Cy Young hypothetical: another Felix-centric post

[Senser81]

Who would you give the Cy Young to among these 6 pitchers?

Pitcher #1: 5-3, 2.83 ERA, 40 saves

Pitcher #2: 18-10, 3.68 ERA, 237 IP, 223 H, 174 K

Pitcher #3: 13-9, 3.09 ERA, 227 IP, 207 H, 107 K, 12 CG, 4 SHO

Pitcher #4: 16-16, 3.06 ERA, 264 IP, 247 H, 190 K, 10 CG

Pitcher #5: 15-7, 3.21 ERA, 179 IP, 162 H, 148 K

Pitcher #6: 8-16, 2.76 ERA, 211 IP, 154 H, 270 K

 

[Senser81]

Why the groan?

EDIT: Thanks for the clarification

 

[EmpireWF]

How about more stats....

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

It's a trap!

I can't give a guy the Cy Young Award who has a 8-16 record. I just can't. Tough luck or not, you have to find a way to get to .500.

 

[FedEx227]

#4. Although his high hit rate and low ERA suggests a pretty lucky year I think overall he had the best year.

#6 while the lowest ERA and high K total, it's obviously tough to give a guy the award with THAT bad of a record. You know me, I'm not one to usually give two shits about W-L, but a record as bad as that suggests something besides just a bad team is probably up. Whether it be obnoxiously high BB totals, home runs, early exits/lots of pitches. Which I think was exactly the pitcher who produced that stat line's biggest problem. Giving up TONS of hits and balls in the zone at the risk of getting gigantic K numbers.

I just feel like #4 was the most efficient, while at the same time in the upper class of those groups in dominance.

 

[FedEx227]

How about more stats....

#1: 2.6 WAR, 151 ERA+
#2: 5.6 WAR, 116 ERA+
#3: 3.8 WAR, 131 ERA+
#4: 6.7 WAR, 131 ERA+
#5: 3.8 WAR, 119 ERA+
#6: 5.5 WAR, 142 ERA+

And no, I made my decision before looking at these, completely off the numbers Senser gave.

 

[Goober]

#4, I'm a sucker for pitchers who go deep into games.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

#4. Although his high hit rate and low ERA suggests a pretty lucky year I think overall he had the best year.

#6 while the lowest ERA and high K total, it's obviously tough to give a guy the award with THAT bad of a record. You know me, I'm not one to usually give two shits about W-L, but a record as bad as that suggests something besides just a bad team is probably up. Whether it be obnoxiously high BB totals, home runs, early exits/lots of pitches. Which I think was exactly the pitcher who produced that stat line's biggest problem. Giving up TONS of hits and balls in the zone at the risk of getting gigantic K numbers.

I just feel like #4 was the most efficient, while at the same time in the upper class of those groups in dominance.

This is exactly why #6 is easily the most overated pitcher of all time.

He walked the ballpark, gave up a million hits, and always hovered around .500 as a result.

 

[FedEx227]

Yeah, obviously not a big W-L guy but guys who throughout their career have SUCH staggering career W-L problems are obviously stemming from an actual issue in their pitching.

 

[Senser81]

How about more stats....

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1987.shtml#NLcya

The "hypothetical" is the 1987 NL Cy Young award voting. Nolan Ryan (pitcher #6) had the best pitching stats, but he finished a distant 6th place as a rather pedestrian season from Steve Bedrosian (pitcher #1) ended up winning.