Japan drought coming to an end? G1 Final, 7/22 NOAH links in this thread, AWARD TALK!

[Warner2BruceTD]

Lots of stuff emerged today. Have at it, fellas:

G1 FINAL: Kazuchika Okada vs Karl "Machine Gun" Anderson

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xssu4b_kazuchika-okada-vs-karl-machine-gun-anderson-njpw_sport"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xssu4b_kazuchika-okada-vs-karl-machine-gun-anderson-njpw_sport" target="_blank">Kazuchika Okada vs Karl "Machine Gun" Anderson...</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/Jahmale_Hepburn" target="_blank">Jahmale_Hepburn</a></i>


7/22/12 Complete NOAH show can be found here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x26ypq/1#video=xstmqx

Loaded show, here is the card spoiler free, i'm pissed that I read the results, didn't expect this to emerge so quickly:

NOAH "GREAT VOYAGE 2012 IN RYOGOKU", 22.07.2012 (G+)
Tokyo Ryogoku Kokugikan

1. Starting Point Revolution ~ Classmates Confrontation: Taiji Ishimori v. Masa Takanashi
2. von Erich Brothers Japanese Debut Match: Mikey Nicholls & Shane Haste v. Ross von Erich & Marshall von Erich
3. NOAH vs. Diamond Ring - Master & Student Tag Confrontation: Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima v. Akira Taue & Genba Hirayanagi
4. Special Singles Match - Yoshiaki Fujiwara-ism Legend: Mohammed Yone v. Yoshiaki Fujiwara
5. Special Singles Match - NOAH vs. DDT: Kota Ibushi v. Atsushi Kotoge
6. Special Singles Match - NO MERCY vs. WNC: TAJIRI v. Maybach Tanaguchi
7. KENTA Return Match: Naomichi Marufuji v. KENTA
8. GHC Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Title: Super Crazy & Ricky Marvin v. Kotaro Suzuki & Atsushi Aoki (c)
9. GHC Jr. Heavyweight Title: Yoshinobu Kanemaru (c) v. Christopher Daniels
10. GHC Tag Team Title: Samoa Joe & Magnus v. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito (c)
11. GHC Heavyweight Title: Takeshi Morishima (c) v. Go Shiozaki

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

sound is fucked up for the G1 Final, beggars cant be choosers oh well

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

G1 Final is awesome.

Okada is really, really great. LOL TNA.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Watched half of the NOAH show, gonna catch the rest tmw.

1. Good action in the opener. I love Ishimori. Wasn't familiar with the DDT wrestler, Takanashi, but he impressed me. Some fun spots here. It's short, watch it.

2. This was the match I posted a few days ago. Haste & Nicholls lookes really, really good. Much improved from previous tours. Von Erichs are green but weren't offensive.

3. I'm not going to rip Taue. Legend, Hall of Famer, all of that. He wrestles a few times per year, this is one of those times. Not nearly as ugly as I thought it would be. Kinda fun, actually. Skippable unless you love Kensuke & Nakajima.

4. Meh. Fujiwara, same boat as Taue. Old as fuck. Went for the FUJIWARA ARM BAR at the opening bell, fans bought it as the finish, so that was interesting. Skippable.

5. Kotoge is on loan from All Japan, so this was actually All Japan vs DDT in a NOAH ring. I loved this match. Kotoge is loaded with potential. Ibushi looked great, first time ive seen him since the injury lay off. They worked well together. This is a must watch. Good stuff.

I will say, there is a definite vibe in the arena during this show. This just feels like a big show. Maybe people were amped for KENTA's return. idk. But this is an atmosphere that NOAH has lacked for a long time. Can't wait to watch the rest.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Nice find.

Enjoyed the shit outta the Okada-Anderson match. The way Okada blocked the Anderson finisher attempts was a nice touch. Really come to enjoy Okada since he initially won the IWGP title.

I actually found individual match downloads for Morishima-Shiozaki and Marafuji-KENTA, too.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I don't think I've ever heard your thoughts on Karl Anderson, W2B?

I know you aren't a big Bernard fan...but thoughts on Anderson? Also, thoughts on his push.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Not a big Anderson fan, no strong opinion either way, similar to Robert Roode/James Storm for me where if he's with the right person he delivers. I was not a fan of the Bernard/Anderson team and prefer Anderson as a single. Also like him better as a face.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Nice find.

Enjoyed the shit outta the Okada-Anderson match. The way Okada blocked the Anderson finisher attempts was a nice touch. Really come to enjoy Okada since he initially won the IWGP title.

I actually found individual match downloads for Morishima-Shiozaki and Marafuji-KENTA, too.

The Rainmaker has to be Move of the Year. It looks great, and they've protected the fuck out of it. Okada hits it, you die.

Okada vs Tanahashi at WrestleKingdom is going to be bananas. BANANAS.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I'm just saying this right now.

Okada v. Tanahashi has been the feud of the year.

Tell me otherwise.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'm just saying this right now.

Okada v. Tanahashi has been the feud of the year.

Tell me otherwise.

Jericho v Punk
Yuji Nagata v Funaki/All Japan
Gargano v Taylor

Cant even really think of much else. Am I missing something obvious? I feel like I am. Aries v Roode? Styles v Daniels? Idk. I agree, im digging Tanahashi/Okada.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Jericho/Punk was good, but I felt like it lacked punch. Matches were good though.
Haven't caught much of Nagata/Funaki.
Gargano/Taylor, considering the blowoff, has been pretty damn good start to finish. Very well put together feud.
Aries/Roode was a good program, not sure if I out right think it was a feud.

Gargano/Taylor would really be the only competition.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

How you interpret the award matters, too.

Are you simply looking for something that had a good story and provided good action? Or something that drew money, which ultimately is the real measure of a great feud? Or a combination of both?

For me, the only one that punches every chad is Tanahashi/Okada.

Gargano/Taylor was an old school territory style story. Partners, friends, one turns on the other out of jealousy, superhero babyface vs pussy heel, old school violent "I Quit" blow off. It almost tells itself, it's classic, timeless, and always works. But it did nothing at the gate. I've had more people in my backyard for bbq's than EVOLVE draws, and DGUSA saw no bump either.

On the flip side, you have stuff like Rock/Cena that drew a lot of money, but really it was only one match during the voting period, and it was essentially over by April 3rd or whatever.

We don't know how HHH/Lesnar will turn out yet at the gate (ratings aren't moving, though), but it has a lot of work to do in terms of story. Could you imagine this turd if Heyman wasn't around to keep it afloat? If they have a great match and this thing gets some momentum, you can throw it in, but now we're reaching.

I agree that Punk/Jericho lacked something. I don't know what.

Punk/Bryan was all in ring, AJ killed it for me, did nothing for business if that matters to you.

Steen v Cornette? Steen v Davey Richards? #teambandit vs Children of the Corn geeks? (TONY KOZINA, WHEELMAN!)

Bully Ray vs Joe Parks?

Team TNA vs Team AAA?

Kenny King vs Cornette's handshake?

I've got nothin.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Okada is going to clean up this year.

Hands down "Most Improved". Nobody in his galaxy.

He is the "Wrestler of the Year" right now in my view, especially since WWE has no serious contenders.

"Most Outstanding Wrestler" should be Okada, but it could go back to Daniel Bryan after losing for the first time in many years, because people will feel good voting for him again now that he's in high profile matches. El Generico is a darkhorse, too. Devitt is likely out because he was hurt a lot, and those NJPW votes will vote for Okada. Richards is M.I.A. and is probably not a contender to repeat.

"Move of the Year" has to be Rainmaker, I already explained my stance, and its funny because we just talked about this on twitter earlier tonight.

"Feud of the Year" vs Tanahashi.

He has several "Match of the Year" contenders, which might actually hurt him because the vote will be split. Davey Richards vs Michael Elgin will get all of the ROH fans votes, and the WWE fan vote will go to Undertaker/Triple H.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I just had a long post that was lost discussing some awards...I'm not re-writing, butoverall points.

Okada is a good choice for Wrestler of the Year, because it is a year where there isn't a lot of top guys that have had a series of top matches. But, for my money, I would like to nominate Austin Aries. On his ascension to the top, he legitimized the companies top two titles and was the most vital cog in turning TNA from an ESPN-AWA bad product to one of the hotter, more legitimate products around, especially in the US. He isn't a draw, he doesn't pop a buyrate, whatever...but I think I want to award Aries importance with this award.

Okada though, does clean up on Most Improved, Move of the Year, and Feud of the Year.

Davey Richards v. Michael Elgin got 5-stars from me, and while I give them out pretty easily, its the only one from me for 2012 (only one from 2011).

 

[EmpireWF]

Aries isn't a total stretch, assuming he isn't railroaded between now and November, or whenever the WON time period ends.

The only candidate from WWE is Punk and he's been placed in the back seat the entire year. He isn't even the top figure for them, despite being champion all year, with more emphasis put on Cena, Rock, Brock and HHH. However, Punk has had some great matches this year and is with the biggest and most profitable company.

It's unlikely Tanahashi wins his second in a row (only Race, Flair, Kobashi and Jericho have done that) and it does seem like Okada would be the choice of anyone out of Japan.

Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being 1. Punk, 2. Okada and 3. Aries with Tanahashi or a Dragon Gate/CMLL guy pulling up the rear....if Punk gets even the slightest bit of a push to finish the year. Otherwise, it really is a toss-up that Okada benefits from.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Aries won't win or threaten. TNA does not do enough business. I suspect he will place, but I doubt he cracks the top three.

But then there is this...

TNA DESTINATION X PPV POLL RESULTS (july 2012)
Thumbs up 111 (100.0%)
Thumbs down 0 (00.0%)
In the middle 0 (00.0%)

TNA SLAMMIVERSARY PPV POLL RESULTS (june 2012)
Thumbs up 123 (99.2%)
Thumbs down 0 (00.0%)
In the middle 1 (00.8%)

TNA SACRIFICE PPV POLL RESULTS (may 2012)
Thumbs up 41 (100.0%)
Thumbs down 0 (00.0%)
In the middle 0 (00.0%)

I don't think i've seen a multi month run of PPV's in my life where not a single show got a single "thumbs down" from the cynical fucks who read the Observer. Granted, the vote totals aren't very high for TNA, but still. This is especially amazing considering that pre Aries push during the Russo era they could barey muster a single thumbs up. The turn around has been drastic and incredible, but business has yet to show any signs of turning. That does take time, though. If TNA starts to tick up by November and Aries is still on top, you have to consider him.

Cena has had a very good year. The guy has more good matches than he ever gets credit for. But this year more than ever has been a "community" effort in the WWE, with nobody standing out. I don't see the winner coming from the WWE.

All Japan, NOAH, AAA, CMLL, ROH have nobody that can win. Dragon Gate has CIMA, who is on top in Japan and in DGUSA, and is having a fine year, but he can't and shouldn't win. Top indie guys like Gargano, Kingston, Generico etc have no chance but will get token votes.

People who can realistically win in my opinion, in no particular order:
Okada
Tanahashi
Punk
Cena
Bryan (longshot, but consider the voting pool, and fuck, he has been great ffs)
Rock (longshot, but there are old school voters who only care about business and business only for this award, but thats what "Best Box Office Draw" is for)

In the mix to place, need to do a lot more to win:
CIMA
Aries
Jun Akiyama (sneaky good year on top in All Japan & NOAH)
Naito (fading, as the focus shifts to Okada/Tanahashi)
Steen (was Rhode Island a fluke? wont matter anyway)
Robert Roode (if Aries cant win though, neither can he)
Lesnar (see Rock)

No chance, will get vanity votes:
Gargano
Akira Tozawa (neither DG branch pulled the trigger!)
El Generico
Eddie Kingston
Marufuji
Taguchi (better suited for Most Outstanding)
Sheamus
Jericho

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The damage TNA did to its product in the Russo years will take years of good faith to not only rebuild whatever they've lost, but to add on top of that will take exponentially more time.

Word of mouth will travel fast to those that have turned TNA off. Getting to new eyes and ears is going to be tougher. I'm of the belief that there simply isn't much of a market share for TNA to eat up, unfortunately, to get numbers that will give them that big big boost. However, I do think with lots of time and good faith, TNA can develop on their TV ratings. They were always shockingly consistent in regards to viewers during their worst years. Some good faith, good product, and word of mouth I think can help ratings. Buyrates? IMO, they should start at a lower price point. What are they at these days...$35? I'd try and use this good product to coincide with a reduced PPV price...they've been hitting PPVs out of the park recently and I'd want to see if they can get more eyes on those.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Took this from another site, in case anybody is interested.

NJPW WPW TV 8/12/12 w/ G-1 Climax 2012 HIGHLIGHTS

Thanks to OLDPOEM

Clips from these G1 Climax 2012 matches

Nakamura v Okada
Anderson v Benjamin
Tanahasi v Marufuji
Yano v Suzuki

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Clips, I know, but probably the only way to see a lot of this. Tanahashi/Marufuji. Nakamura/Okada.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Watched half of the NOAH show, gonna catch the rest tmw.

1. Good action in the opener. I love Ishimori. Wasn't familiar with the DDT wrestler, Takanashi, but he impressed me. Some fun spots here. It's short, watch it.

2. This was the match I posted a few days ago. Haste & Nicholls lookes really, really good. Much improved from previous tours. Von Erichs are green but weren't offensive.

3. I'm not going to rip Taue. Legend, Hall of Famer, all of that. He wrestles a few times per year, this is one of those times. Not nearly as ugly as I thought it would be. Kinda fun, actually. Skippable unless you love Kensuke & Nakajima.

4. Meh. Fujiwara, same boat as Taue. Old as fuck. Went for the FUJIWARA ARM BAR at the opening bell, fans bought it as the finish, so that was interesting. Skippable.

5. Kotoge is on loan from All Japan, so this was actually All Japan vs DDT in a NOAH ring. I loved this match. Kotoge is loaded with potential. Ibushi looked great, first time ive seen him since the injury lay off. They worked well together. This is a must watch. Good stuff.

I will say, there is a definite vibe in the arena during this show. This just feels like a big show. Maybe people were amped for KENTA's return. idk. But this is an atmosphere that NOAH has lacked for a long time. Can't wait to watch the rest.

Just watched KENTA/Marufuji.

Awesome. Not sure why this hasn't gotten more buzz. MOTY contender for sure. Faster pace then i've seen them work against each other, and told a good story with Maru working the knee of the returning KENTA.

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xsto4y"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsto4y_07-kenta-vs-naomichi-marufuji-noah-07-22-12_sport" target="_blank">07. KENTA vs Naomichi Marufuji - (NOAH 07/22/12)</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/SenorLARIATO" target="_blank">SenorLARIATO</a></i>

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

NOAH "GREAT VOYAGE 2012 IN RYOGOKU", 22.07.2012 (G+)
Tokyo Ryogoku Kokugikan

1. Starting Point Revolution ~ Classmates Confrontation: Taiji Ishimori v. Masa Takanashi
2. von Erich Brothers Japanese Debut Match: Mikey Nicholls & Shane Haste v. Ross von Erich & Marshall von Erich
3. NOAH vs. Diamond Ring - Master & Student Tag Confrontation: Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima v. Akira Taue & Genba Hirayanagi
4. Special Singles Match - Yoshiaki Fujiwara-ism Legend: Mohammed Yone v. Yoshiaki Fujiwara
5. Special Singles Match - NOAH vs. DDT: Kota Ibushi v. Atsushi Kotoge
6. Special Singles Match - NO MERCY vs. WNC: TAJIRI v. Maybach Tanaguchi
7. KENTA Return Match: Naomichi Marufuji v. KENTA
8. GHC Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Title: Super Crazy & Ricky Marvin v. Kotaro Suzuki & Atsushi Aoki (c)
9. GHC Jr. Heavyweight Title: Yoshinobu Kanemaru (c) v. Christopher Daniels
10. GHC Tag Team Title: Samoa Joe & Magnus v. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito (c)
11. GHC Heavyweight Title: Takeshi Morishima (c) v. Go Shiozaki

Still working my way through this.

Crazy/Marvin vs Aoki/Suzuki is off the charts fantastic. Between that & the KENTA/Maru match, this show has been awesome. If not for some of the bad undercard filler, this is a show of the year contender if the last three deliver, but I heard Daniels/Kanemaru sucked.