is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?

[ram29jackson]

that stupid "bullying" word thrown around again.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...departure-jonathan-martin-143019868--nfl.html

The Miami Dolphins, including Coach Joe Philbin and Jonathan's teammates, have been in communication with Jonathan and his family since his departure from the club and continue to be in contact. Our primary concern for Jonathan is his overall health and well-being. As an organization, we take any accusations of player misconduct seriously. The notion of bullying is based on speculation and has not been presented to us as a concern from Jonathan or anyone else internally. The reports that the NFLPA is investigating our players are inaccurate. Additionally, the NFL offered its assistance during this time, which we appreciated and gladly accepted. We will continue to make Jonathan's health and well-being a focus as we do with all of our players."

In fact, Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel reporters Omar Kelly and Dave Hyde said Martin’s departure was a result of his previous emotional issues. There is no set timetable for his return.

Recently, a younger player was handed the tab for a $30,000 team dinner. The rookie minimum this year is around $400.000.

One young defensive player, whose privacy I'm protecting, has literally gone broke because he's been pressured to pay for older players.

 

[NAHSTE]

Well if you are constantly demanding rookies pay for you, you're probably an asshole. Some people get sick of dealing with assholes. Gonna need to hear more about the actual situation involving Martin though.

 

[ram29jackson]

Well if you are constantly demanding rookies pay for you, you're probably an asshole. Some people get sick of dealing with assholes. Gonna need to hear more about the actual situation involving Martin though.

how about something as simple as ...say "no" and walk away. Are people so stupid they cant do that and something this trivial becomes major news ? seriously ,unless Martin is depressed and suicidal , this is a waste of media attention and an example of really talented people in the pc everyone gets a trophy culture.

 

[Maynard]

how about something as simple as ...say "no" and walk away. Are people so stupid they cant do that and something this trivial becomes major news ? seriously ,unless Martin is depressed and suicidal , this is a waste of media attention and an example of really talented people in the pc everyone gets a trophy culture.

right, because you no anything about life or what goes on in a NFL locker room. anyone with half a brain would know this goes beyond Martin trying to offer a simple "no"

 

[ram29jackson]

right, because you no anything about life or what goes on in a NFL locker room. anyone with half a brain would know this goes beyond Martin trying to offer a simple "no"

for stupid people maybe but the fact is that's the answer that stops any of what they are referring to at the moment.

 

[Maynard]

for stupid people maybe but the fact is that's the answer that stops any of what they are referring to at the moment.

i guess you never heard of rookie hazing? oh, thats right...you know nothing about football

 

[1ke]

Not to mention I've seen it wasn't just Martin. It was a couple of younger players.

I was the first one calling dude a faggot, but as more slowly comes out, it seems the only way he thought he could stop it and finally say enough is enough was by leaving the squad. Apparently lots of his older teammates were loving and living up the Miami nightlife, all on rookies checks too.

 

[ram29jackson]

i guess you never heard of rookie hazing? oh, thats right...you know nothing about football

what the hell does that have to do with anything ? the players don't make the team based on any veteran players decisions or whether a rookie can tolerate pranks.

 

[Aso]

Tyron Smith his rookie year had to get a restraining order against his family because they kept asking and expecting money from him and the story didn't even really break until the season was over. I feel like if you handle shit the right way then you can keep your name out of the news. Martin more than likely handled this situation very poorly.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Martin, by all accounts, is very soft and fragile mentally. Supposedly, the players do fuck with him a lot, though. They nicknamed him "Big Weirdo" and are always ribbing him.

Sounds like Martin just hit a wall, with everything else (being moved to RT), just took flight.

 

[f16harm]

Martin is very soft, but also very intelligent. He also sucks so it's not that big of a loss and probably part of the problems he's having (i.e. can't take the criticism)

For the record, both of his parents are lawyers.... SHOCKER! So, my guess is that softy got sick of the shit and knew no one would take him serious if he attempted to stand up for himself, so mommy and daddy told him to play the legal card. Hence why he has left and now filed a formal complaint.

Hope guy likes his decision, because IMO all this does is begin to make his career even harder than it was. Even if on another team, players aren't going to want to trust him.

 

[JeremyHight]

Tampa is doing fine without him, they don't need to hit on all their draft picks. :shifty:

 

[Matt]

The boy is soft. Nothing more than that.

Thanks for allowing every sports media outlet to bring up "BULLYING IN THE LOCKER ROOM" :facepalm:

 

[Aso]

Richie Incognito has been suspended indefinitely for his alleged treatment of Jonathan Martin.

 

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[dave]

This is a case of extremes, IMO.

Martin is a millenial who has no clue how to deal with even a remote amount of bullying, because for his era, it's simply unacceptable.

Icongnito is a freak neanderthal who is on the other end of the spectrum and unable to establish when to draw a line (possibly steroid-fuelled, who knows).

There's a happy medium solution to this, but in all likelihood Martin wins outright and Incognito is outed for the moron that he likely is.

Edit: For all those who neg rep, I'm ok with that - but at least explain your neg rep and why you disagree.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Martin probably shouldn't take it so hard but if your his teammate you have to know when to lay off the guy.

 

[JimLeavy59]

This is a case of extremes, IMO.

Martin is a millenial who has no clue how to deal with even a remote amount of bullying, because for his era, it's simply unacceptable.

Icongnito is a freak neanderthal who is on the other end of the spectrum and unable to establish when to draw a line (possibly steroid-fuelled, who knows).

There's a happy medium solution to this, but in all likelihood Martin wins outright and Incognito is outed for the moron that he likely is.

Edit: For all those who neg rep, I'm ok with that - but at least explain your neg rep and why you disagree.

You're a fucking cunt for adding that to your post.

 

[dave]

Martin probably shouldn't take it so hard but if your his teammate you have to know when to lay off the guy.

I agree. I work with millenials who are different than I am, from a different era. I realize I can't deal with them the same way I banter with people my age.

 

[dave]

You're a fucking cunt for adding that to your post.

Damn, I can't thank that post.