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I talked a little while ago to a former player under Dungy (who is now retired) and got his POV on the "Cowher to the Bucs" situation. First, I want to preface what I am about to say with a warning. I do not have links b/c this was a conversation and second, I have a bit of a track record for posting reliable info. With that being said please refrain from hijacking the thread or flaming me. You DON'T have to believe me and if you don't - I don't care. I just figured I would share the news b/c I know there are some people who will appreciate it.

Anyway, talked with this player about the situation and his take was that the decision to move on has already happened. His words were "Man, that train has already left the station." Now, this doesn't mean that Cowher coaches the Bucs in 2010. What it means is that the job is Cowher's if he wants it. If Cowher declines the job, the Glazers will refute the reports and provide a public vote of confidence to Raheem for 2010. He also said that Raheem winning against the Saints does nothing for his job security...even if he wins this week against Atlanta. What will drive his dismissal is the season-ticket sales and they are dropping like flies right now. So with the lack of season-ticket sales and if Cowher accepts the job - Raheem is gone. If Cowher declines the job...Raheem stays despite lagging ticket sales b/c the Glazers do not want to present an image of another rebuild.

A couple of other things to note is that the Glazers are very private people and no news gets out unless they want it to. The Glazers typically do not address rumors. However, a quick statement released through the team stating that Raheem will be back in 2010 would do a lot to quell the questions that the local media is posing to Raheem. Fact is, a lot of this is being orchestrated by the Glazers to gauge the public interest in removing Raheem as well.

This is the same blueprint the Glazers used when they fired Tony Dungy after the 2001 season. Per this player, any news of the coach being fired causes a huge distraction for everyone - regardless of what is said to the media. According to this player, all the talk of Parcells taking over before Dungy was actually fired was a distraction. According to him, they were told by people in football ops that Parcells was coming and that he was getting a staff together. The only reason Parcells didn't come was b/c of a gaffe on his part. Not due to a change of heart as reported by the media. Apparently, Parcells just started calling all of his former assistants directly. Many of these coaches were already coaching for other teams and those respective teams were not informed, nor was permission granted to speak to those assistants. Accusations of tampering were being thrown around and Parcells simply backed out rather than face the controversey that may have awaited his arrival in Tampa.

So there you have it! Cowher has talked to the Glazers. There is interest and he will be the only person to replace Raheem. If he declines the job, the Glazers will release a statement which indicates that the courtship never actually took place.
 
Why do people drool over this fucking guy? It took him how many fucking years to win a Super Bowl with Pittsburgh? What a fucking joke :smh:

He's a great evaluator of defensive talent...a Cowher coached team will always have a top defense. Pair him with a good offensive coordinator, and you're set.
 
Well my brother is good friends with Cowher and I have talked to her a few times. I have also talked to Bill at Carolina Hurricanes games. From what I understand Bill does not want to come back to a team that is in a rebuilding stage.
 
Building great from the draft requires you to retain a lot of those players. I can see Cowher in TB drafting some great players, only to lose them down the road to free agency because the Glazers aren't going to spend. I know that's years down, but it's going to take a while to get to that point by building through the draft anyways.

On a side not, I think teams are crazy to not wanna build through the draft in this day and age. It's worked for all the elite organizations.

Sounds like you just described the Pittsburgh Steelers of the 1990s to a T.
 
who is the gm in tampa? dont forget that cohwer had colbert with him in pittsburgh as his gm.

Mark Dominik is currently the GM. It's still a toss-up whether he will stay or not. However, the name that has been mentioned to me is Kevin Colbert as someone who may come down to join Cowher due to a rather healthy working relationship in Pittsburgh. However, I am under the impression that he currently acts as the Director of Pro Personnel in Pittsburgh.
 
I think the Glazers would be more than happy to spend on the Bucs if they got a return on their investment. throwing around another 30 million dollars wouldnt have made this season a whole lot better. Do you really think if Bill Cowher tells them he wants a guy or wants to keep a guy they are going to say no?

*edit* also, I don't buy this financial trouble b.s. they arent spending because they dont want to waste the money. they are still billionaires (and probably got that way, by, you know, not wasting money) and are more than capable of drumming up capital if/when necessary.
 
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Man. It will be another destroy and rebuild year once again if we bring in Cowher. He will probably move to a 3-4 scheme which would be the end of pretty much every one on D. Only players that would be safe are Tenard, and Aquib and possibly Quincy since he could possibly be a terror at a 3-4 OLB. More players would probably stay but those are the ones that are probably guaranteed to stay.

That said I liked where the defense was headed under Raheems play calling but I knwo if Cowher comes there is no way he stay as a D coordinator.
 
So let me get this straight:

The Glazers don't care about the Bucs any more and Man Utd has taken all of their money and interest, yet they're willing to pay $10m or whatever stupid money Cowher is going to ask for to be their coach?

Something doesn't add up here...

Well there is now talk that they may be able to re-finance their massive Man U debt. They have not been spending much on the Bucs in terms of player acquisition since 2004. However, they do continue to buy-up unsold seats at RJS this year meaning they have a sincere interest to maintain a national brand image of the Bucs as a successful organization.

As stated before, ticket-sales drive this train. Even if they pay $10MM to Cowher per season it would still save them the money they have spent buying up 15-20k unsold seats each week. Plus, the Rooney family was never known as big-spenders and Cowher found success with good drafts and minimal spending. If anything, that is one thing the Steelers always seemed able to do: replace a departing free agent with a younger player who was drafted into the system.

Frankly, I would be ecstatic if Cowher came to Tampa. Cowher provides a track record of winning and a solid plan. Raheem has changed his plan multiple times, fired coordinators, etc. He just doesn't seem to know what he wants to do or how he wants to do it.
 
Its a learning experience for a 1st year Coach. Things seem to be on the up, late in the season, but on the up none the less. If Cowher comes it will be more of the same as far as winning goes. Its gonna get worse, again, before it gets better. It may even take longer if he brings his 3-4 scheme.
 
Cowher would be a mammoth hire for the Bucs..

That said I hope Paul Allen swoops in and hires both Colbert and Cowher first. Highly doubtful but at this point I hate Mora so bad I am hoping for the best.
 
Florio is reporting via an Amarillo, Texas reporter that the Glazers have informed Raheem and Dominik that they will be back in 2010. I'll reserve comment till I have had a night to sleep on the news and to see if I can get any sort of updates from anyone I know.
 
This Warren McCarty guy is the only one that is reporting this story about Morris and Dominik. I know Dominik was in El Paso to take a look at Gerald McCoy. Maybe Dominik slipped him the story...IDK.

Anyway, I have not heard from anyone else this story. The understanding I have is that today still matters. The game is a "sell-out" b/c the Glazers bought up the tickets and tried to give them away. So the actual attendance for today will matter and how the game plays out will also matter. Finally, the feedback from the fans about next season and people keeping their season-tickets will matter.

I will be watching today with great interest. I have the radio pregame on right now. It is taking everything I can to not vomit though b/c 620 becomes the Buccaneer Radio Network on Sunday morning and it is nothing but spin/sunshine lol - it's awful. Any Buc fans looking for comedic relief just tune in to the live streaming at 620wdae.com and click on the "listen live" link. Scott Ledger is practically shoving the kool-aid down the listeners throats.
 
Reports are that the Glazers are instructing ushers to invite people in the 300 level down to the 100 and 200 level of the stadium so that it "looks full" on tv. Justin Pawlowski from 620 is at the game and said that just minutes before kickoff the stadium was nearly empty.

I still believe this will play into the Glazers decision to keep or fire Raheem. This Warren McCarty guy is someone I have never heard of and is reporting out of Amarillo, Texas. Short of him speaking directly with Mark Dominik about his job security, I don't know how he has any info related to the Buccaneers. If you really want Raheem gone though - pray for a HUGE second half by the Falcons and for the Bucs to continue this pitiful offensive performance.
 
I completely agree with Joe Henderson of the Tampa Tribune in his post-game blog. The more silent the Glazers are on the subject, the more likely it is that they are looking to replace Raheem - which is what I said a few days ago. Makes me think that this McCarty guy is just throwing some stuff out there in the hopes he can say he scooped the MSM.

Anyway, here is Henderson's blog post:

Joe Henderson said:
A bad thing for the Glazers would be a national leak that they’ve decided to fire Raheem and hire Cowher, and then have it draw out over days or even weeks without a resolution. The worst thing would be to have him then go somewhere else.

They don’t really have the luxury of time.

We know the arguments for bringing an experienced pro like Cowher on board, but the best one may simply be that the Bucs can’t afford another season like this one. If the Glazers are certain that they’ve seen enough in Raheem to guarantee that much brighter days are around the corner, they should stand up and say so.

Until then, their silence speaks loudly.
 
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