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Bears "not inclined" to franchise Cutler

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Josh McCown has played well -- better than expected, at the very least -- as he's relieved Jay Cutler as Bears quarterback while Cutler recovers from a hamstring injury. He's played well enough, in fact, that there are whispers that perhaps the team shouldn't be so quick to give Cutler back his starting job when he's ready to return.

While that premise is slightly strange, McCown's performances in his past six games -- where he's thrown nine touchdowns against just one interception while putting up a quarterback rating of 103.6 -- has left people wondering the state of the impending free agency of Cutler, whose contract expires after this season and who seemingly is not in any kind of serious negotiations with Chicago.

And to make matters more interesting, Bears general manager Phil Emery said in an online Q&A, via the Chicago Tribune, that he's not inclined to franchise tag Cutler for 2014.

"The franchise tag for the quarterback position has unique challenges because the average comes out to be such a big portion of your cap and your total money available to spend on other players to acquire to help your team," Emery said.

"With the franchise tag being so high for the quarterback position, to use it and not sign the individual to a long-term deal hurts the team because you lose the ability to prorate the amount of guaranteed salary over the length of the contract. Proration lowers the salary cap number in relation to that player's contract. Obviously the lower the number in relation to the salary cap, the more players you can sign to help your team reach its goals."

The Bears have said since the beginning of the season that they're not going to negotiate until after the year is complete.

As CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora wrote in September, "Based on a $127 million cap projection, the quarterback non-exclusive tag amount would be $16.2M, according to sources. No talks are scheduled and, if/when the sides do sit down, look for Dallas quarterback Tony Romo ($18 million a year on his recent extension) and Matt Stafford ($15.3M per year on his new deal) to be names who would come up in negotiations. Should the Bears have a playoff run similar to what Joe Flacco pulled off in the final year of his deal with Baltimore last year, then the number would obviously go higher."

Unfortunately for Cutler, his team probably won't make the postseason and he's been injured for a major portion of the calendar for the second time in three years. Cutler played well in coach Marc Trestman's system, but at this point, you have to wonder if the Bears even want Cutler back for 2014 and beyond. Especially since a number of important Bears players are in the last year of their contracts and since the current deals for Brandon Marshall and Lance Briggs end after 2014.

One possible option, from the mind of La Canfora:

"McCown is a football journeyman. But in an era of escalating quarterback salaries, with a guru like Trestman to coach them up, take the opportunity to save $10 million or more a year at the position and invest those assets into other positions of need (like an aged defense with a bunch of impending free agents). I know this much, Trestman has told some people he sees a lot of Rich Gannon in McCown, and Gannon too was a late bloomer who ended up with Trestman in Oakland and had some record-breaking seasons and reached a Super Bowl. For a franchise as traditionally frugal as the Bears, I don't think you can minimize the financial factors in this at all."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...nclined-to-give-jay-cutler-2014-franchise-tag

While I think comparing McCown and Gannon is a stretch, Cutler being injured again is something telling. At some point, you have to move on, and investing $15 million plus in cap space for an injury risk at the biggest position isn't the smartest thing you can do.

Emery and Trestman can likely get away with this too, as this is not the QB that either of them chose to lead the Bears. They just have to make certain they have the right guy moving forward if they move on from Cutler.
 
No chance in hell I franchise or give a long-term lucrative deal to Jay Cutler. Good quarterback? No doubt. Has he ever won a playoff game?

Bears should go with McCown and a developmental QB next year ... unless Cutler is willing to take a big discount on a one-year deal.
 
Cutler was done the second the starting qb threw a franchise record to a dude not named Marhsall.
 
No chance in hell I franchise or give a long-term lucrative deal to Jay Cutler. Good quarterback? No doubt. Has he ever won a playoff game?

Bears should go with McCown and a developmental QB next year ... unless Cutler is willing to take a big discount on a one-year deal.

He has won a playoff game, but it should be noted it came against the 7-9 Seahawks.

He's not worth big money IMO. I think the Bears should roll with McCown and draft someone. They can use that cap money to shore up a pretty bad defense that's nowhere near the Bears defenses of old.
 
Million dollar arm and a ten cent brain. Good riddance.

Cutler will never get you to the promised land. He's got a knack for fucking up at the most inopportune of times.

Trestman is supposed to be a QB guru and this year's class is loaded. Take a shot at one of the mid-round guys and start rebuilding this team with youth.

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Million dollar arm and a ten cent brain. Good riddance.

Cutler will never get you to the promised land. He's got a knack for fucking up at the most inopportune of times.

Trestman is supposed to be a QB guru and this year's class is loaded. Take a shot at one of the mid-round guys and start rebuilding this team with youth.

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I get the premise of what your thinking, but saying ten cent brain is wrong. He has not had the same staff to work with since his Denver days. Now that's no excuse, but it sure fucking doesn't help learning a new offense every single off-season. Attitude would be a bit more fitting.

I don't know what he is. But, fact is, under Trestman, Jay is on pace to have is best season as a Bear abd the best since his pro bowl season. And before he got hurt, the Bears had a winning record.

I do not want them to tag him, but I do want him re signed. Reasonable money for security a the most important position in the sport, all while taking a QB in the middle rounds to be the future. I see nothing wrong with that.
 
I get the premise of what your thinking, but saying ten cent brain is wrong. He has not had the same staff to work with since his Denver days. Now that's no excuse, but it sure fucking doesn't help learning a new offense every single off-season. Attitude would be a bit more fitting.

I don't know what he is. But, fact is, under Trestman, Jay is on pace to have is best season as a Bear abd the best since his pro bowl season. And before he got hurt, the Bears had a winning record.

I do not want them to tag him, but I do want him re signed. Reasonable money for security a the most important position in the sport, all while taking a QB in the middle rounds to be the future. I see nothing wrong with that.

Trestman is the QB guru, you don't need to pay Cutler. You'll get production out of a draftee.
 
Trestman is the QB guru, you don't need to pay Cutler. You'll get production out of a draftee.

That nay very well be true, but it also depends on what Emery wants to do with the team. There are only 6 players on the defense right now who have a contract next year. And the defense is awful, so that needs to.be fixed. That's 2 DT a LB and 2 CBs that they need on defense alone. This team is in a very strange spot. So many holes.

With the teams condition, is rather sure up the QB spot with Jay as cheap as possible, and fill in the rest of the holes. That's just me tho...
 
That nay very well be true, but it also depends on what Emery wants to do with the team. There are only 6 players on the defense right now who have a contract next year. And the defense is awful, so that needs to.be fixed. That's 2 DT a LB and 2 CBs that they need on defense alone. This team is in a very strange spot. So many holes.

With the teams condition, is rather sure up the QB spot with Jay as cheap as possible, and fill in the rest of the holes. That's just me tho...

Drafted QB will be much cheaper than anything you will need to pay Cutler, so put that money in the D and roll with it.

Look at Seattle, they bolstered their D cause smuggle Wilson making peanuts.

Time to move on, cut the cord bro, it's over.
 
Drafted QB will be much cheaper than anything you will need to pay Cutler, so put that money in the D and roll with it.

Look at Seattle, they bolstered their D cause smuggle Wilson making peanuts.

Time to move on, cut the cord bro, it's over.

Lol. One problem, what are the chances the Bears find themselves a smug Russ? Not great. Well see what happens, I don't think there is one right answer for this.
 
I think people forget about the incredibly terrible history of QB'ing the Chicago Bears have had...before Cutler, perhaps the worst QB situation for well over 20 years. They were rotating bum quarterbacks numerous times per year for many years.

I'm not saying they should keep Cutler because they probably can't do better, but I'd side with caution on this one. Maybe franchise him and also draft a QB and make your decision next year.

Go out and draft a Mettenberger or Morris...someone with a big arm. Franchise Cutler. Re-evaluate next year while you have all the bodies on the field.
 
Trestman is the QB guru, you don't need to pay Cutler. You'll get production out of a draftee.

Maybe production out of the current backup. But I wouldn't count on production out of a QB draftee. Especially if you don't have a top draft pick. The Russel Wilson's are hard to find or every team would have one.
 
Drafted QB will be much cheaper than anything you will need to pay Cutler, so put that money in the D and roll with it.

Look at Seattle, they bolstered their D cause smuggle Wilson making peanuts.

Time to move on, cut the cord bro, it's over.

While true, hitting on a Russell Wilson (or even Nick Foles who came in Round 3 as well) is rare. For every Russell Wilson and Nick Foles out there, there are also Colt McCoy's.. Stephen McGee's and the like.

But yes, the Bears need to draft someone and soon. The 2014 crop has a lot of guys that COULD be very good quarterbacks. A guy like Derek Carr would be a great fit in the Trestman offense IMO.
 
Nevermind Jay, Trestman himself shouldnt even be here next year. Would love to have him on as a QB coach, but his decision making has been god awful week after week. Team has some good pieces in place in Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett and Forte, Josh can be a stop gap between Jay and a good young QB.
 
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Nevermind Jay, Trestman himself shouldnt even be here next year. Would love to have him on as a QB coach, but his decision making has been god awful week after week. Team has some good pieces in place in Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett and Forte, Josh can be a stop gap between Jay and a good young QB.

My manz, did you just say you want McCown as a full time starter for a season as a stop gap?
 
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