was a huge draw in WWE? He was a main eventer pretty much on day one. And, now, he'd be absolutely huge and absolutely worth special treatment. His UFC stuff gives him credibility beyond belief, IMO.
        Lesnar draws over a million PPV buys every time he fights. He is one of two men (Mike Tyson being the other) to draw two 1M+ buyrates in the same calendar year. He is arguably the third best PPV draw of all time as a MMA fighter (behind Tyson & De La Hoya, probably behind PBF too but its arguable).

        As a wrestler, he probably never even drew 500k (i'd have to look it up), and most definately never drew over a million. He was a top guy and main eventer, but was never the clear cut top guy or monster draw. Don't get me wrong, he was a solid main eventer. But "huge" is not a word I would use to describe his drawing ability. Austin was huge. The Rock was huge.

        I agree that he would be a bigger draw now, then he was before.

        None of this matters, he isnt going back.

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        • dave
          Go the fuck outside
          • Oct 2008
          • 15492

          #19
          Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
          As a wrestler, he probably never even drew 500k (i'd have to look it up), and most definately never drew over a million. He was a top guy and main eventer, but was never the clear cut top guy or monster draw. Don't get me wrong, he was a solid main eventer. But "huge" is not a word I would use to describe his drawing ability. Austin was huge. The Rock was huge.
          I don't mean to be argumentative here, but don't you think that has now changed thanks to his UFC career?
          Just curious.
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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26142

            #20
            Originally posted by dave
            I don't mean to be argumentative here, but don't you think that has now changed thanks to his UFC career?
            Just curious.
            Yes, I believe he would be a bigger draw in 2010 as opposed to 2002.

            And dont get me wrong, he was a good draw. Just not as good as people remember, or think they remember, due to his moster success in MMA in that regard.

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            • dave
              Go the fuck outside
              • Oct 2008
              • 15492

              #21
              I think a Brock-Undertaker WM would be great, but it only works if Brock breaks the streak.
              If he doesn't, there's no point to it.
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              • EmpireWF
                Giants in the Super Bowl
                • Mar 2009
                • 24082

                #22
                Originally posted by dave
                I think a Brock-Undertaker WM would be great, but it only works if Brock breaks the streak.
                If he doesn't, there's no point to it.
                Brock is not wrestling.


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                • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                  Highwayman
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 15429

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD



                  He makes millions each fight. He probably makes well into six figures with sponserships alone. He'd make a lot less in the WWE, especially since he will never go back on the road. And it would be harder on him physically than fighting.


                  He makes ~400K to show up. Then fight bonus could bring him near ~750K if he wins. That is before sponsorships and all that jazz. Considering he is basically just a guy who lives off the land, his expenses aren't too shabby...

                  Dude is living himself a good life. He doesn't have to do anything if he doesn't want to.

                  Rena is living in the back woods with him, so, while I'm sure she likes the finer things, I don't think she is over the top.

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                  • Warner2BruceTD
                    2011 Poster Of The Year
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 26142

                    #24
                    Don't forget his PPV cut, which is the biggest slice of the pie. What they announce to the athletic commission for legal purposes is just a formality. PPV cut isn't officially part of the purse, so they don't have to declare that publically.

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                    • Bigpapa42
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3185

                      #25
                      KILLING THE BROCK-WWE RUMORS ONCE AND FOR ALL

                      By Mike Johnson on 2010-12-29 18:45:27

                      UFC boss Lorenzo Fertitta killed any rumors of Brock Lesnar performing for WWE at Wrestlemania or anywhere else, commenting, "He's under exclusive contract with us" to The Los Angeles Times's Lance Pugmire.
                      UFC says no.

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