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Matt Kemp is Destroying Worlds

Villain

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So I remembered this blog post from back during Spring Training:

http://mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2011/03/24/matt-kemp-is-going-to-destroy-worlds/

If you don't want to bother with the click, here is the post in spoilers.

 
I’ve been relentlessly down on James Loney for a while now*, just like I was on Russell Martin. I’ve said that Casey Blake is cooked, Mike MacDougal isn’t to be counted on, left field is a mess, and Andre Ethier can’t hit lefties. I’m occasionally accused of being too negative, and while that might be true, there’s a lot to worry about regarding the 2011 Dodgers.

(*Regarding Loney, I’d like to note here that I’m in an NL-only draft with several of my Baseball Prospectus cohorts, in a league which requires full 40-man rosters. As you can imagine, the pickings in the lower rounds of this draft are beyond slim. We’re in the 35th round, so over 400 players are off the board. Loney remains available.)

All that being said, I do want to take this opportunity to reiterate something optimistic that I’ve been saying all winter: Matt Kemp is going to have a monster year.

This all goes back to last October, where I argued that while 2010 was definitely disappointing, particularly on defense and on the bases, as far as “disaster” years go, you can certainly do worse than a 107 OPS+ and a career-high 28 homers. That’s not excusing him, but it’s just recognizing that he wasn’t exactly Andruw Jones circa 2008, either. Remember, this is what I said about him on the final day of the season, October 3:

His clashes with the current coaching staff have been well-documented – though he seems to have a good relationship with Don Mattingly – and if there’s anyone who looks to benefit from the post-Torre era, it might just be Kemp, my early choice for the “No, Chad Billingsley’s career wasn’t dead after one bad year either, now was it?” award next year.

My positive feelings about him continued in his 2010 season in review piece later that month, where I noted that he had not only taken responsibility for his subpar year, he’d ended the season on a five-homers-in-five-games tear while ridding himself of the distractions that had derailed his season – Joe Torre, Larry Bowa, Bob Schaefer, and even Rhianna, if you believe in that sort of thing. (Rob Neyer had a great look at the shortcomings of the 2010 coaching staff, too.) Again, Kemp is not to be excused for being unable to work through all that, but nor should it be ignored that from all indications, he wasn’t getting a lot of support internally either.

My optimism increased when we learned more about how Mattingly was relating to the younger players, and particularly when his staff was finalized and it included both Tim Wallach and Davey Lopes, who’s renowned as one of – if not the best – baserunning coaches in baseball and who has seemingly made it his mission to turn Kemp around.

I bring this up today not just because Kemp has hit five homers with a .320 batting average this spring, though those are both great signs. It’s also because of Dylan Hernandez’ story on Kemp’s relationship with Lopes from today’s Los Angeles Times, which is full of Kemp and Lopes saying exactly the right things, with some real physical changes to back them up.

On Kemp’s improved relationship with Lopes as opposed to Bowa & Schaefer:

He says Lopes will help him steal more bases. The player who used to be extremely thin-skinned about his shortcomings sounds almost proud recalling how his new coach made him recognize the mistakes he used to make. He even goes out of his way to reveal that the dignified former Dodgers infielder has a sense of humor.

“We’re having fun and getting work done at the same time,” Kemp says.

Conversations with Kemp about coaches weren’t always like this. Asked last season about his coaches, Kemp often turned defensive. He said he had no problem with Bob Schaefer, the since-departed bench coach with whom he had an in-game blowup. He said the same about the also-exiled Larry Bowa, whom Stewart called out for making critical comments directed at his client.

But Kemp never said he liked Schaefer or Bowa, either.

On Lopes helping Kemp with his baserunning:

So, as soon as spring training opened, even while most position players were still at their off-season homes, Kemp and Lopes got to work on the back fields of the team’s Camelback Ranch training facility.

Standing near first base, Lopes asked Kemp to show him how he took leads and broke to second base, or how he retreated to first base on a pickoff attempt.

Lopes noticed something: wasted motion.

On Kemp being in shape…

Kemp, who lost 15 pounds while working out with professional sprinters over the winter, says he absorbed what Lopes taught him.

On Lopes improving Kemp’s defense:

Also in charge of preparing the Dodgers’ outfield, Lopes offered Kemp similar advice on playing defense.

Instead of leaning forward with hands on knees in center field, Lopes wants Kemp to stay a little more upright.

“When you set down and rise up, the ball’s already on you,” Lopes says.

I realize it’s spring, and that everyone has a nice, rosy outlook this time of the year. That’s fine, and it’ll take more than some spring dingers and saying the right things to prove Kemp right. But the signs are all there for a massive year – no one’s questioned his talent, but now he’s motivated to prove himself, with distractions gone and the right instruction in place.

Matt Kemp is still just 26. The two-year contract he signed after 2009 is up this year. He’s got a lot to prove – and mark my words, he’s going to do it
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So with pre-season hype on Matt Kemp proving true, what's your take on him? Should the Bison be the NL MVP if he keeps up this pace?
 
He's not going to win MVP, and he might not even finish top 3, but he had a really good shot until Upton and Fielder/Braun distinguished themselves. He and Reyes were the front runners at the break.

You can win the MVP on a losing club in a down year for candidates but once those three emerged from playoff teams it was all she wrote for Kemp and Tulo.

He is a very awesome player though. It's a shame the rest of the Dodgers are such a mess because he and Kershaw are gems.
 
Offensively, he's having a great season, offensively speaking. His defense is, once again, rather mundane. Truth be told, he should probably be a corner outfielder.

Anyway, he's due arbitration next year, correct? And then a free agent after next season?
 
I'll take Ryan Braun for NL MVP. His defense is lackluster, but he's the best hitter in the NL by a large margin this year.
 
I'll take Ryan Braun for NL MVP. His defense is lackluster, but he's the best hitter in the NL by a large margin this year.

:lolwut:

Matt Kemp is batting out of his brain without Fielder hitting behind him. Most of the season Matt Kemp has had an emo Ethier in front of him and James Loney, Juan Uribe, or Marcus Thames hitting behind him. It's only been recently that Juan Rivera has been a hot hitter behind him and Loney is finally finding his swing. Kemp has been doing this all year despite huge team controversies involving ownership and fan beatings. He also has four walk-off hits this season.

Braun is an awesome hitter and maybe they second best Jew to ever put on a baseball uniform and has definitely been playing like an MVP - but "best hitter by a large margin" is pretty ridiculous.

Kemp: 31 HR, 100 RBI, 33 SB, .323/.392/.579 - 7.1 WAR
Braun: 25 HR, 87 RBI, 30 SB, .332/.403/.591 - 6.5 WAR

Defensive stats don't mean as much to me but for what it's worth: Kemp's dWAR this year is .7 and Braun is .4. Kemp's 2009 Gold Glove season had a dWAR of .6.
 
Yea, I have to agree with Villian. Kemp is going apeshit right now. Frankly, I don't think there's a better hitter in the NL right now. Maybe in all of baseball.
 
:lolwut:

Matt Kemp is batting out of his brain without Fielder hitting behind him. Most of the season Matt Kemp has had an emo Ethier in front of him and James Loney, Juan Uribe, or Marcus Thames hitting behind him. It's only been recently that Juan Rivera has been a hot hitter behind him and Loney is finally finding his swing. Kemp has been doing this all year despite huge team controversies involving ownership and fan beatings. He also has four walk-off hits this season.
Who cares about any of this? MVP should be the best player in the league for the particular season. That's Ryan Braun, not Kemp. You point out that Kemp has no protection behind him, pitchers have been throwing him junk all year and he's been swinging at it. 22.5% strike out rate! Braun's is a much more passable 14.6%.

Braun is an awesome hitter and maybe they second best Jew to ever put on a baseball uniform and has definitely been playing like an MVP - but "best hitter by a large margin" is pretty ridiculous.

Kemp: 31 HR, 100 RBI, 33 SB, .323/.392/.579 - 7.1 WAR
Braun: 25 HR, 87 RBI, 30 SB, .332/.403/.591 - 6.5 WAR
Nice of you to fail to mention that Braun has missed 12 games this year due to an injury. Kemp on the other hand has only missed 2! Judging by his current numbers, Braun would be very close to Kemp's HR and SB numbers if he hadn't missed those games, while also holding a substantial lead in the rate stats. LOL at mentioning RBIs in an MVP discussion btw.

If you want to know why Ryan Braun should be the NL MVP, look no farther then his slash line.
.334(2nd)/.406(3rd)/.593(1st)
That slash line is hands down the best in the NL, nothing else is close. His OPS is 35 points higher then Kemp's. Ryan Braun also leads the NL in wOBA. One of the highest regarded statistics in the sabermetric community for judging a player. Braun's wOBA is .438, no one else is close to that number in the NL.

Defensive stats don't mean as much to me but for what it's worth: Kemp's dWAR this year is .7 and Braun is .4. Kemp's 2009 Gold Glove season had a dWAR of .6.
Both players are brutal defensively. There's no doubt that Kemp should be moved to a corner outfield. Such a move would drop his WAR by at least a run due to positional adjustments. I think it's unlikely that his improved (poor) defense would allow him to make up the difference.
 
I don't know who I think should be MVP yet, but the day that stats like wOBA and K% are used as serious criteria, is the day I finally give up and watch tennis all summer.
 
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I don't know who I think should be MVP yet, but the day that stats like wOBA and K% are used as serious criteria, is the day I finally give up and watch tennis all summer.

wOBA's not a bad stat at all, it gives more weight to certain events but is not that different than other rate stats. And what is so bad with K rate? I'm not saying it should dictate award voting, but it along with BB% are pretty useful and straight forward evaluation tools. The fact that one player draws more walks, or strikes out fewer times, than another player is worth mentioning if everything else is relatively equal.

As for Braun over Kemp, I don't have a dog in the race but I'm sure the voters will vote for Braun, Fielder or Upton before they vote for a player on a losing team. That's just the way the voters work.
 
So you're telling me to discount Kemp's superior numbers because Braun missed more games? So Braun is more valuable because he doesn't show up as often? In other words his numbers come in a smaller sample size? If you don't think it makes a difference to hit in a line-up with protection behind you then you must be high. Go ahead and compare Adrian Gonzales' numbers as a member of the Red Sox to his numbers as a Padre when he was the only decent player on the field.

:crazy:


As for Braun over Kemp, I don't have a dog in the race but I'm sure the voters will vote for Braun, Fielder or Upton before they vote for a player on a losing team. That's just the way the voters work.

Sad thing is that I think you're right, but I have to mention that Cy Young awards went to Greinke and King Felix when their teams did absolutely nothing.
 
If you don't think it makes a difference to hit in a line-up with protection behind you then you must be high.

Or you may have read the numerous studies that conclude that lineup protection is a myth.

Go ahead and compare Adrian Gonzales' numbers as a member of the Red Sox to his numbers as a Padre when he was the only decent player on the field.

Yeah, going from one of the worst hitters' parks in baseball to one of the best hitters' parks in baseball probably had very little to do with this.
 
So you're telling me to discount Kemp's superior numbers because Braun missed more games? So Braun is more valuable because he doesn't show up as often? In other words his numbers come in a smaller sample size? If you don't think it makes a difference to hit in a line-up with protection behind you then you must be high. Go ahead and compare Adrian Gonzales' numbers as a member of the Red Sox to his numbers as a Padre when he was the only decent player on the field.

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Sad thing is that I think you're right, but I have to mention that Cy Young awards went to Greinke and King Felix when their teams did absolutely nothing.
In my opinion the MVP award should go to the best all around player in baseball. Once you start factoring in the success of the team, or the players' teammates, you're doing it wrong. These things should not factor into the decision. You bring up the fact that Felix Hernandez deserved the Cy Young despite a lack of wins. Hence the voters should ignore the fact that Hernandez wasn't surrounded my a talented team. And then you compare it Kemp's lack of surrounding talent in the Dodger's lineup. Why should voter's ignore Hernandez's lack of support, while acknowledging Kemp's? You can't have your cake and eat it too!

You seem to have also missed the point on Braun's missed games. He's accumulated comparable amounts of steals and home runs, despite playing less games. This is why I favor stats like wOBA, OPS, and ISO. They show who is the better hitter, without being dependent on playing time.
 
Also, as a Brewer fan I laugh at the inclusion of Prince Fielder in the MVP discussion. He's having a great year, in his final year in Milwaukee. It certainly is a great story. But he shouldn't even be on a top five list.
 
In my opinion the MVP award should go to the best all around player in baseball. Once you start factoring in the success of the team, or the players' teammates, you're doing it wrong.
These things should not factor into the decision. You bring up the fact that Felix Hernandez deserved the Cy Young despite a lack of wins. Hence the voters should ignore the fact that Hernandez wasn't surrounded my a talented team. And then you compare it Kemp's lack of surrounding talent in the Dodger's lineup. Why should voter's ignore Hernandez's lack of support, while acknowledging Kemp's? You can't have your cake and eat it too!

Brewers are in 1st place - the Dodgers are 10 games back... Last I checked Braun was on the Brewers and Kemp on the Dodgers. So... yeah. I think you are a little confused about what I was saying. Kemp is still putting up mega numbers despite being on a team almost mathematically out of contention. Braun is on a team that is producing regularly on a team that can't seem to stop winning.

You seem to have also missed the point on Braun's missed games. He's accumulated comparable amounts of steals and home runs, despite playing less games. This is why I favor stats like wOBA, OPS, and ISO. They show who is the better hitter, without being dependent on playing time.

So you didn't read that post of mine earlier or what? It's still there, see if you can find it.
 
Kemp: .319 AVG, 31 HR, 100 RBI, .391 OBP, .572 SLG, .962 OPS, 35 SB, 7 CS, 83.3%
Braun: .334 AVG, 25 HR, 88 RBI, .406 OBP, .593 SLG, .999 OPS, 30 SB, 4 CS, 88.2%

So Kemp has 6 more HR's, 12 more RBI's, but Braun is leading in pretty much every other stat.

Kemp: 59 BB, 127 K's
Braun: 53 BB, 75 K's

Please explain how Kemp is the better hitter?
 
Brewers are in 1st place - the Dodgers are 10 games back... Last I checked Braun was on the Brewers and Kemp on the Dodgers. So... yeah. I think you are a little confused about what I was saying. Kemp is still putting up mega numbers despite being on a team almost mathematically out of contention. Braun is on a team that is producing regularly on a team that can't seem to stop winning.



So you didn't read that post of mine earlier or what? It's still there, see if you can find it.
The record of the team they play for is irrelevant. Stop bringing it up. Where in your post do you acknowledge that Braun is better then Kemp in every relevant stat but homeruns and stolen bases? And Kemp has had 50 more plate appearances!
 
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Okay, this is the point in the debate where I can tell that everything I say from here will just be me rewording everything I've already said. Fact is that Brewers fan will think Braun deserves it and Dodgers fan will think Kemp deserves it. They both have awesome numbers that are almost identical and honestly I think they're both worthy. We're debating over inches. I was only trying to prove that I don't think that Ryan Braun has not been head and shoulders above everyone - especially Kemp.

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