Dan Haren traded to the Angels

[Chrispy]

Dbacks Dan Haren traded to Angels for Joe Saunders, Patrick Corbin, Rafale Rodriguez

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...7/angels-acquire-dan-haren-for-joe-saunders/1

 

[USCChifan]

Damn, the D-Backs got absolute trash for Haren, that PTBNL better be good. The Angels make a splashy trade near or at the deadline every year...

 

[Leftwich]

Hopefully he'll be a better pitcher in the AL. Not that he's a bad pitcher or anything.

 

[Goober]

Wow what a steal by the Angels. Even if the player to be named latter is Mike Trout they still got the better end of the deal by a mile.

Dan Haren is a great pitcher, he has been a bit unlucky this year; playing in a hitters ballpark and backed by a terrible defense. I expect his ERA to fall to a sub 4 ERA quickly.

Saunders on the other hand is straight trash, he benefited from some great Angel teams in the past that provided enough offense and defense to make his stats look a lot better then he is.

Honestly the Diamondbacks are fucking retarded for making this trade. They had a true ace locked up in a team friendly contract through 2013, and now they have Joe fucking Saunders who is a bottom of the rotation starter, and only under team control through 2012. LOL

 

[USCChifan]

Wow what a steal by the Angels. Even if the player to be named latter is Mike Trout they still got the better end of the deal by a mile.

Dan Haren is a great pitcher, he has been a bit unlucky this year; playing in a hitters ballpark and backed by a terrible defense. I expect his ERA to fall to a sub 4 ERA quickly.

Saunders on the other hand is straight trash, he benefited from some great Angel teams in the past that provided enough offense and defense to make his stats look a lot better then he is.

Honestly the Diamondbacks are fucking retarded for making this trade. They had a true ace locked up in a team friendly contract through 2013, and now they have Joe fucking Saunders who is a bottom of the rotation starter, and only under team control through 2012. LOL

The PTBNL is not Trout, but while the trade looks bad the D-Backs needed to shed payroll because of the bad economy in Phoenix.

 

[Goober]

The PTBNL is not Trout, but while the trade looks bad the D-Backs needed to shed payroll because of the bad economy in Phoenix.

Haren was making signed for about 10 million a year for the rest of his contract. In arbitration Saunders will probably earn around 5 million or more each of the next two years.

Not a lot of savings there. The Diamondbacks are a much worse team after the trade. That means less fans in the ballpark, and less money coming in. That's bad business. It's one thing to trade a player with only a year left to save money, but trading Haren in this situation is dumb, unless you're blown away by the offer. I can't believe Arizona settled for this.

 

[USCChifan]

The D-Backs shed about $30 million in payroll after dealing Haren. Onley is right in that this deal is like the Padres deal of Peavy last season.

 

[Goober]

The D-Backs shed about $30 million in payroll after dealing Haren. Onley is right in that this deal is like the Padres deal of Peavy last season.

L-O-FUCKING-L at comparing the Peavy trade to the Haren trade. Are you retarded? Starting this year, Peavy will make 70 million over the next four years. The Padres got rid of about 7.5 million a year more on pay roll, and they received a much better package of prospects. The Diamondbacks traded a better pitcher for the bottom of the rotation starter.

 

[chazmaniandevil]

last player is skaggs, definitely didnt see this one coming

even with haren, angels season is most likely over with that trash offense, and i cant see the GM making another deal giving up more of that farm

that being said, still a steal for the Angels, just a steal at a not so opportune time

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

L-O-FUCKING-L at comparing the Peavy trade to the Haren trade. Are you retarded? Starting this year, Peavy will make 70 million over the next four years. The Padres got rid of about 7.5 million a year more on pay roll, and they received a much better package of prospects. The Diamondbacks traded a better pitcher for the bottom of the rotation starter.

Joe Saunders is the least important part of the package. That's just a major league ready body that keeps a rotation spot occupied for the short term.

Those two prospects arent bad, and we don't know who the player to be named is yet. I like the trade for the Angels a lot, but I think it's a good trade for Arizona, too. They won't be good over the length of Haren's deal.

 

[chazmaniandevil]

Joe Saunders is the least important part of the package. That's just a major league ready body that keeps a rotation spot occupied for the short term.

Those two prospects arent bad, and we don't know who the player to be named is yet. I like the trade for the Angels a lot, but I think it's a good trade for Arizona, too. They won't be good over the length of Haren's deal.

we do know who it is now btw, tyler skaggs
supplemental first round pick last year, projects as a mid rotation starter

EDIT : probably best piece the D-Backs got

 

[Rudi]

Glad he didn't go to the Cardinals that would've sucked. Good pick up for Arizona fo sho

 

[Chrispy]

D-Backs may have left talent on the table

"I'm having a hard time believing this was all the market would give up for Dan Haren. Three bodies, a player to be named later (believed to be Tyler Skaggs, though it's not a lock) plus salary relief for a pitcher who was one of the top five pitchers in the NL last season, was reasonably compensated and was suffering from a lot of bad luck this season? The Angels may be too far back to catch Texas this year, but they've set themselves up very well for a 2011 season where they'll have Kendry Morales back and healthy and Texas will likely be without the services of Cliff Lee. I've talked to a few sources in other front offices not involved in the deal, and the unanimous response is that this is a great deal for the Angels and a bad one for Arizona. Bottom line here is that Arizona traded three and a half years of affordable control of a very good starting pitcher, potentially an ace, for a limited return in players. Salary relief is nice, but good young players are better."

ESPN

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

How a year changes things. I find it very hard to believe Haren would've went this cheap at the same point last year. Shame too because hes only been a bit unlucky this year, hes still a top flight pitcher.

 

[Lanteri]

'Zona got raped hard in this trade. Especially when you consider what they gave up to get Haren.

 

[Goober]

Joe Saunders is the least important part of the package. That's just a major league ready body that keeps a rotation spot occupied for the short term.

Those two prospects arent bad, and we don't know who the player to be named is yet. I like the trade for the Angels a lot, but I think it's a good trade for Arizona, too. They won't be good over the length of Haren's deal.

The two prospects don't look very good to me. Corbin projects as a bottom of the rotation starter, and Rodriguez is an average bullpen arm at best. Tyler Skaggs better turn out to be a damn good player, because the first three guys stink.

 

[FedEx227]

It's basically the same haul Oakland got for Joe Blanton.

Which is pathetic because Haren >>>>>>>>>>> Blanton.

 

[Chrispy]

He probably had no motivation to pitch good in Arizona since they are pretty much always out of it, now he goes to a team that has a very good shot to catch the Rangers to get in the playoffs, now he has a ton of motivation to pitch good.

 

[FedEx227]

Once he regresses back to the mean this deal is going to look SO awful.

 

[IamMedellin]

joe saunders is crying on espn