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I think I'll be a little less kind in evaluating the Sox..

C - Salty and Ross. Actually, not a particularly bad tandem. Salty can, y'know, sort of hit right handed pitching. I suppose he only appears passable vs. RHP because he's simply that awful against LHP. (.230/.299/.480) vs. (.170/.211./.283). Decent pop, but an astronomical K rate and inability to get on base with any kind of frequency pretty much makes me sour on him. Nothing to write home about defensively either. Ross was certainly a valuable pickup and probably the only offseason move the Sox made that I like. I would expect pretty much a full out platoon with Ross starting against lefties. Wouldn't surprise me if he started 50-60 games, and frankly it would be a good thing for the Sox if he did.

1B - Mike Napoli. Man oh man did I really hate this signing. Guy with no hips trying to be a full time first baseman. Riiiighttttt. I guess that's what you get stuck with when you inexplicably push the panic button and ship off Adrian Gonzalez, cause you know the Sox are too poor to afford Crawford and Beckett. Anyway, glad they managed to get him on a 1-year deal. I have extremely low expectations for him, and I would bet the farm on him never ever coming anywhere close to that ridiculous 2011 season he put up again. In fact, I wouldn't expect him to put up anything nearing his '08 or '09 seasons either. I'm sure the line will look a lot like last year or 2010. Sure, Fenway seems like a good fit for him, but when he only plays 110 games with a good majority of that likely battling hip problems, it's not going to translate into much.

2B - Dustin Pedroia for my money still a top 5 2nd baseman in the game. I definitely think his injury problems have been overstated. Pretty much the only player on the Sox that really gave any kind of a shit last year and as such still garners my respect. I have to expect the standard somewhere around .800-.850 OPS with above average defense from Pedey once again.

SS Stephen Drew - I liked this signing. So I kind of lied earlier when I said Ross was the only one I liked. Low risk/high reward for sure. When healthy, he's a bit above average as a hitter, good gap power, decent eye, average to slightly above fielder. Not much to dislike about him, besides his health, much like J.D. Never hurts to take a flyer on a guy who I'm sure wants to play his way into a long term contract with someone. Jose Iglesias will be starting on opening day as Drew is hurt. Iglesias at this point can't hit his weight, which is pretty sad since he's a (very generous) 175 lbs, but he'll provide some slick fielding.

LF - Jackie Bradley Jr. will be starting on opening day, I want to say solely due to the Ortiz injury. It's highly unlikely that he will remain in the bigs regardless of performance should Ortiz return in April. It was a good spring story, but it's hard to bank on a guy having success at the ML level that hasn't played above AA. As Yawk said he did show good plate instincts in the spring and drew his fair share of walks, but I can definitely see him being overmatched at the major league level at this point in his career. Jonny Gomes will be the starting LFer upon Ortiz's return. I didn't like this signing much as they paid him well over what he's worth. As a platoon hitter I love him, but as a full-time starter, no thank you. Mashes lefties. Crap against righties.

CF The injury prone Jacoby Ellsbury of course will man CF. When healthy, he can be one of the, if not the best all-around center fielder in baseball as demonstrated in his remarkable 2011 season. The problem is he has only managed 3 full seasons out of 5. Not the best injury history. The Sox absolutely need a healthy Ellsbury to have any hope of a productive offense.

RF Another signing that made absolutely no sense to me and that I hate, hate, hate, Shane Victorino. Victorino hasn't hit right handed pitching effectively in years, yet is penciled in as the #2 hitter in the lineup at this point. There's surefire success right there. He'll bring speed and above average defense in right, but is likely to be a fairly useless bat against RHP. He does, however, hit lefties quite well and he along with Gomes will be the reason this team should mash left handed pitching.

Bench - Nothing remarkable here. Ciriaco is the prototypical lanky slap hitting utility infielder that swings at pretty much everything and is a junky fielder at whatever position the Sox want to use him for on the INF. Nava is just okay and only against RHP. Very good plate discipline, awful fielder, no pop whatsoever. And well, Carp is just..yeah.

Starting Pitching - Wide range of possibilities here. This staff could be quite good, or quite awful. Since I'm a pessimist I lean toward the awful side. Jon Lester needs a big bounce back season if the rotation has any chance of success. When he's right he's one of the best left handed pitchers in the game, and a bonafide ace. When he's like last year, it's trouble for the Sox. Clay Buchholz has struggled off and on his whole career with his health. For the most part he's a very good #2 option, but he's very inconsistent and is prone to the "big inning". Ryan Desmpter is yet another signing that I hate tremendously. He pitched quite poorly for Texas in his brief AL stint, and I see no reason for that to change. Felix Doubront is yet another maddeningly inconsistent from inning-to-inning performer. He rarely gets deep into games due to control issues and concentration issues. Has the stuff to be a quality #3 or #4 pitcher, but the mental makeup is lacking. And of course there's John Lackey. He's just plain bad. There's no hope for him.

Relief Pitching - In my opinion, the strongest part of the team heading into the season. Hanrahan was a good pickup despite his control issues last year, but my favorite pickup of the offseason was Koji Uehara. Guy is just plain filthy and has some of the most ridiculous K:BB numbers I've seen. Junichi Tazawa put up equally impressive numbers pitching for the Sox last year. Miller/B] dominates left handed pitching despite his control issues. Alfredo Aceves is a bonafide psychopath, and Clayton Mortensen is a changeup artist that overachieved very much last season. Andrew Bailey runs out the pen. The former closer struggled to recovery from injury last season, so who knows what you'll get him from him this year.

Best case scenario I can see the Sox somehow sneaking into a wildcard spot. The more likely scenario, of course, would be a last place finish in the superpowered AL east.
 
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C Carlos Ruiz was a lone bright spot in an otherwise brutal year last year. After his suspension, he could be the right handed five hole hitter the Phillies have needed behind Howard. Eric Kratz has gotten good reviews on his defense and pitch calling, and also brings a little pop to the plate. But his production fell off mightily after a hot start at the plate last year.

1B Ryan Howard has been a hot topic of conversation both in Philly and in this forum. Coming off the injury last year, his BA was down and SO's were up, but his power numbers were still there. Watching him in Spring Training, he seems to me to have a better approach at the plate with two strikes and trying to make more contact. I have a feeling he'll have a bounce back season this year.

2B He seems to be 100% going into the season for the first time since 2010. He's running the bases well and driving the ball. He's in the last year of his contract and wants to prove he can still play. If he can stay healthy I think he can put up 15-20 HRs and drive in 75-80.

SS Jimmy will start off the year as the two hole hitter, which may be a better fit for him at this stage of his career. He's always been a dead fastball hitter. Hopefully Revere will improve his OBP (.368 in Spring) so Jimmy will get pitched to with Utley and Howard behind him.

3B Michael Young could potentially give the Phillies something they have severely lacked in this lineup sinced they had a healthy Polanco. That's a professional hitter who's a good situational hitter who will come up with timely hits and will put the bat on the ball. The problem is, he does not upgrade the horrid defense we saw last year at 3B with Wiggington and Frandsen, and he is coming off a sub par year at the plate. He needs to get somewhat close to his gold glove form and show last year was an aberration at the plate for the Phils to be in contention.

Utility Inf Kevin Frandsen batted .338 last year and can play 2nd and 3rd, but poorly. Charlie Manuel said Freddy Galvis could get 400 ABs this year. He's a plus defender at 2nd and SS, and will also play some 3rd (will most likely be a late inning replacement for Young). He'll be counted on to be productive while giving Rollins and Utley days off.

OF This is the weakest part of the roster. Ben Revere will be the new CF and lead off hitter. He's a regular web gem contributor and is one of the most exciting players in the league running the base paths. But his low OBP is a concern. The corner spots are a huge concern. Dominic Brown RF had a huge Spring, but has not broken out in the regular season. Also questionable in the field. A left field platoon of John Mayberry and Lance Nix doesn't scare anyone. Delmon Young is supposed to debut by the end of April. Ender Inciarte is a rule 5 pick who has never played above A ball, so Im not sure why he is on the roster. If the Phillies are in striking distance of a playoff spot at the deadline, I see them making a move to add to their OF.

SP Cole Hamels has emerged as the ace of this staff. Cliff Lee had a good year statistically outside of wins. If he pitches somewhere between what he did last year and 2011 when he had 17 wins, he'll be fine. Roy Halladay is the huge question mark in this staff. His fastball is topping out at 87. He has had control issues, and he can not keep the ball down. If Roy can't make adjustments, it will be tough for the Phillies to overcome.

RP This is one area the Phillies addressed from last year. The 8th inning set up role was brutal. It seemed like they could not hold a lead to get to Papelbon. They signed Mike Adams, who looks strong coming off offseason surgery. Phillipe Aumont could be huge as well. He's a hard throwing RH with lots of movement on his 2 seamer. Problem is, there is too much movement at times when he has control issues. Jeremy Horst has been very effective as a LH specialist.

Final Analysis There are too many question marks on this team for me call them a contender. They have the talent to contend, but they are an older team that has a mix of injury issues and declining skill. Also, the one constant from the Phillies teams in the past has been defense, which has declined significantly. Couple that with going from 4 aces to 2.5, even a healthy Howard and Utley may not be enough to make the playoffs. Especially when they share a division with Washington and Atlanta.
 
I like Inciarte. I can see why they took him in the Rule 5, plucky little ballplayer.

I like what I've seen in the field, I'm just skeptical about how he'll be at the plate while never seeing pitching above high A. With Darrin Ruf struggling both at the dish and in the field this Spring, it opened up a spot to at least give him a look.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Mat Latos, who many thought would suffer pitching half of his games in GAB as opposed to Petco, bounced back from a brutal April and posted an identical ERA as he did in 2011. He is a potential future ace, and a Cy Young darkhorse.

You might be wearing a tux, but with a comment like this, you look more like Lloyd Christmas, not Don Draper.

I really don't get your hate for Latos, but then I remember that you are gob and you think every player sucks, and then I get it.

"With that fly ball rate, he'll suck in GAB!"

(puts up nearly identical numbers across the board, has solid season)

"Middle rotation shitbum" - gob last month

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...2013&ind=0&team=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=

"Middle of the rotation shitbum" - gob
 
In addition to being a Cy Young darkhorse as a I predicted, I should also note that Latos is still quite young. He's only about a year older than Matt Harvey, but made the majors three years earlier, has 42 more wins, nearly 600 more innings pitched, and 500 more strikeouts. Latos is also only 3 months older than Kershaw.

So there is nothing unfair about "potential future ace", either.
 
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I don't know what they're writing in Cincinnati (but then again those writers think Brandon Phillips is an MVP candidate), but I haven't heard Latos' name mentioned in the Cy Young conversation at all this year. He's clearly in a class below Harvey, Kershaw and Wainwright.

hey look, gob still doesn't know what 'darkhorse' means


also, not that this has anything to do with anything, but I haven't seen a single writer suggest Philips is MVP
 
hey look, gob still doesn't know what 'darkhorse' means


also, not that this has anything to do with anything, but I haven't seen a single writer suggest Philips is MVP
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That's not a writer supporting Phillips for league MVP, that's a dumb tabloid narrative for TEAM MVP used to sell papers.

Obviously there are fans who overvalue the RBI, this isn't news. And Votto is hated among a subset of Reds "fans" because he isn't "aggressive" enough for their tastes at the plate. So it;s a newspaper gimmick thing.

Anyway, don't derail. Harvey hurt. If Latos finishes strong, and he has pitched very well the last month, as good as anybody, he is a lock for top 5 and will probably finish top 3. He has good peripherals, he is 4th in fWAR, and also has the stellar W/L record the older writers will look for.

We can quibble over what "darkhorse" means, but I know he's closer to being an ace than he is to being a "mid rotation shitbum". Please concede this one. Thanks.
 
Latos has beat Waino twice in the last week, and now has a lower ERA.

Latos can realistically finish as high as second in the Cy Young vote with a good finish. Top five I would think is a lock unless he has a couple of disaster starts.

 
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