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Redskins = Assholes

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Redskins suing fans who can’t keep their season tickets
Sporting News staff reports
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The Washington Redskins have sued 125 season ticket holders who asked to be released from multiyear contracts in the past five years, the Washington Post reports.

The newspaper says it interviewed more than 20 of those season ticket holders, and most said they had lost a job or experienced some other financial hardship. Redskins lawyer David Donovan told the newspaper lawsuits are a last resort and that they involve only a small percentage of the team's 20,000 annual premium seat contracts.

"The Washington Redskins routinely work out payment plans and alternate arrangements with hundreds of ticket holders every year," Donovan said. "For every one we sue, I would guess we work out a deal with half a dozen."

Donovan said the team has agreed to reduce the number of seats in a contract, waived contracts for a year, shortened contracts and terminated contracts early. Most of the lawsuits are filed after people "simply refuse to negotiate with us. They've been made an offer, but they just said no," he said.

Many of the fans sued by the team whom the newspaper interviewed said they did receive offers to settle, but the arrangements required hefty payments over time.

The Post reviewed lawsuits in which the Daniel M. Snyder-controlled entity WFI Stadium Inc. sued 125 Redskin ticket holders for a total of $3.6 million. The team won judgments totaling $2 million from 34 season ticket holders, most of whom did not hire an attorney and defaulted by not making an appearance in court.

Donovan said other teams sue their fans. "I don't know of any pro football team that doesn't," he said.

But spokesmen for the following National Football League teams said they do not sue their fans over season ticket contracts: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, New York Giants and Jets, Seattle Seahawks and Tennessee Titans.

The New England Patriots have sued multiyear premium ticket holders. A Chicago Bears spokesman said, "In rare instances, we have sued."

Officials with the Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, Miami Dolphins, San Francisco 49ers and Indianapolis Colts declined to comment on the query. Other teams did not respond.

Fans also accuse the team of double-dipping by suing for the value of the full contract then re-selling the tickets to other fans. Donovan denies the claim, saying even when a team gets a judgment, that doesn't mean they're getting any money.

The Redskins also are suing corporations who have ditched their skyboxes. The team has won $8 million in judgments in eight cases.
 
Tell you what. If you can prove to me that that's the case (as in he's done that sort of thing to his own fanbase at any time in the past), I'll rescind it.

He never said Jones already did it. He said it sounds like something he would do. It does sound like something he would do though.
 
Officials with the Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, Miami Dolphins, San Francisco 49ers and Indianapolis Colts declined to comment on the query.

There was a time when a "decline to comment" could mean some form of guilt.............j/k
 
I understand being a fan of a team, but are we really at the point where we're defending owners now? Who gives a fuck if Jerry Jones would do it or wouldn't? These guys are all loaded and I would imagine most of them to get there had to be an insufferable prick at least 5 or 6 times in their lives.
 
I understand being a fan of a team, but are we really at the point where we're defending owners now? Who gives a fuck if Jerry Jones would do it or wouldn't? These guys are all loaded and I would imagine most of them to get there had to be an insufferable prick at least 5 or 6 times in their lives.
Not defending, just asking the question.

Jerry's done plenty of fucked up shit in the time he's owned the Cowboys. Hell, the very day he bought the team, he fired the only coach they'd ever had in the most undeserving way possible. And that's far from the only thing.

But sueing your fans for not making good on season tickets? That's unheard of, and if Jerry had done that, there's no way we wouldn't have known the way the media is all over him.
 
This suggests it's not unheard of.

Exactly, the only reason this is a story now is because of the financial times we're in. It makes for a juicy story to say, "NFL teams and their billionaire owners are suing their fans who are lucky to even have a pot to piss in."
 
Honestly, did you even read the article? Or did the headline just say "Redskins Sueing fans!" and you decided to do some redskin hating?

But spokesmen for the following National Football League teams said they do not sue their fans over season ticket contracts: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, New York Giants and Jets, Seattle Seahawks and Tennessee Titans.

The New England Patriots have sued multiyear premium ticket holders. A Chicago Bears spokesman said, "In rare instances, we have sued."

Officials with the Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, Miami Dolphins, San Francisco 49ers and Indianapolis Colts declined to comment on the query. Other teams did not respond.

Hm... So the Patriots and Bears have also sued their fans. Also, When a team declines to comment, this is usually them admitting guilt. If they didn't sue their fans, they would openly say they didn't because that would be good PR for them. If they openly come out about sueing, that is bad PR. It's basic principles. Dallas Cowboys declined to comment, meaning they have probably sued their fans but don't want it to get out.


Also, incase your just completly fucking retarded, these fans sign CONTRACTS stating they will pay for their tickets for X amount of years. I bet there is a clause in the CONTRACT which talks about terminating the contract, and I bet this clause was breached. The Redskins have ever right to sue, especially if they're losing $3.6 million from people ditching their tickets last minute.


Next time, atleast make sure your own team isn't incriminated before making fun of others. How's the jerrytron going? Raise it yet?
 
Or maybe they declined to comment because they dont give a fuck what the Redskins do?

And Drop the Jerrytron stuff, played a full game with no problems already. No reason to move it up.
 
Honestly, did you even read the article? Or did the headline just say "Redskins Sueing fans!" and you decided to do some redskin hating?



Hm... So the Patriots and Bears have also sued their fans. Also, When a team declines to comment, this is usually them admitting guilt. If they didn't sue their fans, they would openly say they didn't because that would be good PR for them. If they openly come out about sueing, that is bad PR. It's basic principles. Dallas Cowboys declined to comment, meaning they have probably sued their fans but don't want it to get out.


Also, incase your just completly fucking retarded, these fans sign CONTRACTS stating they will pay for their tickets for X amount of years. I bet there is a clause in the CONTRACT which talks about terminating the contract, and I bet this clause was breached. The Redskins have ever right to sue, especially if they're losing $3.6 million from people ditching their tickets last minute.


Next time, atleast make sure your own team isn't incriminated before making fun of others. How's the jerrytron going? Raise it yet?
"No comment" =/= incriminating last I checked.

I missed the lines on the Pats and Bears. Doesn't make it any less appalling. Especially when you consider the amount of fans these teams claim to have on their waiting lists. Why not just take the tickets away, charge a "contract termination" fee, and turn around and sell the tix to someone who can afford them. They recoup all the money lost and then some.

If Jerry Jones had ever done such a thing, it'd be all over some media outlet when you consider how often they sniff around trying to discredit him. If you say Jerry Jones has done it to loads of fans without a legitimate reason, as in using tickets they are NOT paying for, I'll call bullshit.

And I love the way anytime I say something here, even if it has jack shit to do with the Dallas Cowboys, the attacks rain down. Simply love it.
 
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