Philly faces a mess of a summer thanks to the cap

[leaffan]

Interesting article coming out of philly a couple days ago talking about the cap troubles the team has and what next season looks like.

http://www.csnphilly.com/05/12/11/F...h/news_flyers.html?blockID=521505&feedID=2231

Looking at capgeek they have 18 players signed for next season but have a cap space of just .430k with UFA/RFA's being Zherdev, Carcillo, Nodl, Leino (who already turned down a 3mil a year deal back in feb apparantly), powe, odonnell, boynton and boucher.

This is like chicago last year and most people think Carter is going to be a goner.

 

[wr50l]

Interesting article coming out of philly a couple days ago talking about the cap troubles the team has and what next season looks like.

http://www.csnphilly.com/05/12/11/F...h/news_flyers.html?blockID=521505&feedID=2231

Looking at capgeek they have 18 players signed for next season but have a cap space of just .430k with UFA/RFA's being Zherdev, Carcillo, Nodl, Leino (who already turned down a 3mil a year deal back in feb apparantly), powe, odonnell, boynton and boucher.

This is like chicago last year and most people think Carter is going to be a goner.

Carter signed one of those monster deals though did he not? ROFL at trading away an 11 year contract that will be difficult.

Personally I hope the club falls apart. Wankers.

 

[leaffan]

Carter signed one of those monster deals though did he not? ROFL at trading away an 11 year contract that will be difficult.

Personally I hope the club falls apart. Wankers.

Won't be terribly difficult to teams that could affoard and use his service.

I'm sure teams like the Predators, Blue Jackets, Panthers ect would gladly trade away a few picks to get him.

 

[wr50l]

Won't be terribly difficult to teams that could affoard and use his service.

I'm sure teams like the Predators, Blue Jackets, Panthers ect would gladly trade away a few picks to get him.

It's probably a complete no-trade clause as well which makes things difficult if it so. ROFL. Enjoy the bottom of the Atlantic ya dirty cunts.

 

[leaffan]

It's probably a complete no-trade clause as well which makes things difficult if it so. ROFL. Enjoy the bottom of the Atlantic ya dirty cunts.

Carter doesn't have any NTC I don't think.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Won't be terribly difficult to teams that could affoard and use his service.

I'm sure teams like the Predators, Blue Jackets, Panthers ect would gladly trade away a few picks to get him.

Preds have needed that offensive talent since Radulov left for the KHL. He would be a huge acquisition for them.

Besides all the high salaries, this year proved that the Flyers need help in net. They will have to trade away some pieces, and hope to acquire at least an above average goaltender at some point this off-season, whether it is via trade or free agency.

I wouldn't want to be in Paul Holmgren's shoes right about now.

 

[Boucher]

Im not going anywhere :smug:

 

[Obst]

The cap is supposed to go up 3 million dollars this offseason. If that happens they could trade somelike Hartnell and have money to get a decent goalie and resign Leino, we'll see what happens. But the Flyers will be able to keep most of it's core with Giroux, Briere, JVR, Richards, Carter, Pronger, Timonen, Bob.

 

[strahanfan92]

I see the Flyers trading Richards.

 

[Obst]

That won't happen.

 

[wingsfan77]

PLEASE trade Carter, I can't stand the way he plays the game. I'd like to see Zherdev back but with the way Laviolette used him I doubt he'll be back.

 

[Obst]

I'm just hoping they can bring Gagne back

 

[Berowsk]

I see the Flyers trading Richards.

Carter's gone way before Richards.

This is nothing like the Hawks. The Hawks had to get rid of pretty much every player instrumental in their success, besides the stars. We still get to keep guys like Hartnell, JVR, etc who aren't stars (yet, in JVR's case).

All we're losing are some key role players, besides Leino who I'd be really upset to see leave. I'd rather have Leino than Hartnell or Carter, as would any other Flyers fan.

I don't care whether or not Zherdev comes back. I don't think I'll ever accept a Russian as a true Flyer who isn't named Bob.

Bouch can walk. Even though I'd rather see Leights walk, have a nice life.

 

[dave]

When you have five defencemen making more than $3.2M cap hit and a bottom 6 forward making $4.2M, you know you have financial issues.
And while I like Kimmo Timmonen, no chance he's worth a $6.33M cap hit.
Briere's deal is obviously problematic, but Richards' and Carter's deals are palatable.

The Flyers will need to pull off some neat tricks this off-season.

Here's a thought: Offer Montreal Briere for Scott Gomez, then bury Gomez in the minors ... something Philly might be willing to do financially, but obviously Montreal wouldn't.

 

[Berowsk]

When you have five defencemen making more than $3.2M cap hit and a bottom 6 forward making $4.2M, you know you have financial issues.
And while I like Kimmo Timmonen, no chance he's worth a $6.33M cap hit.
Briere's deal is obviously problematic, but Richards' and Carter's deals are palatable.

The Flyers will need to pull off some neat tricks this off-season.

Here's a thought: Offer Montreal Briere for Scott Gomez, then bury Gomez in the minors ... something Philly might be willing to do financially, but obviously Montreal wouldn't.

Are you just looking at ages? Timmonen is one of the locker room leaders. He's worth the cap hit. He's also still a solid D man, especially with Prongers career on the downshoot. I'm not trying to trade Kimmo for a 3rd rounder. LOL. Pleaseeee stay. And Briere? I think he'll end his career a Flyer. Our city likes him wayyyyy too much.

 

[dave]

Are you just looking at ages? Timmonen is one of the locker room leaders. He's worth the cap hit. He's also still a solid D man, especially with Prongers career on the downshoot. I'm not trying to trade Kimmo for a 3rd rounder. LOL. Pleaseeee stay. And Briere? I think he'll end his career a Flyer. Our city likes him wayyyyy too much.

I like Timmonen too, but in today's cap era a $6.33M cap figure for a number two D is pretty damn high.
Briere has four more years at $6.5M cap ... and he's not going to get better as a player.
The Flyers, obviously, badly need to get that real #1 goalie. Their current cap situation makes that tough.
Dwayne Roloson is a UFA in the summer, the Flyers should overpay him on a one-year deal.

 

[Obst]

No way in hell would we trade probably our best goal scorer and all-star in Briere for nothing. We would trade Carter and Hartnell if we absolutely had to move someone. But with the cap going up 3 million the Flyers could roll something like this out next year.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Simon Gagne ($2.500m)
Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m)
Andreas Nodl ($0.900m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Darroll Powe ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)

GOALTENDERS
Ray Emery ($1.250m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,702,488; BONUSES: $1,700,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $497,512

 

[leaffan]

Ray Emery eh...

I see what you did there :shifty:

 

[leaffan]

Oh Gigure is available btw...

 

[Obst]

Apparently the Flyers FO is still high on him, and if healthy could be a good starting goalie. I think he is the best bet for the Flyers instead of overpaying for a goalie and being fucked by the cap.