How Does Vince Young keep getting work?

[FirstTimer]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7919307/veteran-quarterback-vince-young-agrees-join-bills

Quarterback Vince Young has agreed to a one-year, $2 million contract with the Buffalo Bills, league sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.

Young can earn another $1 million in incentives, sources said. He is expected to join the team Monday. Young worked out for the Bills at the beginning of the month.


Young, in a statement released Friday afternoon, thanked general manager Buddy Nix and coach Chan Gailey.

"I am looking forward to playing with the guys and helping where I am needed," Young said. "I have always respected the Bills organization and I am looking forward to being a part of the team."

Young spent last season with the Philadelphia Eagles. He struggled in six games, throwing for 866 yards, four touchdowns and nine interceptions. Young also had a career-low 60.8 passer rating in 2011.

"We think adding Vince to our roster will create more competition for the backup quarterback position," Nix said in a statement. "He brings with him some unique physical abilities that most are aware of and that will make the competition interesting. It's all about improving our team."

Young has had an up-and-down career since being selected third overall by the Tennessee Titans in the 2006 draft. He was the NFL's offensive rookie of the year, but lost his starting job on several occasions in Tennessee before the Titans ran out of patience with him.

"The guy's been to two Pro Bowls, he's 31-19 as a starter in this league," Nix said. "We think he can do that again. If he has to play, he can give us a chance to win the game or at least this: He will make Tyler (Thigpen) better."

Gailey said it's premature to determine what Young's role might be until the player takes the field for practice. The first opportunity for that will come May 29, when the Bills open a monthlong series of minicamps.

Gailey, however, dismissed questions regarding Young's struggles in Philadelphia and his inconsistencies in Tennessee.

"I don't know any of the circumstances surrounding what happened. All I know is he's a talented guy that said all the right things when he was here," Gailey said, referring to Young's workout last week. "So, I'm looking forward to working with him."

The traditionally cost-conscious Bills have been free spenders this offseason after signing free-agent defensive end Mario Williams to a six-year, $100 million deal, the most expensive contract awarded to an NFL defensive player. They were also able to re-sign starting receiver Stevie Johnson before he became a free agent. Last week, they also awarded starting running back Fred Jackson a two-year contract extension.

"I'm sure he can still play," Jackson said of Young. "He's another playmaker for us. I'm sure they'll find ways to get him in there to compete. It's another good signing for us, so we'll see what happens."

 

[ralaw]

It just tells you how bad backup QB's in the league are.....in today's NFL the dropoff from the starter to the backup is substantial. Some would say Young is backing up someone who should be a backup.

 

[Senser81]

It also tells you how meaningless "pro bowls" are when judging QBs.

Young is an odd player. With how few good backups there are in the NFL at QB, Young's body of work justifies his employment, IMO. That said, I would not want him on my team as the backup QB, because you can't trust the guy. He's too much of a dumbass to go into a game cold and not totally screw it up. Give me a 42-year old Mark Brunell or Charlie Batch over "2-time pro bowler" Vince Young.

 

[RosettaStoned]

It just tells you how bad backup QB's in the league are.....in today's NFL the dropoff from the starter to the backup is substantial. Some would say Young is backing up someone who should be a backup.

 

[FirstTimer]

It just tells you how bad backup QB's in the league are.....in today's NFL the dropoff from the starter to the backup is substantial. Some would say Young is backing up someone who should be a backup.

Very true. Caleb Hanie was actually signed by an NFL team

:cano:

 

[JOHNNYTHECLOWN]

Is New England an exception to the back-up dropoff? Or is it just coaches getting these guys prepared properly?

I mean, Brady backed up Bledsoe, came in and led them to a Super Bowl win. Cassel came in and led Patriots to a 10-6 season, and could have gone farther if not for tiebreakers.

Cassel goes to KC, and falls off face of planet.

Before VY's breakdown, he wasn't an awful QB. A lot of the talk around him was similiar to that of Cam's.

Back up QB is a cozy job though, 2 Mil to hold a clipboard. Okay.

 

[Cornelius]

Very true. Caleb Hanie was actually signed by an NFL team

And widely backed by the fan base before he fell on his face this season.

 

[GoChargers]

Not many backup quarterbacks have started or won as many games as Young.. If you don't understand how he can get work, what does that say about at least 15-20 of the other backups who have worse stats than him?

 

[Rudi]

I could honestly see Vince starting at some point this season if Fitzpatrick is as shitty as he was last year. :kanye:

 

[Blick]

Bro... He has first round upside.

/Blick

Well, this thread had probably run its course, anyway...

Vince Young - 50 career starts. It seems like we know what he is at this point.

Quinn - 12 career starts. It's dishonest to say you know what he is at this point. He's been shitty so far, but there is still potential there.

You're now taking my quote out of context. I said "Both suck, but at least Quinn still has first round upside" when comparing him to Tyler Palko. Quinn has a skill set that once allowed him to be taken in the first round. That is an upside when the other guy is Tyler fucking Palko.

 

[Herm]

He might be cold if he cant keep his shirt on in Buffalo.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Well, this thread had probably run its course, anyway...

Vince Young - 50 career starts. It seems like we know what he is at this point.

Quinn - 12 career starts. It's dishonest to say you know what he is at this point. He's been shitty so far, but there is still potential there.

You're now taking my quote out of context. I said "Both suck, but at least Quinn still has first round upside" when comparing him to Tyler Palko. Quinn has a skill set that once allowed him to be taken in the first round. That is an upside when the other guy is Tyler fucking Palko.

While I see your point, look at what Yates did with the Texans this year. Or look in the past at Heath Shuler falling on his face, but Gus Frerotte stuck around for the NFL for some time and was a solid starter at times.

Both players you mentioned are still terrible, and I wouldn't want them starting but one game for my team, max.

 

[Rudi]

Well, this thread had probably run its course, anyway...

Vince Young - 50 career starts. It seems like we know what he is at this point.

Quinn - 12 career starts. It's dishonest to say you know what he is at this point. He's been shitty so far, but there is still potential there.

You're now taking my quote out of context. I said "Both suck, but at least Quinn still has first round upside" when comparing him to Tyler Palko. Quinn has a skill set that once allowed him to be taken in the first round. That is an upside when the other guy is Tyler fucking Palko.

You act like it's Quinns fault he has only started 12 times since being drafted...if he had that "1st round upside/talent" clearly he would have gotten more than 12 starts at this point in his career. Dude is a bum. :facepalm:

 

[Blick]

You act like it's Quinns fault he has only started 12 times since being drafted...if he had that "1st round upside/talent" clearly he would have gotten more than 12 starts at this point in his career. Dude is a bum. :facepalm:

No. It's not clear. Coaches are dumb.

That's like saying "coaches know best" in the special packages for Hester thread.

Todd Haley thought Tyler Palko was a viable backup last year.

Plenty of scenarios where coaches didn't know what they were doing or didn't know what they had in a player.

 

[Woy]

Brady Quinn's name doesn't belong in a Vince Young thread.

 

[Villain]

Not every team gets to have the luxury of a Colin Kaepernick.



(posted for the Aso thanks.)

 

[G-men]

No. It's not clear. Coaches are dumb.

That's like saying "coaches know best" in the special packages for Hester thread.

Todd Haley thought Tyler Palko was a viable backup last year.

Plenty of scenarios where coaches didn't know what they were doing or didn't know what they had in a player.

You really don't think that Quinn has had a fair enough chance to get a starting job? He came in for the Browns and fucking blew, on the same team that Derek Anderson took to a 10-6 record just a year earlier. Yeah, I know that teams can change drastically each year, but Quinn was given a clear opportunity to make that team his and failed to do so.

Is your whole point that Brady Quinn is better than Tyler Palko? Even if that is so, what exactly does that say about Quinn that he is being compared to Palko?

 

[Aso]

Not every team gets to have the luxury of a Colin Kaepernick.



(posted for the Aso thanks.)

This dude knows his stuff. Why is he not a mod?

 

[Blick]

You really don't think that Quinn has had a fair enough chance to get a starting job? He came in for the Browns and fucking blew, on the same team that Derek Anderson took to a 10-6 record just a year earlier. Yeah, I know that teams can change drastically each year, but Quinn was given a clear opportunity to make that team his and failed to do so.

Is your whole point that Brady Quinn is better than Tyler Palko? Even if that is so, what exactly does that say about Quinn that he is being compared to Palko?

Anderson went 3-6 as a starter on that team the next year. Quinn got 3 starts. Could he have done more in those 3 starts? Absolutely. Is 3 starts really a fair chance to do anything with the Browns? I don't think so. Cleveland then went on to start Ken Dorsey for 3 games and Bruce Gradkowski for one game. Quinn "fucking blew" as you said, but so did everyone else the Browns threw out there at QB that year. The expectations were higher for Quinn because he was a first round pick. Quinn didn't play well, but Cleveland wasn't very patient with him, either.

My main point is that you can't make a good judgement on a guy after only 12 starts for an inept franchise. That's just my opinion. I compared Quinn to Palko because that's who he is replacing, not because they have similar skill sets.

 

[Aso]

Quinn did have flashes, I'll give him that. He was fire in his debut against the Broncos.