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4th and 2 from your own 28, you're up by 6 and there's less than 2 minutes to go...

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Bear Pand

RIP Indy Colts
Dudes scared of Manning now apparently, complete reversal of how things used to be. No idea how you don't punt there regardless of how bad your defense is.

It's not like Indy had scored on every drive, they punted the ball 7 times and turned it over twice. How are you trying to run the clock out against the Colts and 3 out of 4 of the plays you call are passes?

Where's the defensive mastermind Manning stopper I used to know? :(
 
Yea, I was curious why he did that. Waiting for his press conference. I'm sure that question will arise.
 
As a Colts fan I will say this: I don't think it was an AWFUL call .. questionable sure, but 2 yards to go is a lot easier against us than it should be. I would have bet money they were going to get that.

Still should have punted though. They stopped us pretty consistently throughout the game, gotta trust your D one more time. Even against Peyton.
 
I would have gone for it to, but to throw it to faulk?

A inside run or quick throw to welker would have been better choices imo
 
Nukleopatra said:
If I'm coaching NE or Arizona, I go for it. I have two hall of famers under center, I don't think twice.
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What happened to your most "clutch QB of all time in the regular season"

Enjoy the wasted TO and failed 4th down?

Don't become a Manning hater on me
 
Killa Pand said:
Dudes scared of Manning now apparently, complete reversal of how things used to be. No idea how you don't punt there regardless of how bad your defense is.

It's not like Indy had scored on every drive, they punted the ball 7 times and turned it over twice. How are you trying to run the clock out against the Colts and 3 out of 4 of the plays you call are passes?

Where's the defensive mastermind Manning stopper I used to know? :(
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he doesnt have Ty Law or Asante Samuel any more
 
Archer said:
What happened to your most "clutch QB of all time in the regular season"

Enjoy the wasted TO and failed 4th down?

Don't become a Manning hater on me
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I'd probably go for it as Indy's coach, too.

If you can't count on your hall of fame quarterback, who can you count on?

There's only three guys I'd trust in that situation, Brady, Warner and Manning... and maybe Jay Cutler.
 
Nukleopatra said:
I'd probably go for it as Indy's coach, too.

If you can't count on your hall of fame quarterback, who can you count on?

There's only three guys I'd trust in that situation, Brady, Warner and Manning... and maybe Jay Cutler.
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I agree but I would have hoped (as a Colts fan) that Caldwell would choose to punt in that situation . Maybe it's because we have two pro bowl pass rushers ? I don't know ..... but I feel like you have to make them go 70 instead of 30 . If it was at the 50 I would have done it but not the 20-30 .

Maybe BB knew his guys were tired and done for on D? I don't know

Oh and lol @ the Jay Cuntler comment ;)
 
Josh.Johnson said:
First of all, this should be a moot point. It was clear as day the Patriots converted on the 4th and 2. The forward progress was clear beyond the 1st down marker. The ref marked Faulk at pretty much the line of scrimmage. Belichick will obviously take the heat for this call, but at least he had the balls to make it.

Belichick made a gutsy call. I liked it. I hate how far too often teams lose on a final drive because they punted it away and played it safe. Manning would most likely going to drive the 70 yards anyway with more than 2 minutes to go.
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I think it was the right call by the refs. Faulk bobbled the ball and by the time he got possession he was behind the line.
 
While I agree that it was a bad call, I wonder how much hate BB and Co. would be getting had that 4th and 2 worked meaning they would've ran the time out and won it?
 
Here's the reasoning why I think it wasn't a bad call -- it might not be right but I do like to have my own opinions:

-You have a hall of fame QB and WR, and your offense has not been stopped at all for most of the game. You either have to put the game in the hands of your HOF duo, or put it in the hands of an awful secondary. More importantly, a first down wins you the game. You put the game in your hands, and not hope that you can somehow stop Manning on four downs.

-Either way the Colts were going to be at the 30 yard line. There's no ifs/ands/buts about it... Manning moved the ball across the entire field in under two minutes the drive before, and the Patriots would end up being in prevent until the Colts got into the Patriots territory anyway. By allowing the Colts to start at the 30 you (should) at least give your offense a chance to come back for the game winning FG. However, Wilhite was a complete fucking idiot and made a "game saving tackle" at the 1 yard line.

-I don't get the "you have to trust your defense" logic. Why do you have to trust your defense, yet you can't trust your outstanding offense? Everyone in the world knew if the Colts were getting the ball back they were winning the game, yet everyone lol's when the Patriots tried to prevent that scenario.

With all of that said... if you know you are going for it on 4th down why you don't do two power runs on 3rd and 4th down is beyond me. A high risk out pattern to Welker, and then a curl to Faulk (kudos to Colts defensive coordinator for a surprising blitz play) was not the way to go about it.

Either way, it's just a week 10 game and this is not the end of the season for the Patriots. Making this into a big deal (like it will be) is pointless, considering both of these teams will be in the playoffs barring a horrible choke job by New England.

I also want to kill Wilhite for finally making a play on Joey Addai at the dumbest time.
 
Gonzo said:
While I agree that it was a bad call, I wonder how much hate BB and Co. would be getting had that 4th and 2 worked meaning they would've ran the time out and won it?
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People would have called it genius. If it works you are a hero if it doesn't you are an idiot, so BB will have to suck it up and just beat the fuck out of teams from now on.

Years of great coaching and Superbowls > making one bad play call in week 10 of a season
 
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