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Oh, for Christ's sake, not this

Rayman

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http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=75D8DE24-99B1-D37F-5C78D1499384CDB4

On Hold Again
Cowboys Looking To Romo Again To Cure Holding Issues
Nick Eatman - Email
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
December 9, 2009 5:48 PM


IRVING, Texas - When the Cowboys lost the 2006 Wild Card game in Seattle, mainly because of a botched field goal snap in the final minutes, it appeared Tony Romo's days as the holder were over.

In fact, for about three seasons they were.

But with kicker Nick Folk in a funk, missing five out of his last seven field goals in the last four games, the Cowboys have been toying with the entire operation of the kicks. The first step in the changing process appears to be at holder, where punter Mat McBriar is expected to be replaced by Romo this Sunday against the Chargers.

Although head coach Wade Phillips joked that it would be a "game-time decision" to have Romo take over the duties, he all but pegged the quarterback for his new role.

"We let him hold today quite a bit to see how he did," Phillips said. "And (special teams coach Joe DeCamillis) was very impressed. We felt like he would be. Tony is a pretty good holder."

Of course, who could forget Romo's last attempt to hold, when he dropped a potential game-winning field goal against the Seahawks, Seattle holding on for a 21-20 win at Seahawk Stadium? Romo had been the regular holder since the 2004 season and although he was named the starting quarterback six games into the 2006 regular season, then-head coach Bill Parcells opted not to make the mid-season change.

But Parcells did make a holder move in the middle of a season before. In fact, this isn't the first time Romo has replaced McBriar as the holder. In the 2004 regular-season opener, McBriar dropped the first snap of the year, preventing a field-goal opportunity in Minnesota. Parcells had a quick hook and yanked McBriar, replacing him with Romo, who was the backup quarterback behind Vinny Testaverde.

But Romo didn't hold all season because he often traded that No. 2 spot with Drew Henson, before eventually regaining the position at the end of the year.

Romo continued to hold in 2005, when the Cowboys had all sorts of kicking issues. Three different kickers - Billy Cundiff, Jose Cortez and Shaun Suisham - all had a turn that season as Romo was the primary backup to Drew Bledsoe.

In 2006, Romo started the year as the holder for Mike Vanderjagt and Suisham, and then Martin Gramatica, who was the kicker in the playoff loss against Seattle.

"Guys that have the mechanics to do it, it doesn't take them long to get back to form," Phillips said. "It's not the kicker. It's how you handle the ball. It's how you spin the ball. It's where you put the laces. If he wants it up, leaning one way, leaning forward - that's what a holder does. A guy that can do it well, doesn't have a problem with that."

The Cowboys are hoping this change will help Folk, who has missed a kick in four straight games.

"I think something new at this point may do some good for him," Phillips said of Folk. "And he may have just been in a slump. But I don't know. And the whole operation hasn't been what we wanted. We're trying to change something that maybe will help us. All the kicks are important. We know that. He knows that. Virtually, it's up to the kicker. We have a snapper and holder, and he has to do his job, too. (Folk) knows it's his responsibility to do better also."

Folk has hit 16-of-24 field goal attempts this season. His eight misses already top his seven from the previous two years combined.
Is this whole organization retarded? Why in God's name would it have to come to this, on the week of your biggest game of the year no less?

Somebody shoot me.






Oh yeah, I know you all want to post your little "bobble" pics, so go ahead. Have fun. I can't feel any lower as a fan of this team than I do right now.:facepalm:
 
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I didnt watch all of the Cowboys games, but from the highlights I saw it looked like the blame needed to be placed solely on Folk, not the holder.
 
:rofl:

Most, if not all, of Folk's misses fall squarely on him. All this holder talk is strictly bullshit.

This will not end well.
 
On a serious note they did this to just change things up and make Folk boost his confidence again if he starts making field goals with the homo hold.
 
:rofl:

Most, if not all, of Folk's misses fall squarely on him. All this holder talk is strictly bullshit.

This will not end well.
Actually, there's some merit to it. McBriar says he's been leaning forward and placing the ball down ahead of where Folk is planning to kick it from. Because of this, Folk is hitting the ball late in his swing.

It makes sense because all of Folk's misses have hooked to the left.

Still, it should never come down to having your starting QB step in to basically save the kicker's ass. Romo doesn't need that right now with all the "December" BS going on. All it's gonna do is add fuel to the fire.
 
Radio said something like that, Folks toes stubbed the Turf or something as he went for the kick, i guess cause the ball wasnt where he expected it.

I always thought that Hip injury he had has been the reason hes been struggling of late. Hopefully he'll get back to his 07-08 form soon.
 
Still, it should never come down to having your starting QB step in to basically save the kicker's ass. Romo doesn't need that right now with all the "December" BS going on. All it's gonna do is add fuel to the fire.

There has to be someone out there that is a Free Agent that can hold kicks. Romo would be the last person I would want doing that!

Also glad to see you come around RayMan, :thumbsup:
 
If it fixes the kicking problems im fine with it.

Backup QBs should always be versed in holding duties. Always felt like having a QB as a holder instead of the punter gives you the added dimension of potential fake.

Not sure how many starters are holders...another reason we should picked up Vick. Itda been nice to see if he could literally hold while running.
 
Okay, never seen that image and I have to admit I laughed at my quarterback.

Timing plays a huge role in making a field goal.

More room for error up close, less room for error the furthur back you go. Mat McBriar owned up to reaching for the ball instead of allowing the ball to come to him. This was causing him to place the ball a few inches in front of where the kicker's foot is supposed to make contact.

As far as Romo doing the holding ... hmmm, interested to see how this plays out this time. It better not result in an injury.
That's not my concern at all. I can't recall a holder ever getting hurt.

I'm more worried about his psyche. You know the Seattle incident is going through his mind all week. Can you imagine the fallout if he were to drop another one?

Hopefully it doesn't affect him because right now, he's going through the best stretch of his career as far as efficiency.
 
For the life of me I can't remember what happened the last game Romo held the ball on a field goal attempt. I'm sure it was some gimme chip shot from like.. extra point range and nothing went wrong though.
 
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