NHL Draft Day Thread

[Ravin]

The Seattle Coyotes select at #12, Max Domi from the London Knights.


Tie's son going to the south and this may be the only time they ever see him put on this jersey with the teams issue going on.

[1ke]

The Seattle Coyotes select at #12, Max Domi from the London Knights.


Tie's son going to the south and this may be the only time they ever see him put on this jersey with the teams issue going on.

One of the commentators said thus Simi uses his hands for good.....

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[1ke]

K so......rank em for me?

NCAA
KHL
OHL
WHL
????

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[Ravin]

K so......rank em for me?

NCAA
KHL
OHL
WHL
????

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Umm, I'll just do it this way.

KHL - Russians pro league. They take a lot of NHL talent who want to play in their home country, and when the lock out was on a lot of NHL guys went there. I would say it is probably just below the NHL in terms of overall skill.

WHL/OHL/QMJHL - These are all the Canadian Hockey Leagues. Hard to rate them in terms of who is best considering every year the first round pick normally comes from these places. Take for example the last five years starting from today's draft it has gone Mackinnon (QMJHL), Yakupov (OHL), Nugent-Hopins (WHL), Hall (OHL), Tavares (OHL).

NCAA - Doesn't get the same players the CHL does because if you play for the CHL you cannot play NCAA hockey. Plus it is a four year thing and players going that route are normally 22ish when they make the jump to the NHL starting at age 18, so by the time they reach NCAA they should be already drafted. Not to say players don't come out of that program, but it isn't to often that you see NCAA producing high picks of players.

USHL - This is the USA's Junior A program currently, and while it isn't as great as Canada's, it is starting to get there. Will still be a few years out from being any kind of competition, simply because right now American players know the CHL is the place to go to get noticed, plus the CHL plays more games. But it is a building program and will get there soon. Only Western Michigan's commit Michael McCarron who plays for the USTDP U-18 team was drafted in the first round of this years draft.

[1ke]

Thanks Ravin.

So the KHL is straight pros. Are there any restrictions for them coming over here to play?

And the CHL. Does it work like college in a sense except it's a semi pro league? Kid gets done with school, goes to play in the CHL for 1-3 years? Then he gets drafted and if good enough straight to the NHL.

And college seems to be doing the same thing to young hockey kids that it does to soccer players. Puts them behind the comp in terms of years? Forced to stay a minimum amount of years and such.

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[wingsfan77]

I was really hoping the Flyers would end up with Nurse or Ristolainen....don't know anything about Morin, but I'm glad they're taking a couple defensemen instead of forwards like usual.

[leaffan]

Been gone all day and missed most of the draft.

Pumped for the player the leafs took in Frederick Gauthier. The big center they want. Going to be a few years before they see him.

The Bolland trade was fantastic imo. All but spells the end for bozak now and the leafs get another pesky player in the most assholish division in the entire league.

Really liking the direction Nonis is going.

[Ravin]

Going to multi this to make it easier to answer it lal.

Thanks Ravin.

So the KHL is straight pros. Are there any restrictions for them coming over here to play?

KHL is straight pro. They have their own draft, they have massive money, and basically it is the same as the NHL, but just in Russia. There are some restrictions, but if a player from the KHL wants to play in the NHL, he has free reign, providing a team doesn't own his rights. If say a team drafts a russia and he plays in the KHL for a year, then wants to come to the NHL, the team that drafted him gets to sign him. No if a player wasn't drafted, or never signed an entry level contract, he is free to talk to whom ever he wants. At this point though, rare to see KHL guys who aren't drafted come to the NHL.

And the CHL. Does it work like college in a sense except it's a semi pro league? Kid gets done with school, goes to play in the CHL for 1-3 years? Then he gets drafted and if good enough straight to the NHL.

Kids start in the CHL at age 16. These kids are in high school still, and play until they are 20. They must always be in school, either high school or college/University. It's a rule they have. When they are ready to turn 18 they get drafted to the NHL. Some players like Yakupov, Hall, Hopkins for example, go straight to the NHL because they are that good. Then others drafted go back to their junior team. That is basically the vast majority of the team. The NHL team has 3 years to get them under a contract or they become free agents. But it is rare to see a guy not get a deal and then sign somewhere else without a good reason.

And college seems to be doing the same thing to young hockey kids that it does to soccer players. Puts them behind the comp in terms of years? Forced to stay a minimum amount of years and such.

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That is a huge debate right now, if kids should go the CHL route or the NCAA route. You have to be 18 to be in the NCAA (or rather, finished high school like normal.) And by the time, the majority of these kids have been drafted. It is a major reason the USA started the USHL to try and give a junior league to the americans so they were not always going to Canada. It's debatable if they are lower in value. Some GMs like the fact that these kids to to college, get an education, play hockey and when they come to the team at 21-22 years old, they are mature adults, not young kids. But then some don't like it because if they commit to play NCAA, some will skip the NHL for a couple years to go to school.

GM's like the CHL because they play 68 games a season, with full 4 rounds, best of seven playoff, where as college plays like 20 games. The CHL sets the kids up for the grind of an NHL season, including travel.

[Ravin]

The Bolland deal is sexy. I can see him on line three with Joe Colbourn for the start of a solid third line, maybe with Kulemen for a big tough line to play against.

Frederick Gauthier is an amazing prospect and the leafs will love him once he comes up. Their farm system is sick when you look at it.

[leaffan]

The Bolland deal is sexy. I can see him on line three with Joe Colbourn for the start of a solid third line, maybe with Kulemen for a big tough line to play against.

Frederick Gauthier is an amazing prospect and the leafs will love him once he comes up. Their farm system is sick when you look at it.

Its going to be David Clarkson, Bolland, Kulemin on the 3rd. Ahh yah

[leaffan]

4mil for 4 years for Bickell...

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