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Predict The Division Series: AL Central

Lanteri

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I really think the Twins run away with this one. They did nothing but improve this offseason by adding Thome, Hardy, and Hudson to a lineup that was really full of holes, but still managed to get to the playoffs. Their pitching staff is very underrated as well. They aren't flashy, and they won't be striking out a lot of guys, but what the pitching staff doesn't do is get itself into unnecessary trouble with walks. Baker, Slowey, Pavano, and Blackburn all are very good control pitchers. Nathan, obviously, is arguably the best in the business as far as closers go, second maybe only to Rivera (though you can argue that Nathan has been more dominant in recent years). The bullpen is strong as well.

As for the lineup, Span is pretty much your prototypical leadoff hitter. Then obviously you got the MVPs in Mauer and Morneau, and then Cuddyer and Kubel are no slouches either. The talking point has been whether or not Thome will be the regular DH. The Twins have claimed the starting LF job belongs to Delmon Young, and it appears that they're going to keep giving him chances, so Kubel is likely to DH most of the time, at least initially. However, it will be tough to keep Thome out of the lineup, as he's still a very productive power hitter.

Meanwhile, Chicago has what appears to be maybe the best starting rotation in baseball in terms of depth. Peavy, Buehrle (sp?), Danks, Floyd, and Garcia, with Daniel Hudson waiting in the wings. They do, however, have some question marks in the bullpen. Jenks hasn't been as dominant as he used to be. Putz struggled last season, as did Linebrink and Tony Pena. Thornton's one of the better setup men in the business, but otherwise the 'pen is pretty shaky at best.

The downfall for the White Sox is their putrid offense. I'm not really sure where it's going to come from, and I can't really say I have much of an idea what their batting order is going to look like. But I mean looking at the names and numbers here: Pierre, Rios, Quentin, Teahen, Ramirez, Beckham, Konerko, Pierzynski, Jones, Kotsay, etc. There's nothing to see here as far as offense goes. Beckham's pretty good, and if Quentin bounces back he can be solid, but as with the pen, there's way too many question marks.

So yeah, I think the Sox offense will sadly betray what is sure to be a dynamite rotation.
 
I really think the Twins run away with this one. They did nothing but improve this offseason by adding Thome, Hardy, and Hudson to a lineup that was really full of holes, but still managed to get to the playoffs. Their pitching staff is very underrated as well. They aren't flashy, and they won't be striking out a lot of guys, but what the pitching staff doesn't do is get itself into unnecessary trouble with walks. Baker, Slowey, Pavano, and Blackburn all are very good control pitchers. Nathan, obviously, is arguably the best in the business as far as closers go, second maybe only to Rivera (though you can argue that Nathan has been more dominant in recent years). The bullpen is strong as well.

As for the lineup, Span is pretty much your prototypical leadoff hitter. Then obviously you got the MVPs in Mauer and Morneau, and then Cuddyer and Kubel are no slouches either. The talking point has been whether or not Thome will be the regular DH. The Twins have claimed the starting LF job belongs to Delmon Young, and it appears that they're going to keep giving him chances, so Kubel is likely to DH most of the time, at least initially. However, it will be tough to keep Thome out of the lineup, as he's still a very productive power hitter.

Meanwhile, Chicago has what appears to be maybe the best starting rotation in baseball in terms of depth. Peavy, Buehrle (sp?), Danks, Floyd, and Garcia, with Daniel Hudson waiting in the wings. They do, however, have some question marks in the bullpen. Jenks hasn't been as dominant as he used to be. Putz struggled last season, as did Linebrink and Tony Pena. Thornton's one of the better setup men in the business, but otherwise the 'pen is pretty shaky at best.

The downfall for the White Sox is their putrid offense. I'm not really sure where it's going to come from, and I can't really say I have much of an idea what their batting order is going to look like. But I mean looking at the names and numbers here: Pierre, Rios, Quentin, Teahen, Ramirez, Beckham, Konerko, Pierzynski, Jones, Kotsay, etc. There's nothing to see here as far as offense goes. Beckham's pretty good, and if Quentin bounces back he can be solid, but as with the pen, there's way too many question marks.

So yeah, I think the Sox offense will sadly betray what is sure to be a dynamite rotation.
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The Twins will win the division.
 
Love hearing the Twins be everyone favorites. us twins fans have been waitin along time for this

I had them as favorites last year before the season and got lol'd at. That was fun.

Of course, the Twins are my second favorite team behind the Sox, since I worked in the minor league organization for 3 years, so I was a little biased maybe.
 
Twins.


Although the White Sox can win it if their pitching stays healthy. Their lineup isnt bad, but at times last year we seen them flutter.
 
Well here's the tradeoff.

Lineup is looking like:

1B: Konerko
2B: Beckham
3B: Mark Teahan
SS: Alexei Ramirez
LF: Juan Pierre
CF: Alex Rios
RF: Carlos Quentin
DH: Andruw Jones/Mark Kotsay

Their offense is going to be tough as Lefty has said, I really think that if Quentin and Rios can have above-average seasons will be key. Again, their rotation is stellar, maybe the best in the AL and bullpens are just so hit or miss so who knows.

I agree their offense may struggle, but we'll see what happens if Carlos and Rios can rebound.
 
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Question to Twins fans (or anyone)...why are the Twins so insistent on playing Delmon Young? The guy can't really do anything well. He is like a 0-tool player.
 
Delmon Young is awful. Just terrible. I often wonder the same thing too. He brings absolutely zero to the table besides an awesome year in AAA in 2006.
 
Question to Twins fans (or anyone)...why are the Twins so insistent on playing Delmon Young? The guy can't really do anything well. He is like a 0-tool player.

I'm sure it won't last. I guess they're insistent on giving him the playing time considering they had to give up Garza and Bartlett, and they're both really successful in Tampa. That and he posted a pretty decent second half last year (.300/.322/.502), so I guess they want to give him a chance to replicate it.

I'm sure once he stinks up the joint you'll see Kubel in LF and Thome at DH, and a scary ass lineup.
 
Ugh. The White Sox not signing Thome and instead going with an Andruw Jones/Mark Kotsay/Omar Vizquel DH rotation.

.......
 
:homieslol:

I love Zumaya too...but come on.

Perry isn't ready...he still struggles more than he is successful. Valverde will be good, Seay will be good...and then what? Sure, if we had a starting rotation who could all go into the 7th every game, or nearly every game, those two/three would be fine...but not when we're going to have 4 and 5-starters (and sometimes 2nd and 3rd starter) getting knocked out more often than not before the 6th inning.

Even if the Tigers bullpen performs to his lofty (IMO, whacko) expectations, they aren't better than the Twins bullpen. Nathan, Crain, a healthy Neshek, Rauch, Guerreir, Mijares, et al is superior to anything the Tigers will be putting out there this season.
 
I don't think the Tigers will win the division, 3rd place seems most likely for us. Inge still can't hit and is now moving on two surgically repaired knees. Magglio is now a contact hitter, which is ok since its better than him just completely failing like first half of last year. Adam Everett is what he is, a placeholder. Scott Sizemore who knows, we might end up starting Ramon Santiago at second. Cabrera will obviously be a stud. In centerfield we've got three candidates, Clete Thomas, Ryan Raburn, and Austin Jackson. Jackson is least likely to play because he's never played in the majors. Raburn was solid at times last year and right now is predicted to platoon with Thomas.

Pitching wise, its hit or miss. Verlander is really the only sure thing. Porcello could have a sophomore slump, Scherzer is questionable. They say Bondo will be 4th in the rotation but the 4th and 5th spots, at least to me, are completely up in the air.
 
I look at the division much differently.

The Twins have the best offense in the Division. The Tigers have the best bullpen. The White Sox have the best starting pitching..

But Chicago does not have the bullpen or the offense to keep up, in my opinion.

Last year, its almost hard to say that the Twins were better than the Tigers. The Twins won the division with their offense (which they improved this year) and The Tigers kept a 5 month lead in the Central with their pitching. The Twins inconsistent pitching staff is the reason it took them until October 5th to lead the Central.

You start out with a point stating that the Twins won the division with their offense then back it up saying they improve it. Somehow by the end of that paragraph you attempted to eek out a second point saying the division is still a toss up because of the Tigers pitching, which didn't improve. Why would the Tigers still be a toss up when the Twins were evidently better than them by the end of the year and went about improving their offense?



Thats why I still see it as a toss up between Detroit and Minnesota.

Losing Granderson hurts your heart, not your head. They upgraded his spot in the lineup.

Damon: .282, 24 HR, an OPS of .854, and a OBP of .365.

Granderson: .249, 30 HR, an OPS of .780, and an OBP of .327

Curtis struck out 141 times and hit .181 vs lefties with a total of 3 Homeruns. He was a glorified plantoon player offensively. His OPS dropped significantly every year since '07, when it was .945. They upgraded Grandersons spot in the lineup and wont lose much defensively in CF with Jackson. No matter what the Tigers do, its not because Granderson left.

The Tigers have a good rotation, great bullpen, and a capable offense. The Twins can hit but their pitching (their main issue) wasnt touched in the offseason.

good rotation? Verlander is a stud, that much is proven but after that i wouldn't be satisfied. Porcello is coming off a solid rookie season and I do like him, but as mentioned earlier there's always the possibility of a sophomore slump. Scherzer had never gone over 100 innings before last season, can he hold up through this year? 4th and 5th is shaky as well. I believe your great bullpen comment has already been disproven in the thread.

The Tigers balanced team and the Twins offense is going to result in a tight race til the final game-again. I dont know who'll win, but nobody will until October if you ask me.

And everybody who thinks the Tigers are just a 3rd place finish, all the big pieces they lost (Lyon, Rodney, Granderson, Polanco) they replaced all of them with better players (excluding Polanco). Valverde is a top 4 closer and Damon is 2x the hitter Granderson was. And its not like their rookies will be black holes, either.

Exactly. Saying that they will have a good or above average offense if player x and y rebound doesnt make them a good offense team until player x and y rebounds. They have potential to be as good as last year, but even if Quentin does what he did when they went to the playoffs, I dont see them has a great offensive team. Their bullpen is horrible, but I already said they have the best rotation in the division if Peavy stays healthy.

way to just completely contradict yourself there, champ.
 
The homer in me picked Detroit in the poll, but realistically I'm leaning more towards the Twins as everyone else is.
 
Like most people, went with the Twins. I don't think the losses of Lyon and Rodney will be too much, but Granderson and Polanco hurt a lot. Especially in the field, our defensive out there is awful, sans Clete Thomas. The pitching will keep us in longer than we probably should be, and hopefully next year we can unload some more payroll and pick up a few hitters.
 
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