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Finals Match-ups

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If we learned anything during the ECF it was that basketball is all about match-ups. So with that being said lets go ahead and look at the match-ups.

Derek Fisher - Rafer Alston

Alston killed Moe Williams due Moe's inability to get things going and giving Lebron any help. I think he had one decent game and obviously he wasn't enough. Moe Williams is more athletic than Fisher but that doesn't always get it done. That's why I'm thinking this may lead towards L.A.'s advantage. Fisher is an experienced veteran who has the maturity to brush off a poor performance in last series and just play his role and ask what is expected of him. Something Moe couldn't do. Push.

Kobe Bryant - Courtney Lee

Obviously this one is going to L.A. Shouldn't even need an explanation really. Orlando does have a couple things going for them though. They did just play against Lebron James, the only other guy comparable in todays league to Kobe Bryant so they should know what they are getting into going against Kobe. Orlando has not just one but two defenders to throw at Bryant in Courtney Lee and Mickael Pietrus. Both guys have solid defense so that is a plus. Kobe is going to get his no doubt, it all comes down to will he have enough help. Something Lebron didn't. Advantage Lakers.

Trevor Ariza - Hedo Turkoglu

Both guys can knock down the shots when needed but I think this match-up involves one of the most underrated guys in the league. Hedo Turkoglu. Have you ever watched the Magics offense when Turk isn't on the floor? Just pay attention if you haven't next time the games on. The offense just seems to go smoother with much more ball movement when Turk is in. Turk can drive, knock down the three and dish it off. Not to mention his defense isn't bad either. Now I'm not saying Ariza isn't that good it's just that Turk is going to make that much more of an impact in this series than Trevor Ariza will. Expect a big series from Hedo because this is one of their biggest match-up advantages. Both players will hit their shots but Hedo will lead his team. Advantage Magic.

Pau "LOL" Gasol - Rashard Lewis

By a hair. This match-up right here may decide the series. Whoever gets the better of each other here is really going to help their team big time. I'm giving the advantage to Gasol though because I feel Gasol's post presence is something Lewis and the Magic are weak in outside of Dwight Howard. Lewis matched up against Varejao last series who really isn't the banger down low like Gasol is. If Lewis can keep Gasol in check and not let him abuse him down low in the paint then we may be leaning towards a Magic advantage here. Where this match-up does favor Orlando though is on the offensive side of the ball. Is Gasol quick enough to cover Rashard Lewis on the perimeter? I don't think so. Follow this match-up closely because this may be the one that decides the series. Advantage Lakers.

Andrew Bynum - Dwight Howard

If Dwight has a series like he had in Game 6 of the ECF the Magic could win this series in 5 games. Is that gonna happen? Probably not. Dwight had it pretty easy in the ECF going up against Z. Expect something a little different, a little tougher , a more physical battle going on down under the rim in this series. Bynum's 7'0" and 285 lbs will give Dwight some problems down low. He doesn't have the offensive game yet to just simply dominate but still you have to give this match-up to the defensive player of the year. Advantage Magic.

Lakers Bench - Magic Bench

When I look at the Magic's bench I see three guys who step up. Gortat, Pietrus and Anthony Johnsons compared to the Lakers who have three maybe four in Farmar, Vujacic, Walton and Odom. Now in recent history Odom has been a non-factor in big games. He disappears this is why I'm giving it a push. If Odom can step up and play his game than it's gonna be a big boost for the Lakers because that is another big body outside of Bynum that the Lakers can throw at Howard. But that is a big if. Pietrus loves his corner shot from the baseline and Johnson runs that offense decent enough to stay in the game. Gortat when he plays well allows Howard to catch his breath and not take too big of a hit when Dwight comes out of the game. Push

Phil Jackson - Stan Van Gundy

Insert porn moustache/Ron Jeremy joke here. Not but seriously, Phil just flash your fingers. If the Lakers win Phil Jackson will have won more NBA Titles than any other coach. Advantage Lakers.


Just something I started to type up in the NBA Finals thread but figured it was long enough to just make it it's own thread. I would give a prediction but I'm not big on predictions in the NBA because so many things come into play. I'll save the predictions for September when the NFL season kicks off.
 
IMO the Lakers are best starting Odom @ the 4 and Gasol @ the 5 for this series. Howard is going to have his way with Bynum OR Gasol regardless, but you're much better off with Odom guarding Lewis than you are with Gasol, much better. Odom has the athleticism to guard him, Gasol does not.

PS: Alston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Derek Fisher. Ill say it again.. Derek Fisher is the worst starting PG in the NBA. Alston trumps him by a mile.
 
Gasol isnt gurading Lewis. Seriously Orlando doesnt run a normal team out there. Its basically 1 center and 1 PG and 3 SG/SF.

SHannon Brown is going to be seeing big minutes. he has the quickness and intensity to match up with Alston. Odom and Walton could gurad and slow down a bit either lewis or Turk. Kobe is shutting down whomever he guards, no one on that team is great except Howard.

Thts really the only trouble spot for the lakers. Howard is going to have a huge series IMO. Only thing is if Bynum wakes up and fouls Howard a lot cuz hes not stopping him any other way. Then gasol gets to rest and he makes Howard work on D, soemthing he ddint have to do really with CLE, just weakside D.
 
If we learned anything during the ECF it was that basketball is all about match-ups. So with that being said lets go ahead and look at the match-ups.

Derek Fisher - Rafer Alston

Alston killed Moe Williams due Moe's inability to get things going and giving Lebron any help. I think he had one decent game and obviously he wasn't enough. Moe Williams is more athletic than Fisher but that doesn't always get it done. That's why I'm thinking this may lead towards L.A.'s advantage. Fisher is an experienced veteran who has the maturity to brush off a poor performance in last series and just play his role and ask what is expected of him. Something Moe couldn't do. Push.

Kobe Bryant - Courtney Lee

Obviously this one is going to L.A. Shouldn't even need an explanation really. Orlando does have a couple things going for them though. They did just play against Lebron James, the only other guy comparable in todays league to Kobe Bryant so they should know what they are getting into going against Kobe. Orlando has not just one but two defenders to throw at Bryant in Courtney Lee and Mickael Pietrus. Both guys have solid defense so that is a plus. Kobe is going to get his no doubt, it all comes down to will he have enough help. Something Lebron didn't. Advantage Lakers.

Trevor Ariza - Hedo Turkoglu

Both guys can knock down the shots when needed but I think this match-up involves one of the most underrated guys in the league. Hedo Turkoglu. Have you ever watched the Magics offense when Turk isn't on the floor? Just pay attention if you haven't next time the games on. The offense just seems to go smoother with much more ball movement when Turk is in. Turk can drive, knock down the three and dish it off. Not to mention his defense isn't bad either. Now I'm not saying Ariza isn't that good it's just that Turk is going to make that much more of an impact in this series than Trevor Ariza will. Expect a big series from Hedo because this is one of their biggest match-up advantages. Both players will hit their shots but Hedo will lead his team. Advantage Magic.

Pau "LOL" Gasol - Rashard Lewis

By a hair. This match-up right here may decide the series. Whoever gets the better of each other here is really going to help their team big time. I'm giving the advantage to Gasol though because I feel Gasol's post presence is something Lewis and the Magic are weak in outside of Dwight Howard. Lewis matched up against Varejao last series who really isn't the banger down low like Gasol is. If Lewis can keep Gasol in check and not let him abuse him down low in the paint then we may be leaning towards a Magic advantage here. Where this match-up does favor Orlando though is on the offensive side of the ball. Is Gasol quick enough to cover Rashard Lewis on the perimeter? I don't think so. Follow this match-up closely because this may be the one that decides the series. Advantage Lakers.

Andrew Bynum - Dwight Howard

If Dwight has a series like he had in Game 6 of the ECF the Magic could win this series in 5 games. Is that gonna happen? Probably not. Dwight had it pretty easy in the ECF going up against Z. Expect something a little different, a little tougher , a more physical battle going on down under the rim in this series. Bynum's 7'0" and 285 lbs will give Dwight some problems down low. He doesn't have the offensive game yet to just simply dominate but still you have to give this match-up to the defensive player of the year. Advantage Magic.

Lakers Bench - Magic Bench

When I look at the Magic's bench I see three guys who step up. Gortat, Pietrus and Anthony Johnsons compared to the Lakers who have three maybe four in Farmar, Vujacic, Walton and Odom. Now in recent history Odom has been a non-factor in big games. He disappears this is why I'm giving it a push. If Odom can step up and play his game than it's gonna be a big boost for the Lakers because that is another big body outside of Bynum that the Lakers can throw at Howard. But that is a big if. Pietrus loves his corner shot from the baseline and Johnson runs that offense decent enough to stay in the game. Gortat when he plays well allows Howard to catch his breath and not take too big of a hit when Dwight comes out of the game. Push

Phil Jackson - Stan Van Gundy

Insert porn moustache/Ron Jeremy joke here. Not but seriously, Phil just flash your fingers. If the Lakers win Phil Jackson will have won more NBA Titles than any other coach. Advantage Lakers.


Just something I started to type up in the NBA Finals thread but figured it was long enough to just make it it's own thread. I would give a prediction but I'm not big on predictions in the NBA because so many things come into play. I'll save the predictions for September when the NFL season kicks off.
I dont like your matchup..no offense

Fisher vs Alston.
Alston here. Everyone knows fisher struggles with fast PGs. See rockets series

Kobe vs Lee
lol...

Ariza vs Turk
even
Ariza is our second best perimeter player and is underrated defensively everysince he became a knockdown shooter from the 3. Turk will get his..ariza will get his.

Paul Gasol vs Lewis
Lewis
Gasol cant guard lewis on the perimeter..thankfully he wont. We will leave that up to odom.

Bynum vs Howard
howard
Howard wont rape bynum..bynum wont stop him, but he will do a solid job if he gets solid minutes. If paul gasol is on howard more than bynum, we lose. Gasol is the soffest low post defender ive seen my entire life. Its as if he says fuck defense. If bynum doesnt get solid minutes...i think we will lose. Bynum will be the x factor in this series imo
 
The real starting match-ups will be something along the lines of:

Alston vs. Fisher
Lee vs. Bryant
Turkoglu vs. Ariza
Lewis vs. Odom
Howard vs. LOLGasol

The one thing that people need to stop doing is comparing Kobe and LeBron when talking about in-game situations. Sure, the Magic have just played against LeBron, but Kobe is a totally different player. He's much more finesse, he uses different moves, and he's a better scorer. The look that they got from LeBron is not the look they'll get from Kobe.

The Celtics were a huge match-up problem for the Lakers last year. This year, it's a huge problem for the Magic. Dwight may be the defensive player of the year, but he's going up against a legitimate problem in the post in Pau Gasol. Pau's ambidextrous ability and post-up moves are going to provide problems for Dwight, especially because there are no other players on the Magic team that will defend him well in the post when Dwight is on the floor. Dwight will get his help blocks and his blocks on driving players, but Gasol will handle him in the paint. Kobe and Gasol will be consistent and when they are the problems, help will come on them which will then set up Ariza and Fisher and Odom.

The Magic strive on defense, which is why they win games in which they keep their opponents under 90. They're not going to hold the Lakers to 90 and they have a really great problem against them, especially without a quick, All-star point guard in Jameer Nelson. I'm telling you right now, Lakers in 5.
 
^^^ Good stuff...I'd amend what you said about Pau to add the condition that he plays aggressively. It seems like he just doesn't bring it unless someone calls him soft right before tipoff.
 
he has his moments but fisher is better imo

If Fisher isn't forcing shots and hitting the open 3 on spot ups he's good, but when's he's forcing shots (which he seems to enjoy doing now for some reason) and missing wide open shots he's practically useless. From a basketball standpoint at this point in his career Fisher brings one thing and that is shooting and when that is off he's useless.
 
Steve Blake/Jarret Jack (whichever one started)?

Steve Blake is without question better than Derek Fisher.

Jarrett Jack was traded to Indiana.. played the majority of the year @ 2-guard.. and was STILL better than Derek Fisher.

Beno Udrih is the only arguable player.. and id even take a young Beno over Fisher at this point.

Fisher is BRUTAL. He gets circles run-around him on defense, he takes brutally bad shots on offense, and he isnt even the primary ball handler when Kobe's on the floor (which is the only time Fisher plays). In conclusion: Fisher is the worst starting PG in the NBA. Period.
 
Gasol isnt gurading Lewis. Seriously Orlando doesnt run a normal team out there. Its basically 1 center and 1 PG and 3 SG/SF.
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Umm what? If the Lakers keep the starting 5 with Gasol and Bynum in it.. then yes, Gasol definitely guards Lewis. Bynum surely wont.. and Ariza or Kobe will be on Turk.. so. I dont see how Gasol isnt guarding Lewis in that lineup. As I said.. the Lakers are much better off starting Odom for this match-up.
 
As far as the Lakers go I see this series as a bunch of "ifs" and if they get the "ifs" the Lakers could win it in 6 games.

If Bynum comes to play (I know, its a BIG if....seriously a really BIG if) he'd at least be able to bang with Howard and get him tired, etc. This would help. The reason Howard was such a beast in the Cavs series was because the Cavs had no one who made Howard have to work (ie boxing out, post defending, etc) Also, if Odom decides to show up as he did in the last 2 games of the Denver series the Lakers shouldn't have many issues.
 
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