Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
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"Around The Cage" Vol. 1 - Dana sending fake numbers to media?
- Thread starter Warner2BruceTD
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lol @ the first story, Iole is a huge shill than you talk about Meltzer and his 'accurate numbers' which can't be verified
Meltzer's 'numbers' are based on 'trending' and ratings of preview shows, they are fairy tales. How could something be called 'accurate' if you can't verify it at all?
anyway, Overeem does not like Werdum, he should say he is number 1, but won't, agreed that is a mistake, you always talk up the guy you're fighting he it helps your standing in the sport
Meltzer's 'numbers' are based on 'trending' and ratings of preview shows, they are fairy tales. How could something be called 'accurate' if you can't verify it at all?
anyway, Overeem does not like Werdum, he should say he is number 1, but won't, agreed that is a mistake, you always talk up the guy you're fighting he it helps your standing in the sport
After every UFC I could give you a number within 50,000k of what Meltzer will report, is it really that hard?
Oh, I forgot, he has 'sources' which is funny because he had zero info on Shark Fights or Shine fights, nothing on Affliction that is accurate either, funny he only has PPV info on UFC and the WWE
Oh, I forgot, he has 'sources' which is funny because he had zero info on Shark Fights or Shine fights, nothing on Affliction that is accurate either, funny he only has PPV info on UFC and the WWE
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
c'mon rob, not this shit again.
His estimates always fall in line with the cable industry numbers, in fact his came in lower this time. He's been tracking PPV numbers for decades, longer than anyone in the business, he's legit and deep down you know that.
And why Overeem would say someone other than one of the 7 other guys in the GP field is #1 is beyond my understanding. I'd be fuming if I was Coker.
EmpireWF
Giants in the Super Bowl
Rob doesn't get Meltzer.
Before PPVs, he bases his OPINION on hype and how well the preview show does.
After the PPV, he'll base an estimate on trending data (which is usually reliable).
At some point, weeks after the PPV, he'll get a more reliable number from sources within the PPV industry and within the UFC.
Before PPVs, he bases his OPINION on hype and how well the preview show does.
After the PPV, he'll base an estimate on trending data (which is usually reliable).
At some point, weeks after the PPV, he'll get a more reliable number from sources within the PPV industry and within the UFC.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
He had the Affliction numbers, and I don't remember speciafically about the other two, but when something comes in very low, he usually doesnt bother tracking and just says it was under 50k under 20k or wherever it falls (TNA PPV's for example). That was the case with Shamrock/Baroni, which if I remember correctly did 35k, which was a massive success for no TV promotion.
CrimsonGhost56
True Blue
:fedor: @ warner and rob bickering over meltzer again. get over it ladies
good article btw
good article btw
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
Also, his WWE estimates are always spot on, and those have to be released by the WWE because they are a public company. He gets them right within a few thousand weeks before WWE gives the number. Just give him credit, he knows what he's talking about.
The Reem fights for himself, doesnt care about that stuff at all
Once the tournament is over (if he wins it), he should call out Cain right after the fight and tell Dana/The UFC don't be scared and lets make a co-promotion fight happen 'for the fans'
Surprised it has happened yet with Diaz or Gil
CrimsonGhost56
True Blue
:fedor:
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
There is no such thing. Anyone who puts them together has to gather the info on their own.
Usually geographic locations will follow the same trends show after show, that's how he does it.
When the independant cable numbers come in, he's almost always right near the number.
Warner is one of my favorite posters on the net, but him basing an article off of Meltzer and his 'numbers' is just plain silly
It's like the Easter Bunny trying to tell people to believe in Santa Claus
EmpireWF
Giants in the Super Bowl
Yeah, I wouldn't want my guys calling out fighters from other promotions. Why? It makes YOUR promotion look weak, as if there's nobody they care to fight.
It looked weak when years ago Jake Shields talked about fighting GSP after winning a fight.
It similarly looked weak when Gil Melendez would talk about himself only being a #3 or top 5 lightweight...instead of the best lightweight because he had respect for Penn and Edgar.
Strikeforce guys should focus on their own shit and worry about making fights that can actually happen.
Because while you would have Overeem call out Cain and Diaz call out GSP...they're too busy headlining shows doing six figure buyrates (if not more), rolling in the cash.
Don't be TNA. Make yourself look like gold and maybe others will believe it.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
Everyone in the industry - wrestling, boxing, and MMA - turn to him and trust him for the numbers. If his estimates ended up being way off, nobody would use his numbers anymore. McMahon, HBO, King, White, everybody goes to him. He clearly knows what he's doing. Stop being in denial, and just be glad we have someone willing to do the geek work to get the figures, because the promoters would either feed us bullshit or not reveal anything.
Dana White is telling people 1 mil, that is a perfect example. Thanks to Meltzer that nonsense gets squashed.
It serves a purpose, it puts the ball in The UFC's court and makes it show they don't want to put together the fight for the fans
GSP actually talked up Shields before he even left, but UFC fans and media had toilet paper in there ears
Overeem will be number 1 when it's over and calling out the UFC's 'business model' will turn heads, maybe the fans and media will jump on board and push for it
GSP actually talked up Shields before he even left, but UFC fans and media had toilet paper in there ears
Overeem will be number 1 when it's over and calling out the UFC's 'business model' will turn heads, maybe the fans and media will jump on board and push for it
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
Overeem (or whoever) can call out Cain in a classy way, and it will come off looking good. If it's lame trash talk, it looks bad because it will look like grandstanding.
Why would King, HBO, White, Vince 'go to him' for anything? That makes no sense, they now how much money they will make and end up getting, having a pro wrestling blogger as a source does nothing for them
EmpireWF
Giants in the Super Bowl
1. Show me when GSP used critical PPV/TV time (when all eyes are on him) to talk about any non-UFC fighter.
2. Nobody is forcing the UFC to copromote. Pride fucked them over and they've decided to never do it again. Get over it.
3. Yeah, because showing us "who doesn't want to book the fight" means anything. Does anyone even care about the whole Bellator/Strikeforce bitchfest about Melendez and Alvarez? Hell no, that's yesterdays news and frankly, both sides came off looking like assholes.
Just focus on making your own product better. Can't stress that shit enough.
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