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Rank'em nerds... #YoungPitcherz Edition

L

LiquidLarry2GhostWF

Highwayman
Not what they are now...but what they will be the future.

Kevin Gausman
Tyler Skaggs
Michael Wacha
Dan Straily
Julio Teharan
Carlos Martinez
Matt Harvey
Shelby Miller
Jose Fernandez
Taijuan Walker
Mark Appel
Jonathan Gray
Gerrit Cole
Jameson Taillon
Dylan Bundy
Lucas Giolito
Kohl Stewart
Archie Bradley
Noah Syndergaard
Tony Cingrani

GO.
 
1. Harvey
2. Bundy
3. Fernandez
4. Miller
5. Gray
6. Walker
7. Skaggs
8. Taillon
9. Appel
10. Martinez
11. Teheran
12. Cole
13. Gausman
14. Syndergaard
15. Wacha
16. Straily
17. Bradley
18. Giolito
19. Cingrani
20. Stewart
 
Jose Fernandez
Matt Harvey
Dylan Bundy
Shelby Miller
Carlos Martinez
Julio Teharan
Mark Appel
Gerrit Cole
Archie Bradley
Lucas Giolito
Tyler Skaggs
Jameson Taillon
Taijuan Walker
Michael Wacha
Kevin Gausman
Kohl Stewart
Noah Syndergaard
Jonathan Gray
Tony Cingrani
Dan Straily
 
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Considering I haven't seen half of the list throw a single pitch, and maybe a random inning or two of a few others, i'm going to pass. Some of these geeks are in the low minors.

With that said...

Glenbino said:
The Bauer Boys are going to come looking for you Larry
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...Trevor Bauer fucking sucks. He has no shot of being good. None.
 
LiquidLarry2GhostWF said:
Not what they are now...but what they will be the future.

Kevin Gausman
Tyler Skaggs
Michael Wacha
Dan Straily
Julio Teharan
Carlos Martinez
Matt Harvey
Shelby Miller
Jose Fernandez
Taijuan Walker
Mark Appel
Jonathan Gray
Gerrit Cole
Jameson Taillon
Dylan Bundy
Lucas Giolito
Kohl Stewart
Archie Bradley
Noah Syndergaard
Tony Cingrani

GO.
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Harvey
Fernandez
Bundy
Miller
Walker
Teheran
Gausman
Martinez
Cole
Taillon
Skaggs
Wacha
Appel
Bradley
Syndergaard

Should be listed above half these guys:
Moore
Sale

Way too early to rank:
Gray
Stewart
Giolito

LOL, no:
Straily
Cingrani
 
1. Matt Harvey
2. Jose Fernandez
3. Mark Appel
4. Shelby Miller
5. Dylan Bundy
6. Taijuan Walker
7. Jonathan Gray
8. Gerrit Cole
9. Jameson Taillon
10. Julio Teharan
11. Tyler Skaggs
12. Noah Syndergaard
13. Kevin Gausman
14. Kohl Stewart
15. Carlos Martinez
16. Dan Straily
17. Michael Wacha
18. Archie Bradley
19. Lucas Giolito
20. Tony Cingrani
 
Also, pretty silly to rank Cingrani at the bottom when he's already had major league success, when you can be certain that at least one or two of these guys will flop completely, and several others with be bums.

Even if Cingrani settles in as a fourth starter or setup man, which is probably a fair floor at this point, it'll mean he's had a better career than probably 7 or 8 of these guys minimum. If Cingrani has the 19th best career out of these 20, this is like the greatest collection of young pitching talent of all time.
 
NAHSTE said:
Harvey
Fernandez
Bundy
Miller
Walker
Teheran
Gausman
Martinez
Cole
Taillon
Skaggs
Wacha
Appel
Bradley
Syndergaard

Should be listed above half these guys:
Moore
Sale

Way too early to rank:
Gray
Stewart
Giolito

LOL, no:
Straily
Cingrani
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You really think HALF of that top list will end up better than Sale? Really?

You guys must think we're on the verge of a pitching renaissance era. Sale is pretty god damn awesome.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
You really think HALF of that top list will end up better than Sale? Really?

You guys must think we're on the verge of a pitching renaissance era. Sale is pretty god damn awesome.
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Not to be taken literally, I just meant that Moore and Sale should be on the list long before half these other names even got brought up given they are already accruing MLB service time while some of these guys haven't even thrown a single inning of pro ball before. Were he available I'd rank Sale just behind Harvey.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Also, pretty silly to rank Cingrani at the bottom when he's already had major league success, when you can be certain that at least one or two of these guys will flop completely, and several others with be bums.

Even if Cingrani settles in as a fourth starter or setup man, which is probably a fair floor at this point, it'll mean he's had a better career than probably 7 or 8 of these guys minimum. If Cingrani has the 19th best career out of these 20, this is like the greatest collection of young pitching talent of all time.
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Good point, Joe.

But with that said, there is no way to pick which of these geeks will settle in below a guy like Cingrani, without it being completely arbitrary. Because projections are largely based on upside & #stuff, which all of these guys have in high doses. So unless you are going strictly on gut feeling, how else are you supposed to construct a list?
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Good point, Joe.

But with that said, there is no way to pick which of these geeks will settle in below a guy like Cingrani, without it being completely arbitrary. Because projections are largely based on upside & #stuff, which all of these guys have in high doses. So unless you are going strictly on gut feeling, how else are you supposed to construct a list?
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Guys like Cingrani are put into this list because they are good barometers...if you almost all of these mooks ahead of Cingrani, you're probably blowing shit out of your ass, because most of these guys will end up blowing dick or having their arm fall off or going to the bullpen (much like Cingrani might)...
 
1. Gerrit Cole
2. Matt Harvey
3. Shelby Miller
4. Jose Fernandez
5. Taijuan Walker
6. Jameson Taillon
7. Dylan Bundy
8. Lucas Giolito
9 - 20. BUMS
 
LiquidLarry2GhostWF said:
Guys like Cingrani are put into this list because they are good barometers...if you almost all of these mooks ahead of Cingrani, you're probably blowing shit out of your ass, because most of these guys will end up blowing dick or having their arm fall off or going to the bullpen (much like Cingrani might)...
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Yeah, that's my point. We all know at least a third of the list will be complete shit, but how do you decide which ones without throwing darts?
 
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