Are NFL coaches retarded?

[Tailback U]

I just don't understand how so many NFL coaches seem to be brain dead when it comes to putting their best players on the field.

Browns - Jamal Lewis was the starting HB for how long? No surprise here, though, considering who the HC is.

Chiefs - Refused to start Charles despite his YPC being much higher than LJ's over the last 2 seasons. Finally they are starting to see just how good Charles is even though he's been on the team for 2 friggin' years.

Cowboys - I give them a break here because they knew how talented he was, but still, how do you start Patrick Crayton over a physical specimen like Miles Austin?

Texans - Slaton, Moats, Brown, Foster...It's pretty obvious Kubiak has no fucking clue about what to do when it comes to the running game.

Seahawks - Justin Forsett is much better than Julius Jones but the Seahawks continue to start and give more carries to Jones for whatever reason.

I just don't understand how you can watch guys with your own very eyes through minicamp and preseason and not recognize their talent and ability.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The same reason HC's don't go for more on 4th down, bend over backwards to achieve playcalling balance (and its mythical benefits), and revert into super conservative mode in almost any pressure situation--fear of media reaction, and thus job security.

In almost all of the cases you mentioned, bigger name players (thus the safer, "dont stick your neck out" options) came out of camp with the starting job.

Starting the proven veteran, such as Larry Johnson, is the safe & conventional approach. Its what coaches have been doing for decades. When you want to replace a veteran, you cut him. You dont dare sit him, for fear of media backlash. Especially if the new starter fails.

Head coaches arent retarded, they just have no balls and fear media scrutiny.

 

[Tailback U]

You're absolutely right, I didn't even think of that aspect because it just never even occurred to me even though it's obvious.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Not to mention the uncomfortable conversation you have to have with the owner, who just signed said established name to a multi year multi million $ deal, explaining to him that the 4th round pick making the league minimum will be getting the carries.

 

[Tailback U]

Not to mention the uncomfortable conversation you have to have with the owner, who just signed said established name to a multi year multi million $ deal, explaining to him that the 4th round pick making the league minimum will be getting the carries.

Yeah but that shouldn't matter at all. If I'm a head coach, I'm telling the owner and everyone else that we got a 4th rounder who is better than our 1st rounder and needs to see the field more if we want to win. End of story, period.

Obviously, like everything else (because of the media and being PC), it's not that easy.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I don't understand T.O.'s

In all respect, I am clueless about managing an NFL game obviously.

But case in point was the Vikes a couple weeks ago.

They are down by a TD inside the final 2 minutes of the game. They get down to the opponets 7 (was it the Bears?) and then immediately calling a TO, stopping the clock at 1:42 or so. Why call that TO? They can't get another first down. Why not kill clock at that time? They have 1:42 or less to get 7 yards in 4 plays. Why call the TO and stop the clock?

I remember watching the Giants a few weeks ago also in a similiar situation. They called TO's inside 2 minutes and close to the endzone without killing time, and then they ended up leaving enough time on the clock for the Eagles to come back and score and they did.

I've never understood why coaches call TO's to stop the clock with around 1:30 left in a half next to the goal line. At least let the placy clock run down to 1 to kill some time before calling the TO.

I dont recall watching either of those situations unfold, but i'm betting in both cases, the purpose of the TO was to get the right play called, as opposed to stopping the clock.

 

[Tailback U]

Don't forget Miami playing Pat White instead of letting Thigpen come in when Henne was hurt.

Yeah that was ridiculous.

Also, Miami's first drive of the 2nd half was absolutely awful. I can't even remember what exactly happened but I remember they put together a terrible series after getting the ball to open up the 2nd half with a chance to tie the game.

 

[Goober]

'McGenius' benching arguably his two best offensive players in the most important game of the season.

Let's not rehash this again.

1) Marshall basically said himself he wasn't going to play before McDaniels made any decision.

2)Brian Dawkins, and Champ Bailey and the captains discussed with McDaniels the situation with Scheffler that there was problems with his attitude and asked McDaniels to take a hard stance with the situation.

If guys like Brian Dawkins and Champ Bailey are behind McGenius, lets not sit here and pretend we think they are idiots.

This.

 

[Bear Pand]

Jim Caldwell leaving Wayne/Clark/Manning in just so they could all hit 100 receptions. Force feeding Wayne and Clark with a bunch of bubble screens, inside screens, shovel passes and lining up Dallas Clark at RB for swing passes. All that on a bad snowy field after they stressed how important avoiding injury is.

 

[steeljake]

Jim Caldwell leaving Wayne/Clark/Manning in just so they could all hit 100 receptions. Force feeding Wayne and Clark with a bunch of bubble screens, inside screens, shovel passes and lining up Dallas Clark at RB for swing passes. All that on a bad snowy field after they stressed how important avoiding injury is.

this. you really gonna tell me that a perfect season isnt a goal but contract accelerators and individual records are? i hope thet colts lose to the jets in the afc championship game.

 

[1ke]

Dont forget Devin Aromashadu. Cutler lobbied to keep this guy on the team at the end of pre-season, then they have him incative for 13 games.

 

[godspeed]

Don't forget Miami playing Pat White instead of letting Thigpen come in when Henne was hurt.

Don't think that had anything to do with who was better, rather then who knows the offense better.

Miami looked to include White as part of the offense from the beginning with special packages, and he was with the team for camp and pre-season.

Thigpen joined the fish in early October, so he's really only been with the team a few months, so I can see why the scenario probably played out. Thigpen was also relying on that wristband alot, but alot of backup guys do.

Although I kind of like Thigpen's game, and would probably go with him over White.

My guess is they were probably more comfortable with White for whatever reason.

 

[1ke]

My bad....edit

 

[Hasselbeck]

Completely agree with Omar/Tailback about Forsett. It's one of the 1000 reasons why I hate Jim Mora and Greg Knapp.

 

[Sven Draconian]

I just don't understand how so many NFL coaches seem to be brain dead when it comes to putting their best players on the field.

Browns - Jamal Lewis was the starting HB for how long? No surprise here, though, considering who the HC is.

Chiefs - Refused to start Charles despite his YPC being much higher than LJ's over the last 2 seasons. Finally they are starting to see just how good Charles is even though he's been on the team for 2 friggin' years.

Cowboys - I give them a break here because they knew how talented he was, but still, how do you start Patrick Crayton over a physical specimen like Miles Austin?

Texans - Slaton, Moats, Brown, Foster...It's pretty obvious Kubiak has no fucking clue about what to do when it comes to the running game.

Seahawks - Justin Forsett is much better than Julius Jones but the Seahawks continue to start and give more carries to Jones for whatever reason.

I just don't understand how you can watch guys with your own very eyes through minicamp and preseason and not recognize their talent and ability.

Did you ever think that maybe, possibly that is actually true...and the little spurts you see of players are really a true representation of their talent?

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

w2b is right.

I will add some players don't look the same in practice as they do in games. Some guys don't get the benefit of practicing with first teamers thus have an uphill battle during the season.
Cowboys were high on Austin but he dropped some passes in practice and had guys like Brad Johnson throwing to him in a complicated deep pass offense.
That and Crayton actually has glue for hands in practice.

But at the end of the day it comes down to Balls and Money.
Thats why I loved Coughlin going ahead and benching Usi. His DC was gutless so he went ahead and did it to send a message.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Because how many times have back ups gotten the starting spot, and ended up just not cutting it because they now are being depended on?

Look at Welker. Do you think he could be a #1 receiver in Cleveland?

Just because they look good coming off the bench doesn't mean they can carry a team.