OSU/BCS Question

[manchild24]

Now that all this shit is out, will the BCS/NCAA take away wins and shit from OSU, like last seasons win in the BCS. They took away USC, Im just asking.

 

[FirstTimer]

Now that all this shit is out, will the BCS/NCAA take away wins and shit from OSU, like last seasons win in the BCS. They took away USC, Im just asking.

The BCS took away the championship. I guess the BCS could "take away" the Sugar Bowl win and vacate it but does it really matter that much?

The real punishment would be losses of scholarships, post season ban, etc handed down by the NCAA

 

[manchild24]

The BCS took away the championship. I guess the BCS could "take away" the Sugar Bowl win and vacate it but does it really matter that much?

The real punishment would be losses of scholarships, post season ban, etc handed down by the NCAA

to me this is the problem with college sports. Im not even going to get into the paying the athletes.

Pryor fucks up - he signs with a new team in the CFL or something.
Tressel resigns and will sign with a new team in two seasons.

they walk away with a little egg on their face and Ohio State suffers, the school in losses of scholarships, bans, and the poor current players there now that didnt do anything have to pay for Pryor's greedy ass.

 

[FirstTimer]

to me this is the problem with college sports. Im not even going to get into the paying the athletes.

Pryor fucks up - he signs with a new team in the CFL or something.
Tressel resigns and will sign with a new team in two seasons.

they walk away with a little egg on their face and Ohio State suffers, the school in losses of scholarships, bans, and the poor current players there now that didnt do anything have to pay for Pryor's greedy ass.

More than just Pryor is guilty in this case.

Also, the school and Tressel in this case not only should have had better control but knew about the violations. You typically don't see the NCAA come down hard unless they were lied to, mislead, or there was an atmosphere of non-compliance with investigations.

Yeah it sucks for the players left behind but if they knew about it they should have stepped up to a certain extent and put an end to it.

 

[manchild24]

More than just Pryor is guilty in this case.

Also, the school should and Tressel int his case not only should have had better control but knew about the violations. You typically don't see the NCAA come down hard unless they were lied to, mislead, or there was an atmosphere of non-compliance with investigations.

Yeah it sucks for the players left behind but if they knew about it they should have stepped up to a certain extent and put an end to it.

I know its more then just Pryor, but he's the "big name" here making the headlines.

I agree, Tressel punked out

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Colin Cowherd says if you want to curtail some of this, they should make paying collegiate athletes a felony. I say go one step further. Make taking money a felony, too.

And "taking away" wins is worthless, and only meaningful in media guides. Everyone saw the games and knows who won. Its time for the death sentence to return. Insteand of taking away past seasons, take away future seasons. Get control of your program, eliminate your dirty boosters, recruit good kids, or we will shut you down for a full season(s). SMU style.

Taking away wins, scholarships, even bowl games, at the end of the day its all wrist slapping and worth the risk of being dirty. None of the bowls matter anyway except for national title game, so what exactly is USC missing out on? They aren't a title contender right now anyway.

 

[FirstTimer]

Colin Cowherd says if you want to curtail some of this, they should make paying collegiate athletes a felony. I say go one step further. Make taking money a felony, too.

And "taking away" wins is worthless, and only meaningful in media guides. Everyone saw the games and knows who won. Its time for the death sentence to return. Insteand of taking away past seasons, take away future seasons. Get control of your program, eliminate your dirty boosters, recruit good kids, or we will shut you down for a full season(s). SMU style.

Taking away wins, scholarships, even bowl games, at the end of the day its all wrist slapping and worth the risk of being dirty. None of the bowl matter anyway except for national title game, so what exactly is USC missing out on? They aren't a title contender right now anyway.

They are missing out on some revenue that the athletic department could use. But I agree. If the NCAA truly wants to do something about this they need to institute harsher penalties for both the schools and the players/boosters/etc

 

[ralaw]

The NCAA has to punish the school because as FT said they’re ultimately responsible for who they recruit and who they allow around their players. Schools have compliance departments/officers that are supposed to stay on top of what the athletes are doing. The “we didn’t know” excuse simply isn’t valid, because for the most part coaches and school officials know. If you recruit some kid from an economically challenge background, yet you see him driving around campus in some sports car you have to ask questions. It’s bad for the current kids, but outside of banning coaches and eliminating eligibility of those involved there really isn’t much else that can be done. Boosters have a lot of power, influence and financial resources that they provide to the school, so schools generally don't like to go after them. The responsibility has to be on the schools’ governing body to have better regulation. They make a lot of money, have influence and have the resources to make this happen.

Given the nature of recruiting (making promises, trying to sway people, etc) the business of recruiting is a pretty lucrative, sleazy and shady. However, recruiting is the backbone of college sports, so you have to take the good with the bad. This is simply an issue that will always be around.

 

[BrntO4Life]

Get control of your program, eliminate your dirty boosters, recruit good kids, or we will shut you down for a full season(s). SMU style.

Unfortunately, that will never happen again. Especially with a cash-cow like OSU. It's far too damaging to the NCAA's bottom line.