"Guys Rolling Around Like Homosexuals On The Ground...."

[BigBucs]

Interview with Bob Arum. President of Top Rank Promotions. Promoter of Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto among other high profile boxers.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_tsPatoBU"]YouTube - Bob Arum FanHouse Interview[/ame]​

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

LOL @ this nugget:

"There is no way that PPV (UFC 100) generated those numbers (1.7M buys). I know they were south of 1M"

Are you saying they are off by 700k +?

"Yeah. Who's to say? They aren't a public company, nobody knows...."

But Arum is right about one thing--the two sports have two very different audiences. He clearly understands who his base is these days--ethnic (hispanics, filipinos), and "his generation". They have not captured the younger generation (boxing, by far, has the highest viewer average age of all sports on televsion), and have lost the casual sports fan. The average boxing viewer also has one of the lowest average incomes in all of sports, making it hard to sell $50 ppv's.

These are the problems guys like Arum must tackle, not attacking MMA/UFC unprovoked. All the intreviewer did was ask how the big boxing vs. UFC 103 battle would do---fact is, PBF is going to destroy UFC 103, but Arum has to make sure he dosen't give PBF any credit either., so he missed his chance to really take a legit shot at Dana White.

Unfortunately for Arum, he's playing catch up to both PBF & UFC, so he comes off like the bitter old coot that his is.

 

[BigBiss]

he is pandering to his base, it actually a pretty good move. make your product seem sophisticated.

 

[EmpireWF]

W2B, do you think the Mayweather fight will crush UFC 103? I'm not so sure. Guess it's how we define 'crush.'

Mayweather/Hatton did 850k US PPV buys. With a year-plus layoff and staying out of the public eye, I doubt Mayweather has increased his persona enough to do better than that, especially against a lesser name.

I figure Mayweather's fight will do at least over 600k. I expect UFC 103 (without a legit main event or a legit superstar draw) to do about 350k, give or take 50k.

If Mayweather doesn't do double the PPV business of UFC with Franklin, Belfort and Cro Cop, that would be rough.

 

[Liquidrob]

homophobes or closet homo's will never reallly like MMA, atleast the grappling part, it brings out feelings that they dont know how to express or how to feel about

.

 

[BigBucs]

W2B, do you think the Mayweather fight will crush UFC 103? I'm not so sure. Guess it's how we define 'crush.'

Mayweather/Hatton did 850k US PPV buys. With a year-plus layoff and staying out of the public eye, I doubt Mayweather has increased his persona enough to do better than that, especially against a lesser name.

I figure Mayweather's fight will do at least over 600k. I expect UFC 103 (without a legit main event or a legit superstar draw) to do about 350k, give or take 50k.

If Mayweather doesn't do double the PPV business of UFC with Franklin, Belfort and Cro Cop, that would be rough.

Mayweather Marquez may do 2-300k if he is lucky.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

imagine dana if ufc beats boxing this weekend... dear lord

 

[EmpireWF]

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but those people like boxing? pro wrestling? football? basketball?

There's a whole hell of a lot of man-on-man action in such activities.

 

[JrRawlins]

But Arum is right about one thing--the two sports have two very different audiences. He clearly understands who his base is these days--ethnic (hispanics, filipinos), and "his generation". They have not captured the younger generation (boxing, by far, has the highest viewer average age of all sports on televsion), and have lost the casual sports fan. The average boxing viewer also has one of the lowest average incomes in all of sports, making it hard to sell $50 ppv's..

huh? Golf, has the highest viewer age of all sports.... with Bowling a close second..... I understand if you dont like boxing.... and maybe it has lost some of its casual fans.... but some MMA fans act like boxing will be dead in ten years... boxing will be fine.... will they see the huge paydays of before... nah... unless they can get the sanctioning bodies and promoters to unified to one entity(which will never happen)....

 

[nflman2033]

that is hilarious, i Lol'd.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

huh? Golf, has the highest viewer age of all sports.... with Bowling a close second..... I understand if you dont like boxing.... and maybe it has lost some of its casual fans.... but some MMA fans act like boxing will be dead in ten years... boxing will be fine.... will they see the huge paydays of before... nah... unless they can get the sanctioning bodies and promoters to unified to one entity(which will never happen)....

The average boxing tv viewer age fluxtuates between 53-56 years of age.

More often than not it's the highest average age of any "major" sport in a given week. Higher than golf (although it's neck and neck sometimes). Not sure about the bowling, because I don't know if my source had up to date bowling figures.

Take this for what it's worth, but I got this from a very credible source. Don't ask me who, because you won't believe me anyway.

 

[Liquidrob]

53-56, WTF?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

53-56, WTF?

It's high, and it's a problem for them, but not as high as it seems on the surface

For example, I think MLB is in the mid 40's. Most sports are.

 

[Liquidrob]

It's high, and it's a problem for them, but not as high as it seems on the surface

For example, I think MLB is in the mid 40's. Most sports are.

That doesn’t seem right to me, a lot of Mexicans watch boxing and they are all 21 on there driver licenses

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

LOL @ this nugget:

"There is no way that PPV (UFC 100) generated those numbers (1.7M buys). I know they were south of 1M[/B]"

Are you saying they are off by 700k +?

"Yeah. Who's to say? They aren't a public company, nobody knows...."

But Arum is right about one thing--the two sports have two very different audiences. He clearly understands who his base is these days--ethnic (hispanics, filipinos), and "his generation". They have not captured the younger generation (boxing, by far, has the highest viewer average age of all sports on televsion), and have lost the casual sports fan. The average boxing viewer also has one of the lowest average incomes in all of sports, making it hard to sell $50 ppv's.

These are the problems guys like Arum must tackle, not attacking MMA/UFC unprovoked. All the intreviewer did was ask how the big boxing vs. UFC 103 battle would do---fact is, PBF is going to destroy UFC 103, but Arum has to make sure he dosen't give PBF any credit either., so he missed his chance to really take a legit shot at Dana White.

Unfortunately for Arum, he's playing catch up to both PBF & UFC, so he comes off like the bitter old coot that his is.

W2B, do you think the Mayweather fight will crush UFC 103? I'm not so sure. Guess it's how we define 'crush.'

Mayweather/Hatton did 850k US PPV buys. With a year-plus layoff and staying out of the public eye, I doubt Mayweather has increased his persona enough to do better than that, especially against a lesser name.

I figure Mayweather's fight will do at least over 600k. I expect UFC 103 (without a legit main event or a legit superstar draw) to do about 350k, give or take 50k.

If Mayweather doesn't do double the PPV business of UFC with Franklin, Belfort and Cro Cop, that would be rough.

Mayweather Marquez may do 2-300k if he is lucky.

PBF/Marquez first estimate is a minimum of 1 million buys. Probably more when all is said and done.

UFC 103 most likely won't come in at half of that.

I tried to tell you guys....

 

[BigBucs]

PBF/Marquez first estimate is a minimum of 1 million buys. Probably more when all is said and done.

UFC 103 most likely won't come in at half of that.

I tried to tell you guys....

Score one for boxing. I want to see the official numbers though. There are also reports that it will do close to 1.6mill

 

[JrRawlins]

The average boxing tv viewer age fluxtuates between 53-56 years of age.

More often than not it's the highest average age of any "major" sport in a given week. Higher than golf (although it's neck and neck sometimes). Not sure about the bowling, because I don't know if my source had up to date bowling figures.

Take this for what it's worth, but I got this from a very credible source. Don't ask me who, because you won't believe me anyway.

Not only do i need believe you and think you are full of shit... then you offer a "credible" source that we shouldnt ask about because you know we wont believe......


sounds like some bullshit to me...

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Not only do i need believe you and think you are full of shit... then you offer a "credible" source that we shouldnt ask about because you know we wont believe......


sounds like some bullshit to me...

Think what you want, man.

Better yet, research it yourself. Just promise to man up and admit i'm right.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Here you go. This is from a forum on a paysite, so I can't direct link. It should be obvious who the "dave" is. If you don't know who he is, trust me, he would know this stuff because it's pretty much all he does.

I'm not gonna copy/paste the whole thread, but here is his anwser to the main question:

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W2BTD




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Posted: 16 Sep 2009 03:29 GMT Post subject: What is the average viewer age for boxing?



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dave




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Posted: 16 Sep 2009 22:57 GMT Post subject:

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Early to mid-50s

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

This article dosen't state the exact age of the average boxing viewer, but you can read between the lines.

While Arum complains about shows not drawing for various excuses he comes up, his audience continues to skew older. Variety magazine recently reported that the average age for a viewer of broadcast network TV in America is 50. You wonder why CBS was desperate in making a deal with Elite XC to attract MMA’s younger audience?

Boxing as a sport is not dying and will not die – but its current audience is aging fast and certainly dying off.

The boxing audience skews "older", and the average TV viewer is 50. Think about that.
http://www.boxinginsider.com/column...ed-boxing-in-viral-and-grass-roots-marketing/