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2014 Olympic Hockey Teams Line up - Early Edition

Ravin

Dishing the Gino's
The 2014 games are a year away, and I've been looking over all the talent all the countries have to see who is going to have a good team. 2014 is going to be some young teams I think, and a lot of the 2010 team for Canada at least won't be making an appearance again due to age. I'm going to do line ups for a few countries just for fun to see what it turns out like. So to start, I'll go with Team Canada.


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Forwards
Scoring Line: Perry - Crosby - Stamkos
Stamkos got the snub in 2010 when many believed he should have made the team, but this time around, he will be right up on the front lines, and I can't see them not pairing him with Crosby. This issue with Canada right off the start is their over abundance of centre's, so a lot of them are going to be sitting on the wings, and I prefer Stamkos on the wing on the top line then on the second line behind Crosby. When you add Perry to the line, you basically have the 'Rocket Richard' line.

Depth Second line: Neal - Toews - Eberle
I think Toews has earned a spot on the roster after his performance in the 2010 tournament and moving to a second line centre role would be perfect for him. This line was actually the hardest to decide on because when you take out the 'San Jose Sharks' line of last year, you actually have to work on putting players together. I added Neal and Eberle to this line, as I think they will benefit from Toews as their pivot. Neal is able to put the puck in the net and is a big guy, and Eberle is well, Eberle. He brings so much to the table with his play, and I think if he doesn't make a line, he will be in the positon Toews was last time around as the 13th forward.

Grinder Line: E. Staal - Giroux - Nash
This will be Canada's third line checking line if you call it that. The energy line. It is why I put Giroux down on this line because I think he suits well for a Team Canada grinder. He has the ability to score goals and make plays, but can also beat players down, and with his emotional performance against the Penguins last season, if he brings that to the games, he will spark the team. I added Nash and Staal to the line as power forwards, and feel this could be just as dynamic as a scoring line.

Fourth Line: Marleau - Tavares - Skinner
If anyone 'older' returns from 2010, I think it will be Marleau, as he is still able to score and be a factor. Tavares slides into this 4th line spot, but this isn't your typical third line. I could see Tavares/Skinner doing what Toews/Morrow/Burgeron did in 2010, as most teams will focus their top on the Crosby line, leaving the 'weaker' lines to this one.

Defence
Weber, Letang, Pietrangelo, Keith, Doughty, Seabrook, Subban
Defence in my mind is really solid for Canada, and should have some good returning players. Letang I think easily makes the team, and with the way Pietrangelo has played, I think he does as well. Keith and Seabrook I think get brought back into the mix, depending on play and if anyone else steps up, and Weber and Doughty are locks to return. I added Subban as a 7th guy, as I am just a little iffy if he can crack this roster or not with the amount of talent on the team.

Goalies
Price, Fleury, Luongo
With how well Price has played the past two seasons, I think he may just be Canada's starter heading into Russia. Fluery isn't a homer pick, he got a gold medal in Vancouver for being Canada's third goalie, and I don't know if he gets out of the pressbox this time around either. Luongo is the wild card, as depending how he plays, he could still be a legit #1 for Canada next year. So I think the battle for that spot goes between him and Price, with Fleury picking up the third spot again.

Players not returning
Brodeur (age/retired), Pronger (retired), Boyle (age), Niedermayer (retired), Morrow (to much skill in front), Iginla (age), Richards (too much skill), Thornton (more of an age thing), Bergeron (just don't think so), Getzlaf (to much centre skill in front), Heatley (age/skill)

Players who could make it
Forwards- Duchene, Spezza, St. Louis, Sharp - There is a huge list that 'could' make a go at it. Spezza is still play at a high caliber, and St. Louis hasn't slowed down, but was left off the 2010 team, so hard for him to make it again, unless they make a St.louis/Stamkos pairing.
Defence - I think the defence is fairly set, and unless some young star comes in, or they give an older guy like Boyle a chance, that will be your defence unit.
Goalies - Mike Smith & Cam Ward - Smith is a long long shot, Ward just seems to be always the odd guy out. He could be changeable with Fleury, but I think his time has passed

So there is my list so far for Team Canada in Russia. Things will change, and this is just a very rough guess at lines, but more look at it in terms of the players involved, and not set in stone line ups.
 
Very nice list, again Canada's Achilles Heel will be in net. They got the job done last time with above average goaltending but it seems both the US and CND do not play well outside of NA. Last Olympic gold for Canada outside of NA is 1952 in Oslo, couple of silvers in the 90s. Both our teams have spotty records on those Euro rinks.
 
If they can keep the team young, I think things will change around. If you look at some of the latest Olympic teams for Canada when they didn't win gold, they were just filled with old players, or guys you just say "WTF are you there for". There is just so much elite talent in Canada that giving a shot to guys I cut just isn't an option. There time has come and go and it is time to bring in the next wave.

I'll do the USA team next, then look into Russia and the Euro teams. Those Euro teams should be interesting to look at.
 
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Forwards-

1st line - Ryan Callahan, Ryan Kesler, Zach Parise

2nd line - Phil Kessel, Joe Pavelski, Patrick Kane

3rd line - James Van Riemadyk, Paul Stastny, Drew Strafford

4th line - Dustin Brown, TJ Oshie, Ryan Malone

On the bubble - Max Pacioretty, Derek Stepan,Jason Pominville, Erik Cole, David Booth, Brandon Dubinsky, Chris Higgins, David Backes

Chris Kreider-
I am betting this kid makes the team but it's too hard to say right now, this is my gut feeling on this kid. I think he is going to be a beast.

Defense -

1st pairing - Ryan Suter, Jack Johnson
2nd pairing - Keith Yandle,
Kevin Shattenkirk
3rd pairing - [FONT=Verdana, Arial]Dustin Byfuglien, John Carlson[/FONT]

On the bubble -
Justin Faulk, Jake Gardenier, John-Michael Liles, Erik Johnson, Cam Fowler, Zach Bogosian, Nick Leddy, Alex Goligoski, Brooks Orpik, Nick Leddy, Ryan McDonagh

Goalies -

Jonathan Quick
Jimmy Howard
Cory Schneider

On the bubble[FONT=Verdana, Arial] - Tim Thomas, Ryan Miller, Craig Anderson[/FONT]

Team USA is extremely young, take Malone out of the picture and Ryan Kesler would be the oldest at 30 years old come Sochi. This is a speedy team, with some size and grit. Team USA's defense can run with any other countries defense excluding Team Canada. USA does lack down in the middle, plenty of scoring big sized tough wingers but not any true passing/set up centermen. Team USA's center are all mostly two way forwards with Kesler being the only true full time center. USA's strength come in net, we probably have the best trio in the world right now, other countries are close but we lead the way right now.

Prediction - bronze medal game, falling to CDN for 4th place.
 
Cool I'll be interested to see who you come up with compared to my Team USA. I can do Team Slovakia. I follow their league a little bit, for sentimental sake.
 
This will be a terrible attempt at picking a team since I don't follow the International scene that much. Just going based on NHL players I've seen.

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Forward

1 - Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Patric Hornquist
2 - Gabriel Landeskog - Henrik Zetterberg - Johan Franzen
3 - Loui Eriksson - Nicklas Backstrom - Alex Steen
4 - Patrik Berglund - Marcus Johansson - Mikael Backlund

Defense

1 - Erik Karlsson - Niklas Kronwall
2 - Victor Hedman - Alex Endler
3 - Tobias Enstrom - Oliver Ekman-Larsson

Goalie

Henrik Lundqvist, Jonas Gustavsson, Anders Lindback
 
Team USA looks to have improved big time from the prior Olympics. Plus you missed Bobby Ryan so it's even better at the top.
 
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Forwards
Line 1: Zach Parise - Ryan Kesler - Bobby Ryan
Parise is obvious captain of this team and the star US player, and Kesler is the #1 pivot on the team. Bobby Ryan just seems to always get put on the top line, and if memory serves me correct, this was a line back in 2010. I think it is a perfect balanced line, and is the line the team is most likely to run with.

Line 2: T.J. Oshie - Patrick Kane - Phil Kessel
As mentioned, USA's centre's are weak, and with Kane having some time at centre, I could see him going into this slot on this team. Oshie has made a claim to be on the second line, and would be a good fit. Kessel is the one player that should be here, but could easily be changed with Pominville. But since you know Burke will have a hand in USA, you know Kessel will be on the team some place.

Line 3: Dustin Brown - David Backes - Ryan Callahan
My USA grinder line. Call this the 'captains line' if you will. All are capable of scoring, but also to add that toughness the team will need to get by the tough teams like Canada and Russia should they need to. But also you get a line that won't give up under pressure. They are all use to being the main man on the team.

Line 4: Pacioretty - Joe Pavelski - Jason Pominville
All three have had solid years as of late, and I can't see any of them getting left off. The great thing is, you can move this line around as you need, depending on who is not performing. Pominville can take off Ryan or Kessel, while Pavelski could go up to help Kane out on faceoffs, freeing him up on the wing. So this line to me is pure depth and gives the USA a lot of different line combo's to make.

Defence
Suter, Byfuglien, Yandle, Shattenkirk, Orpik, Johnson
Suter and Buffy are obvious, and I think Orpik is an obvious pick as well, considering he adds that defensive dman role to the team, and he was there in 2010, so it isn't like he doesn't play well. Yandle and Shattenkirk I think are a given, but Johnson is the one guy I am not sold on making the team just yet. Clearly playing for the Jackets isn't going to raise his stock at all, but he may just get by on the fact that he is Jack Johnson.

Goalies
Jonathan Quick, Ryan Miller, Cory Schneider
So the job is Quick's to lose. That is the end of that talk. I think Ryan Miller will still kick around and be his back up, and Cory Schneider will be either the back up or the press box goalie. But that doesn't matter much since you know who your starting goalie is, and the only reason the back up will play is when USA plays like Latvia or something.

On the bubble
Forwards: Paul Stastny (injuries could hurt his chances), Drew Stafford (to many other names), Ryan Malone (again, to much talent),
Defence: Wisniewski, Lilies, Carlson, Gardiner (USA defence is solid, so I just think these guys will miss out)
Goalies: Howard, Anderson (I won't even give that fuck Thomas a bubble chance. Year off of hockey, 39 years old by the time the games come around. He has no chance at even cracking the team as the press box goalie. He will just turn into a distraction.)
 
We have a few changes on our Team USA. I just don't see James Van Riemadyk making the team. Year being hurt, and now on Toronto. I just don't think he will put up the numbers needed to get a quality look.

David Backes you left off your list, and I would say he is a for sure lock to make the team. Because St. Louis is such a defence first team he doesn't get the credit as the scorer, but he has it all, and would be a monster addition to the team. Kind of interesting that your entire third line I think will not make the team.
 
Team USA looks to have improved big time from the prior Olympics. Plus you missed Bobby Ryan so it's even better at the top.

Wow, I forgot Bobby Ryan, yikes. Swap Callahan with JVR and throw Ryan in the top line. I can't believe I left Ryan off.

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We have a few changes on our Team USA. I just don't see James Van Riemadyk making the team. Year being hurt, and now on Toronto. I just don't think he will put up the numbers needed to get a quality look.

David Backes you left off your list, and I would say he is a for sure lock to make the team. Because St. Louis is such a defence first team he doesn't get the credit as the scorer, but he has it all, and would be a monster addition to the team. Kind of interesting that your entire third line I think will not make the team.

I have Backes on the bubble. Only because the US is so deep on forwards. But I can see Backes beating out Malone. I choose Malone for his grit and I was doing the 4th line.

I have rational on Thomas, one, I don't think he makes the team nor do I want him on the team but...

Two, everytime the guy has been counted out, he somehow comes through smelling like roses. The guy is a fighter and has been his entire career, he released a crazy statement he wants to play in Sochi, given his past, if anyone can pull the unbelievable off in hockey, it's him.
 
Stamkos - Crosby - Marchand
You put Crosby with two goal scorers and in theory score a billion goals per game. Marchand's work rate gives the line a little extra balance.

Perry - Getzlaf - E. Staal
You want to keep Perry and Getzlaf together because that's how Anaheim rolls. Staal is playing a great two way game right now and that lines has a lot of versatility.

M. Richards - Toews - Nash
Why break up the line that won Gold in Vancouver? Richards a surprise inclusion but he adds a lot of extra benefits too.

Marleau - Tavares - Carter
Carter with two proper assist men, this line has the ability to dominate against the bottom 6 of the other nations.

Doughty - Weber
I think this is a good combo because you get Weber giving the line some defensive responsibility leaving Doughty to join the rush, but also with Weber's shot you want a good passer to put it in the wheelhouse.

Keith - Seabrook
Great combination with the familiarity of playing club hockey.

Staal - Letang
Like the Doughty/Weber line, Staal's presence let's the offensive dman get involved with the forwards.

Luongo - Price - Fleury
It's a battle between Luongo and Price and Fleury is just there to make up the numbers.

PP is obviously a plethora of options, but you also have enough PK options in this lineup too. Marchand, Staal, Richards, Toews and Nash can all play on the pk; you've got Staal on defence to eat up the majority of the minutes and Weber, Keith, Seabrook can be sheltered a little in that regard.
 
Stepan right now looks like he will be one of the first names on the roster when the time comes. Obviously playing with Nash is a huge aid to his point totals, but what you see watching games is a real trustworthy two way centre who is starting to made big contributions at both ends. He is the Rangers' best centre right now.
 
I just can't him making it because Canada already has to many centres. Crosby, Stamkos, Giroux, Getzlaf, Tavares, Staal, Toews, etc. Just don't see him making it onto this roster in a centre position if at all.
 
Derek Stepan ... Born in Minnesota. Played college hockey at Wisconsin. Has represented the USA twice at Junior level. I also can't see him playing for Team Canada.

Who is Derek Stepan?
 
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