Dayum, Raffie Torres just got......

[1ke]

25 games for splattering Hossa all across the ice!

Damn, I spelled his name wrong.......Lol. Fuck him and his retard name.

 

[wingsfan77]

And yet James Neal got ONE game for the exact same hit.

EDIT: was Hossa hurt on that hit? The NHL is stupid with how they take whether a player was injured or not into consideration for suspensions.

 

[1ke]

Is a repeat offender worth 24 games more? And not just one repeat but 1 bad one last year playoffs and 3 instances this whole season.

 

[leaffan]

And yet James Neal got ONE game for the exact same hit.

Neals hit wasn't even close to torres.

Seriously your really starting to reach on some of these.

 

[wr50l]

Well let's see ...

Both hits were late interference, both were on a defenceless player, and both involved deliberately leaving the ground before the point of contact. But I guess you're right they are totally different, because Torres was wearing a red jersey and Neal was wearing a white and gold one amirite?

 

[leaffan]

Well let's see ...

Both hits were late interference, both were on a defenceless player, and both involved deliberately leaving the ground before the point of contact. But I guess you're right they are totally different, because Torres was wearing a red jersey and Neal was wearing a white and gold one amirite?

Torres is hitting someone on purpose and is leaving his feet with intent to injure. Torres also has a history of this same stuff. He even said he had full intent on hitting him labelling it as a "good hockey play"

Neal on the other hand had no intent to hit or injure and the play (looks to me anyways) that he was jumping as a reaction due to acciedental collision (this was also reported and said by Shanahan).

But no they are exactly the same. Come on stop reaching with this shit guys. I seriously want to face palm at most of the stuff I am reading this year from fans. I don't know if this is just the culture that the game is turning into or just a part of the process in trying to make the game safer but its just like the NFL and everytime someone makes a hit they have to be suspended for a whole year.

 

[wr50l]

Aye Neal had no intent to injure. Not like he was running around like a raging bull trying to settle some score. Not that this matters but, was his headshot on Giroux moments before or moments after this? Neal lined him up from about 5 yards away, with his back turned as he looked for a puck he wasn't in possession of, then lunged at him, leaving his feet deliberately and making contact with the head. Prior history of being a dirty cunt shouldn't account for a 24 game disparity in punishment for two eerily similar examples of foul play.

 

[1ke]

Im cool with it. Because this is not his first time. He has never had to learn the hard way not to do this shit. Well, now maybe 25 games will make him see. Maybe not. This was his third time this season he has made the principal angry and take notice. Not to mention him fucking up Seabrook last season.

 

[leaffan]

Aye Neal had no intent to injure. Not like he was running around like a raging bull trying to settle some score. Not that this matters but, was his headshot on Giroux moments before or moments after this? Neal lined him up from about 5 yards away, with his back turned as he looked for a puck he wasn't in possession of, then lunged at him, leaving his feet deliberately and making contact with the head. Prior history of being a dirty cunt shouldn't account for a 24 game disparity in punishment for two eerily similar examples of foul play.

After.

And punishing someone more severly for having a history of this sort of thing is exactly what should be done.

 

[leaffan]

Another thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikjL0GrAdDY

Just watch around the 3min mark and on and shows his history. Those hits all look a little familiar don't they? At this point if he keeps up the head hunting he's going to find himself in the KHL or some other bum league.

 

[1ke]

And this is the hit on Seabrook which Shanny didnt even mention. This fuckhead is a goon. Straight up. He deserves it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iko57O8CmeM

 

[leaffan]

And this is the hit on Seabrook which Shanny didnt even mention. This fuckhead is a goon. Straight up. He deserves it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iko57O8CmeM

The problem there is that is as much of Seabrookes own fault as it is Torres.

 

[wingsfan77]

Neals hit wasn't even close to torres.

Seriously your really starting to reach on some of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4noyIBeYwvk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQs8lq6KJ8&feature=player_embedded

yeah, not even close, uh huh. I don't for one second believe that Neal was "bracing himself for an accidental collision" he had plenty of time to avoid the hit.

 

[leaffan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4noyIBeYwvk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQs8lq6KJ8&feature=player_embedded

yeah, not even close, uh huh. I don't for one second believe that Neal was "bracing himself for an accidental collision" he had plenty of time to avoid the hit.

The first time I saw the hit my first reaction was that it was an accident. Then again I don't have my homer goggles on to try and scew my view.

 

[Senser81]

This forum is terrible.

 

[wr50l]

The first time I saw the hit my first reaction was that it was an accident. Then again I don't have my homer goggles on to try and scew my view.

You seem to have some sort of old-time hockey homer goggles on though. Torres' hit was an acknowledgement of two things - 1) he has priors and 2) the hit was exceptionally dangerous. When it comes to James Neil, they only seemed to acknowledge his lack of a 1), even though it was almost an instant replay of the hit on Hossa. Torres is worthy of 25 games based on reputation, but comparing two identical hits even the cleanest player in the league shouldn't be getting a suspension that is just 1/25th the length of the precedent. Another guy without a reputation as a dirty player (Hagelin), gets 3 games for dangerous play, but Neal only gets 1. It's redundant because the Pens are out now, but inconsistency like that can unfairly benefit one team over another and change the fate of the Stanley Cup.

 

[kyhadley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4noyIBeYwvk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQs8lq6KJ8&feature=player_embedded

yeah, not even close, uh huh. I don't for one second believe that Neal was "bracing himself for an accidental collision" he had plenty of time to avoid the hit.

As someone who has no horse in this race, those hits look very similar to me.

 

[leaffan]

You seem to have some sort of old-time hockey homer goggles on though. Torres' hit was an acknowledgement of two things - 1) he has priors and 2) the hit was exceptionally dangerous. When it comes to James Neil, they only seemed to acknowledge his lack of a 1), even though it was almost an instant replay of the hit on Hossa. Torres is worthy of 25 games based on reputation, but comparing two identical hits even the cleanest player in the league shouldn't be getting a suspension that is just 1/25th the length of the precedent. Another guy without a reputation as a dirty player (Hagelin), gets 3 games for dangerous play, but Neal only gets 1. It's redundant because the Pens are out now, but inconsistency like that can unfairly benefit one team over another and change the fate of the Stanley Cup.

One player is head hunting and the other had an accidental collision. One player got back up and went to the bench while the other went to the hospital and was carried off in a stretcher. Two seperate things but hey they look the same and must get the same punishment right?

I also laugh at how bad the NHL is handeling a lot of these instances and I'm sure this is going to be right up there in negotiations for the next CBA but this is the way things are these days. Players have little to no respect for each other anymore and until the league really starts getting serious about it the problem isn't going to go away. I honestly don't like to see people like Weber trying to smash zetterbergs head into the glass but apparantly some of the GMs thought a 3 game suspension was too harsh on the player and Shanahan had to basically give out a fine.

They talked about this stuff on the cbc hotstove on saturday and pretty much went into what is going on with some of these suspensions and why they are so goofy.