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Red Sox, Francona Expected To Part Ways

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11:35 pm: Francona will ask the Red Sox to decline his option years, reports Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times. A Major League source tells Van Schouwen that Francona "has had his fill of the whole thing" in Boston and wishes to leave.

11:10 pm: Terry Francona is likely on his way out as the manager of the Boston Red Sox, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Francona is scheduled to meet with team management on Friday.

Rosenthal's sources say that it isn't completely certain that Boston will cut ties with Francona, but "it is the likely outcome, in part because he is pressing for a resolution" as to whether or not the Sox will pick up the option years on the manager's contract. The two-year option pickup would pay Francona $8.75MM over the next two seasons, but it seems like Boston will instead pay Francona the $0.75MM buyout. As Rosenthal notes, Francona would be immediately free to go elsewhere, and he cites the Cubs and White Sox as potential suitors.

Francona's departure would put the exclamation point on Boston's unlikely September meltdown. Just three weeks ago it seemed like a lock that Francona's option years would be exercised and he would remain the Red Sox manager for years to come. The club's stunning collapse down the stretch, however, sealed Francona's fate, particularly when stories surfaced of Francona feeling "bulletproof" about his job security and Peter Gammons' claim of "an increasing disconnect" between Francona and Theo Epstein.

In eight years as Boston's manager, Francona has a 744-552 record, reaching the playoffs five times and winning two AL pennants. Though his tenure with the team may have ended on a sour note this September, Francona will always be a legendary figure in Red Sox history for managing the club to World Series championships in 2004 and 2007.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/red-sox-francona-expected-to-part-ways-tomorrow.html
 
Good riddance.

Most overrated manager in baseball. Terrible at actual managing a ballgame. Nothing more than a media puppet and a door mat for the players to walk all on.
 
Good riddance.

Most overrated manager in baseball. Terrible at actual managing a ballgame. Nothing more than a media puppet and a door mat for the players to walk all on.

:wut: even with 2 championships? I'd think the guy who helped deliver Boston's first World Series in nearly a century would be king.
 
Yeah I don't feel the same as Lanteri. I very much appreciate what he did during his tenure. Would have been fine to see him return, but still look forward to some new blood. I don't think he was the problem.
 
From his press conference:

Former Red Sox manager Terry Francona said it was his call to end his eight-year tenure with the Red Sox today.

"It was my decision. I don't know what I want to do. I know I want to stay in the game," he said.

"I think it's time for a new voice here," Francona said. "I think it's the right thing to do for the organization and itself."

He also said the discord in the Red Sox clubhouse was a big factor in the decision.

"I felt frustrated that I was unable to reach guys maybe I've been able to in the past," he said.

He talked about the challenges of a high-profile job in one of the country's most high-profile sports cities.

"It's a wonderful place, but a difficult place to be the manager, and it does wear on you," he said.

He declined to answer a question about a report that some pitchers were drinking beer in the clubhouse on days they were not scheduled to pitch.

loled at the beer part
 
Most overrated? I think that TLR definitely gives him a run for his money there.

I'm sure all Boston fans would love to go back to the glory days of Grady Little.

I miss the tortured Red Sox nation, these winning Sawx fans are much more annoying and ignorant.

I'm not a huge LaRussa supporter, but how to you say that a manager who had led his team to the playoffs 8 out of the last 11 years is the most overrated manager in the league?
 
OMG guys, pitchers were drinking BEER in the clubhouse on their off days!!??

Pitchers used to drink between innings. Urban Shocker used to bring a flask to the mound.

Grover Cleveland Alexander, after pitching two CG SHO's in Game 2 & Game 6, got hammered before the final game of the World Series, figuring he wouldn't be pitching that day. With the bases loaded and two outs in the 7th, he was called into the game. He stammered to the mound and struck out Tony Lazzeri to end the inning, then pitched two shutout innings to clinch the series.

And look at this ruffian, named Lou Gehrig!

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I guess it has more to do with how people revere the guy. And they're making the playoffs in a division they should be dominating every year with the team that their front office puts together.

I think the Cards would be a lot better with a manager who isn't afraid to just let his team play every once and awhile.

He's probably not the most overrated though. Not while Clint Hurdle still has a job. People still like to give him credit for the Rockies' WS run and when the Pirates were toying with .500 this year he was getting props again. IRL Hurdle is probably a bottom 10 MLB manager.

The funny thing is, there are a lot of people in St. Louis that would completely agree that Tony is the most overrated manager in the league.

Contrary to what most people outside of St. Louis believe, LaRussa is not very well liked overall in St. Louis. Most people know that he is an arrogant jackass and, in addition, he drives a lot of people crazy with his over-managing. Personally, despite his flaws, I find it hard to not support him with all the success he's had in St. Louis. The Cardinals have been in the playoff race every year in September since 2000, all with a payroll that is usually around 10th in the league.

With all that being said, I think more of LaRussa's success can be attributed to Dave Duncan, who in my opinion is one of the greatest pitching coaches of all time. Would be interesting to see LaRussa move on to another team without Duncan.
 
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Will be interested to see who we hire to replace Tito. A lot of people are talking about Bobby Valentine, while that would definitely be interesting to say the least I don't know if he would work out in Boston.

Kind of hoping we go and get Dave Martinez from Tampa. Then there is also speculation of guys like Ryne Sandberg, Torey Lovullo, and Damarlo Hale. Although with Hale I doubt they would hire him since he was part of the staff that couldn't get through to the players.

Sucks that Farrell Got the Toronto job last year as he would have been an ideal candidate.



Bold prediction: Francona will be the Cardinals manager in 2012.
Wouldn't really surprise me. I could see him going there or to Chicago (both)

I miss the tortured Red Sox nation, these winning Sawx fans are much more annoying and ignorant.
Yep, Majority of the Red Sox fan base consists of two groups. The pink hats who invade Fenway singing Sweet Caroline and would cheer for Hitler if he wore a Red Sox jersey, then you have the entitled, miserable "diehards" who are equally annoying as the pink hats but on the opposite end of the spectrum.
 
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I am shocked, but in last 36 hrs every exec talk to says believe #Redsox will give permssion and Theo will go to #Cubs to be GM
 
OMG guys, pitchers were drinking BEER in the clubhouse on their off days!!??

Pitchers used to drink between innings. Urban Shocker used to bring a flask to the mound.

Grover Cleveland Alexander, after pitching two CG SHO's in Game 2 & Game 6, got hammered before the final game of the World Series, figuring he wouldn't be pitching that day. With the bases loaded and two outs in the 7th, he was called into the game. He stammered to the mound and struck out Tony Lazzeri to end the inning, then pitched two shutout innings to clinch the series.

And look at this ruffian, named Lou Gehrig!

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What's Old Hoss have to say about it?
 
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