Dana White: "Anybody who sees Overeem as a top 10 should be embarassed"

[CrimsonGhost56]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHSWP6WPotI[/ame]

entertaining 8 minute rank from dana. he talks about the Reem at the 3:40 mark. and for someone who claims to not care what the internet says, he sure does talk about them a lot.

 

[EmpireWF]

:facepalm:

I'd love to see Dana's version of the top 10 heavyweights.

Dude is such a troll.

 

[EmpireWF]

Issue is on the surface, based ONLY on W/L, Overeem's record at heavyweight is not impressive at all.

The problem though, the heavyweight division is pretty fucking weak.

Obviously he'd see Velasquez, Brock, JDS, Carwin and likely Mir/Big Nog top ten worthy.

I'd love to see if DW thinks Werdum is.

Dana can't be a bigger troll to say Fedor doesn't belong either. :einstein:

So right there alone, there are 2 spots left.

 

[JeremyHight]

I'll say this, the best heavyweight in SF got ran out of the UFC after getting owned by JDS. As sad as that is, the heavyweight division in general is weak as shit.

 

[Liquidrob]

Dana White made comments about you not being ranked in the top 10, what’s your take on his comments.

Dana is entitled to his own opinion and has some valid arguments to claim his case but I don’t feel that they are that strong.

What do you think of those arguments he makes

You know, he’s claiming that I didn’t defeat anybody that’s in the top 10 so why should you rank me. That’s true but the fact of the matter is that I’m a very active fighter and you can see that I’m a different fighter then I was at 205lbs. I’m undefeated since 2008 when I became heavyweight and even more important I have finished all the fights in the first round but then again Dana is president of a company so he’s going to say stuff like that. To be honest it doesn’t bother me because I can make a good case for being in the top 10.

And what are your arguments for your case?

First of all he was telling that I didn’t fight anybody in the top 10, that’s not entirely true. When I defended my title against Brett Rogers, Rogers was considered top 10 after he defeated a former number 2 or 3 fighter Arlovski. I was not in the top 10 at the time and when I defeated Brett Rogers I enter the virtual rankings. Now everybody is saying that Brett Rogers shouldn’t have been in the top 10 in the first place but that’s the same as saying Brock doesn’t deserve a spot on number two.

After what Cain did to Brock it’s silly to give Brock a top 5 spot, but that’s my opinion. He’s still a good fighter but having a 5-2 record and almost losing to Carwin and having wins over Herring, Couture and Mir (which he lost to as well) is not something that I’m very impressed about. I’m not going to call the media stupid like Dana but let me put it this way; how can a real M.M.A. insider put a Brock Lesnar above Fedor Emelianenko or even JDS. The fact of the matter is I like that people are debating the rankings but I don’t take them that seriously.

Why don’t you take them seriously?

You know when I heard that Brett Rogers was a top 10 fighter and I wasn’t ranked I thought he was the favorite going into the fight. Then a friend of my called and told me that he was going to bet on me but that I was the favorite and the odds where in my favor. So if the bookmakers don’t even use the ranking then you can say that they don’t mean that much. The same thing before the Brock vs Cain fight. I saw a preview article and most of the fans and other fighters thought that Cain was going to win the fight, that’s strange if the ranking put him number one and the organization calls him the ‘baddest man on the planet’.

If you can make the ranking yourself what does the ranking look like?

I’m not going to make my own top 10 because that will create just more room for the debate and that’s not necessary. People have to define first which criteria comes into play when creating a ranking system. Some people use only their last fight and what opposition they have fought. Other people look at skill set, talent, way of fighting and popularity. Now people tend to use both criteria and therefore you have ranking that can be heavily debated.

That’s why Dana White is saying that I don’t belong in the top 10 because he doesn’t take into account my K-1 fights and doesn’t think that beating one top 10 fighter is good enough for entering the ranking. On the other hand you have Bas Rutten that says that I’m the number one heavyweight in the world. He uses my experience, potential, skill set and the way I finished fights against opposition that is not considered top 10. He also knows that my striking is improved very much and therefore uses my K-1 experience. So let’s say that the truth is somewhere in the middle. I’m fully aware that I have to prove myself, I know I can defeat anybody so it’s my job to prove it to my fans and to my doubters.

What do you think of Dana’s claim that the best fighters fight in the UFC and fight each other 3 times a year?

It’s not strange that Dana is making such a claim but if he really thinks that his heavyweight division is the best in the world he should let 5 heavyweights of the UFC fight 5 heavyweights from Strikeforce otherwise he can’t never justify his claim that UFC has the best heavyweights in the world. My opinion in this one is that Strikeforce have a good chance of winning.

They tried it when Pride was there so it’s not something new. If Strikeforce is going to have tournament format they should reserve a spot for a UFC fighter, that would be awesome. About the fact that they fight each other 3 times a year, I can only say that he has a valid point but Strikeforce is a young organization and give them the time to prove themselves. They have a great roster of fighters so I’m confident that they will make the fights happen very soon. I’m ready to fight 2 or 3 times in 2011!

 

[SHOGUN]

Overeem shut that shit down.

 

[Bmore]

Reem talks all knowledgeable and gracious, but in reality he's thinking.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

He hasnt beaten anyone. If you choose to put him in the Top 10, it's entirely speculative.

For example, Overeem can take backhanded shots at Brock's mythical rankings all he wants, but Brock has the better resume. Show me the Overeem wins over the caliber of fighter Brock has beaten. They don't exist.

Couture/Carwin/Mir > Rogers/a bunch of bums, by a mile.

If Overeem wants to prove himself to be a legit Top 10 in his division, he should stop playing footsie with the kickboxers, step in the cage, and beat some people. The only reason he's considered a Top 10 guy is because heavy is so shallow, it's not ridiculous to leave him out (I wouldnt, he'd barely make mine), HE HASNT BEATEN ANYONE.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Overeem hasn't beaten anybody of any significance...so, I see where the D-man is coming from.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Rogers was an ok win, but that can't be the highlight of your resume.

Here's what I don't get. Brock gets a title shot after going 1-1 in the UFC, and makes successful title defenses against Couture, Mir, and Carwin (all legit top 10 guys at the time of the fights), and he's a fraud who didn't deserve a title shot to begin with.

Overeem gets a title shot IN HIS FIRST SF FIGHT, hides for two years, beats a fringe top 10 guy in his only title defense, beats a few washed up cans in Japan, but he's supposedly the best heavy in the world.

Call Brock overhyped all you want, but you better be consistant and do the same for Overeem, who has accomplishes far less ikn the same timeframe. Overeem is the most overhyped fighter in the game.

Overhype needs some wins.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Uberbum.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Rogers was an ok win, but that can't be the highlight of your resume.

Here's what I don't get. Brock gets a title shot after going 1-1 in the UFC, and makes successful title defenses against Couture, Mir, and Carwin (all legit top 10 guys at the time of the fights), and he's a fraud who didn't deserve a title shot to begin with.

Overeem gets a title shot IN HIS FIRST SF FIGHT, hides for two years, beats a fringe top 10 guy in his only title defense, beats a few washed up cans in Japan, but he's supposedly the best heavy in the world.

Call Brock overhyped all you want, but you better be consistant and do the same for Overeem, who has accomplishes far less ikn the same timeframe. Overeem is the most overhyped fighter in the game.

Overhype needs some wins.

bu bu but K-1 !

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Cant be top anything if you dont fight.

SF doesnt want anyone fighting they refuse to make guys do it. They should just relabel themselves InterviewForce since thats all there roster does.

 

[EmpireWF]

Cant be top anything if you dont fight.

SF doesnt want anyone fighting they refuse to make guys do it. They should just relabel themselves InterviewForce since thats all there roster does.

Werdum is hurt. Fedor is negotiating a new contract.

Who exactly would you have Overeem defend his title against in Strikeforce?

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Werdum is hurt. Fedor is negotiating a new contract.

Who exactly would you have Overeem defend his title against in Strikeforce?

barnett

 

[EmpireWF]

barnett

lol

Overeem is going to defend his belt against a guy who:

a) Has not fought in America in nearly two years b/c....

b) The last time he was booked in a large profile fight, he failed his drug test (the second time in his career) for teh roids

c) Has yet to prove since said large profile fight, he can pass an an average state's athletic commission's pre-fight drug test


At least have Barnett fight once in Strikeforce before you book him in the main event.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Barnett - Reem "The Battle of the Roid Heads"

it could sell

 

[EmpireWF]

Barnett - Reem "The Battle of the Roid Heads"

it could sell

better yet....SYRINGE ON A POLL MATCH

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Werdum is hurt. Fedor is negotiating a new contract.

Who exactly would you have Overeem defend his title against in Strikeforce?

Give me a break, he's defended that title ONE TIME, in how many years? Three? Its a joke. Inexcusable, he should have been stripped a long time ago, especially if he'd rather go kickbox.

And they can have him defend against anyone. His one title defense was against a guy coming off of a loss, so Coker isn't exactly picky. Bigfoot Silva? Mike Kyle? Who cares. Give him a f'n fight.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Give me a break, he's defended that title ONE TIME, in how many years? Three? Its a joke. Inexcusable, he should have been stripped a long time ago, especially if he'd rather go kickbox.

And they can have him defend against anyone. His one title defense was against a guy coming off of a loss, so Coker isn't exactly picky. Bigfoot Silva? Mike Kyle? Who cares. Give him a f'n fight.

mousasi said hes fighting kyle in february.