Chicago Bulls projected to draft Williams & Thronton

[MRN]

Ehh, I would rather take one SG, and a big man. We need someone who posts up, and does the hard work in the paint, right now we are soft with the big men.

 

[SuperNova854]

yuo guys dont have a 2nd round pick. Only the 16th and the 26th. I say you guys get James Johnson and then Taj Gibson.

 

[FirstTimer]

Like I said last week. I have an odd feeling the Bulls will take Hansbrough at #26 and Williams IMO would be a good pick at #16. Not sure he will last that long though.

 

[FedEx227]

I've said it for about 2 years now that the Bulls would draft Hansbrough. He fits into their stupid idea of what a good player is.

Someone that won in college, tries hard, blah blah blah.

The day they draft Hansbrough will bring a temporary freeze on my Chicago Bulls fandom.

 

[FedEx227]

In what way would Hansbrough be awesome? Being a career ass slapper and bench screamer.

 

[FedEx227]

He'll add a tad of "absolutely no NBA position" and ridiculously undersized frontcourt player who cannot withstand the physical rigors of the NBA.

I really, really hope the Bulls don't draft him.

 

[LC AAU]

Bulls got Hansbrough in my chise :shifty:

They need to get a big and another guard. I say Mullens first if he's there then Thorton.

 

[FedEx227]

Exactly. We would be a god damn laughing stock of fire and passion and bad.

 

[FirstTimer]

In what way would Hansbrough be awesome? Being a career ass slapper and bench screamer.

Ok. I know Hansbrough might not be a prototypical player for the NBA and his potential and ceiling is low but calling a 4 time All-American and leading scorer in the ACC a "career ass slapper" and "bench screamer" is beyond absurd.

 

[FirstTimer]

Hansbrough may never be an elite NBA'er but I've noticed that he does have game. I think he'll be a solid contributer in the post, probably average 12-16 minutes a game and provide a boost off the bench grabbing boards, dropping buckets. He does have a knack of getting to the line so I don't doubt that he could provide a boost there late in games when teams need free throw shooters.

I want to know what a Tarheel-only fan thinks of Hansbrough's shot at the NBA. Living where I live, I've been offered plenty of opportunities to see him play the last three years but I tend to reduce my sports watching after the football season ... that is until I can build me my man-cave.

I don't expect a ton from Hansbrough bt I feel like he could be a solid 7th guy for a championship team and frankly on the Bulls he could start at PF if Tyrus Thomas continues his up and down play. Hansbrough could be a solid NBA guy and a great role player. He'll never be an All-Star but I also don't think he'll be worthless either.

 

[FedEx227]

Ok. I know Hansbrough might not be a prototypical player for the NBA and his potential and ceiling is low but calling a 4 time All-American and leading scorer in the ACC a "career ass slapper" and "bench screamer" is beyond absurd.

One of the biggest knocks on Hansbrough is his inability to withstand bigger, more athletic players guarding him.

That is the NBA in a nutshell.

The dude has no position, he'll be eaten alive by top-tier PF and you can't even consider moving him to SF.

Great, he was an All-American and a leading scorer in college, how many examples do we need that those aren't 100% translations? He got by largely in college by using his size, that assest will not be around in the NBA. I wouldn't call him worthless, but to expect anything more than 10-12 minutes and a few points here and there is absurd.

These are via NBADraft.net and professional scouts:

Weaknesses:
At 6’ 8’’ Hansbrough lacks ideal size for the NBA PF position ... Struggles defending taller and more athletic players even at the college level ... Not athletic enough to overcome his size disadvantage to be a standout at the next level ... Needs to develop face-up game ... Hansbrough overpowers most of the players at the college level and will not be able to do the same in the NBA. Scores most of his baskets on sheer will and hustle, lacking a great skill level in the post ... Defensively he struggles to stay in front of quicker and more athletic players outside paint ... His ball handling is a big question at the next level (more than 2 dribbles often results in a TO). His jump-shot is unnatural and needs work as well as his shooting motion ... His footwork and lateral-quickness needs improvement ... Though he has improved his range, Hansbrough has to become a more consistent outside shooter ...

To me those ones bolded are enough to show he won't make it at the next level. You can take all the All-American nominations, bleeding and hustle you want... it's not going to allow you to overcome just a completely new level of athleticism in a league predicated largely on athletes. His strengths are largely rah-rah stuff with absolutely nothing tangible. There's a reason he's fallen tremendously on most scouts boards and why 26-27 other teams are going to pass on him.

How is Hansbrough going to guard the likes of Dirk, Bosh, Gasol, Granger, Garnett, Jamison, Lewis and Aldridge?

Most scouts are giving him the NBA comparisons of an Eduardo Najera or a Mark Madsen and I think that's perfect. He'll come off the bench give you some great hustle minutes but you'll never get consistent offense from him.

 

[FirstTimer]

One of the biggest knocks on Hansbrough is his inability to withstand bigger, more athletic players guarding him.

That is the NBA in a nutshell.

The dude has no position, he'll be eaten alive by top-tier PF and you can't even consider moving him to SF.

I never said I expected much from him at the NBA level. Nothing more than a role player. In fact the highest compliment I gave him was that he "wouldn't be worthless".

The only reason he'd start for the Bulls is because their post players suck. Who's going to hold him back? Noah, Thomas, Old Brad Miller?


What the fuck are you even arguing?


You: Hansbrough was a career ass slapper/bench screamer in the NBA

Me: Absurd since he was a 4 time AA and AC all-time scoring leader. I'm sure he never saw tall athletic guys in the ACC. In any case, he will be serivable as a role player and not worthless.

You: Long diatribe on how Hansbrough won't be able to matchup as a starter in the NBA, but then you say he won't be anything more than a role player/not worthless. Essentially coming to the same conclusion as me.....even though you spent an entire post trying to disagree with me.

 

[FedEx227]

I don't know about you but I consider Eduardo Najera and Mark Madsen pretty damn worthless. Madsen was a somewhat serviceable role player in his early years but has been relegated to ass-slapping.

I just know this is a draft full of role players and I think a lot of them have a chance to be a lot better than Hansbrough ever will be.

Yes, you're team needs role players but I wouldn't attempt to draft for that, I'd attempt to draft guys that have ceilings, to me what you see is what you get with Hansbrough. I don't see any growth or anything. That's my only argument. Would he be serviceable? Probably. I would want a little bit better from the Bulls because I think they are only a few players away from being a pretty damn good team.

 

[FirstTimer]

I don't know about you but I consider Eduardo Najera and Mark Madsen pretty damn worthless.

You just said you wouldn't call him worthless. So which is it?

It's a shitty draft. Who will the Bulls find at the end of the 1st Rd worth a shit?

 

[FedEx227]

I said he'll come off the bench and give you great hustle minutes. That's kinda tounge-in-cheek because I think that's overall pretty worthless to an NBA team. Hustle can only get you so far. Hustle can get you a few rebounds in garbage time and maybe a couple trips to the line every few games or so, but overall he is not contributing much to an NBA team ala Najera and Madsen.

I think we're kinda arguing the same point. I didn't mean for my posts to be a direct argument of yours I'm just kind of arguing Hansbrough in general.

 

[FirstTimer]

I wouldn't call him worthless, .

I said he'll come off the bench and give you great hustle minutes. That's kinda tounge-in-cheek because I think that's overall pretty worthless to an NBA team. Hustle can only get you so far. Hustle can get you a few rebounds in garbage time and maybe a couple trips to the line every few games or so, but overall he is not contributing much to an NBA team ala Najera and Madsen.

That remains to be seen but let's be honest though as well. Hansbrough was a much better basketball player in college than eitehr Najera or Madsen was. So that can be taken into account as well.

I think we're kinda arguing the same point. I didn't mean for my posts to be a direct argument of yours I'm just kind of arguing Hansbrough in general.

I'm not a huge fna of the guy but I also think too many people jumped on the "F*ck Hansbrough* bandwagon real quick and are ignoring the fact that the kid played in the toughest conference in college basketball and pretty much had his way for 4 years against bigger stonger and more athletic guys. Will he have that type of success in the NBA? No. But I also think that he has a chance to be a very solid role player on an NBA Team for a number of years if the situation is right.

 

[Mogriffjr]

Hans will be worthless....there I said it.

 

[RainboUnicorn]

I <3 Tyrus. I don't like the idea of drafting Hansbrough