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NCAA discussing possibility of losing teams in bowls

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The NCAA has begun discussions about the possibility of having teams with losing records play in bowl games this season -- a possibility that some say isn’t good for college football.

In April, the NCAA approved an all-time high of 35 bowl games for the 2010 postseason, up from 34 last year. At the time, the NCAA said it would later address what would happen if there weren’t enough teams with the minimum six wins necessary to fill those 70 spots.

No contingency plan has materialized yet as NCAA officials hoped it wouldn’t be necessary. But now some factors have arisen that may make it more likely that teams with losing records might be needed to fill all the bowl games.

“It’s early, but sure there’s concern, absolutely,” said Bruce Binkowski, executive director of San Diego’s two bowl games.

The decision will be made by the NCAA’s football postseason licensing subcommittee, chaired by Nick Carparelli, associate commissioner of the Big East Conference. Carparelli said Tuesday discussions are “ongoing” and no timetable has been set to form a contingency plan if fewer than 70 teams have 6-6 records or better. In the meantime, at least two factors likely will drag down the number of bowl-eligible teams.

--There are fewer chances for teams from the Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) to get “easy” wins. FBS teams each year schedule teams from the slower, smaller Football Championship Subdivision in order to increase their chances of getting the minimum six victories for a bowl berth. Last year, FBS teams were 89-5 in such games. By season’s end, there were 71 bowl-eligible teams for 68 bowl berths.

This year, FBS teams are 63-6 against the FCS, according to the NCAA, with 21 more such games left on the schedule. That means, at most, FBS teams will have 84 “easy” wins, down from 89 last year, when there were just enough teams eligible to fill the 34 bowls.

--USC has been to a bowl game for nine straight seasons but won’t play in one this year. In June, the NCAA penalized USC with a two-year bowl ban after finding former running back Reggie Bush had accepted improper cash and benefits in 2004 and 2005. USC is now 3-0. The more the Trojans win, the more wins they take away from other teams trying to reach six victories.

Meanwhile, Carparelli’s subcommittee is rooting for parity. It’s mathematically possible that all 120 teams in the FBS could finish 6-6.

“I think there’s more parity this year,” Carparelli said. “That would be working in our favor. If everybody was 6-6, we’d have (that many) bowl eligible teams, which obviously is an unlikely extreme. But the more parity there is, the more bowl-eligible teams you might have.”

Only eight of 120 FBS teams have started 0-3 and made their bowl chances already appear dim. But hope might not be lost for them if they only need 5-7 records this time.

“I don’t necessarily think it’s a good thing if you have a losing record and you’re going to a bowl,” said San Diego State Athletic Director Jim Sterk, who previously served on the NCAA bowl subcommittee. “I don’t think that’s good for college football.”

The 35 bowls were told their games would be filled regardless of whether there were enough eligible teams. The Navy Midshipmen, if they gets six wins, will play a team from the Mountain West Conference this year in the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl. If Navy (2-1) fails to get six wins, the Poinsettia would have to find an eligible at-large team -- unless there aren’t enough 6-6 teams and Navy is somehow ruled eligible at 5-7.

If there weren’t enough eligible teams, Binkowski’s guess is that strength of schedule or proximity would factor into which 5-7 teams could be selected.

Another possibility is allowing teams with two wins against FCS teams to count both toward bowl eligibility. Currently, only one such victory counts per year. But only a handful of teams have scheduled two FCS games this year, including San Jose State (1-2) and Ball State (1-2).

“If it looks like it is going to be a problem, I could see some calls being made and decisions coming down,” Binkowski said.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/21/ncaa-discussing-possibility-losing-teams-bowls/

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Okay so a playoff would water down the regular season and make it "meaningless" (a weak ass, bull shit excuse) .. but allowing 5 win teams into bowl games will preserve the tradition of the season?

The NCAA.. once again proving how fucking retarded it is.
 
Dear God. Its becoming like children's sports where no one is a winner anymore. I mean why not just let everyone play a bowl game if 5 win teams are making it. That would mean last year's Michigan team would've been in a bowl. That team has no business being near anything with the word bowl in it, much less a bowl game.
 
Dear God. Its becoming like children's sports where no one is a winner anymore. I mean why not just let everyone play a bowl game if 5 win teams are making it. That would mean last year's Michigan team would've been in a bowl. That team has no business being near anything with the word bowl in it, much less a bowl game.
But a 4 or 8 team playoff would RUIN college football.
 
This article fails to mention that FCS wins can only be counted towards bowl eligibility once every two years. Unless the rule has been changed. But yeah, dumb fucking deal to approve so many bowls.

I might go to the Pinstripe Bowl in Yankee Stadium this year, god knows what shithouse match up that's gonna be. A 5-7 Buffalo vs. a 6-6 UConn or some shit.
 
But a 4 or 8 team playoff would RUIN college football.

But the regular season is a playoff!!

LOL.

This isnt 1964, times change, all of these bowl games fucking suck. Can't take college football seriously until they institute some type of playoff, otherwise it's just something to bet on on Saturday as we wait for the NFL.

College football is a vanity exhibition for the 20 something schools that control everything. Sticking a 5-7 Indiana team in some shitbag bowl just lines more cartel pockets, can't say I really care or find myself surprised.
 
This article fails to mention that FCS wins can only be counted towards bowl eligibility once every two years. Unless the rule has been changed. But yeah, dumb fucking deal to approve so many bowls.
im not 100% sure, but im pretty sure you can count one win over an FCS team per season, but if you play and beat two FCS teams in one season, only one win counts (a la USF a few years ago)...
 
im not 100% sure, but im pretty sure you can count one win over an FCS team per season, but if you play and beat two FCS teams in one season, only one win counts (a la USF a few years ago)...

Maybe it's 2 per 3 years? I am not entirely sure on the rule either but I know you can't always count them.
 
Bunch of people in here talking like they have a legitimate argument. Just because people don't want a 8 or 16 team playoff doesn't mean they want 35 bowl games with losing teams. A 16 team playoff would just replace one bad extreme with another.
 
Bunch of people in here talking like they have a legitimate argument. Just because people don't want a 8 or 16 team playoff doesn't mean they want 35 bowl games with losing teams. A 16 team playoff would just replace one bad extreme with another.

You're lost.

Anything is better than 35 shitty bowls that no one cares about, and one game that matters.
 
Bunch of people in here talking like they have a legitimate argument. Just because people don't want a 8 or 16 team playoff doesn't mean they want 35 bowl games with losing teams. A 16 team playoff would just replace one bad extreme with another.

Only if Ohio State makes it to the championship game...
 
Jeremy you're absolutely right. The 35 bowl system in which 2 teams made it to a bowl game last season, were undefeated, and STILL had no shot at a National Championship is the perfect system and makes so much more sense than a playoff to determine the best of the best.

In fact college footballs postseason makes the most sense as you can see given no other sport follows their "logic"
 
16 team playoff would be terrible. 4 team playoff would be good, especially if all conferences were forced to play round robin schedules or have a championship game.

I don't understand what any of that has to do with losing teams in bowls though, since they could have a playoff system and also still send losing teams to bowl games.

Anyway all I really want to say is bowl games featuring losing teams should be sponsored by companies that went out of business.
 
Anyway all I really want to say is bowl games featuring losing teams should be sponsored by companies that went out of business.

Brent Musburger: You are looking live at US Cellular Field, where the Duke Blue Devils will face off against the Vanderbilt Commodores in the MaddenMania Bowl...
 
It would be easy to say that they should just stick to the BCS Bowl Games and that's it but that leaves out a LOT of teams all clamoring for a shot at the NC.

You're seeing a lot of it now with colleges switching conferences or going independent because it's easier to get recognized if you aren't in the WAC or Sun Belt.

That and more opportunities to get a slice of the pie... which is being distributed more and more to shitty teams it seems.
 
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