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Strikeforce Challengers 11: October 22nd on Showtime

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Izzy is a bum
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Strikeforce - Challengers 11
October 22, 2010
Save Mart Center,
Fresno, California, United States

Main Card:

Roger Bowling vs. Bobby Voelker
Lavar Johnson vs. Virgil Zwicker
Billy Evangelista vs. Waachiim Spiritwolf
Shana Olsen vs. Julia Budd
Brandon Cash vs John Devine

Prelim Card:

Dominic Clark vs. David Douglas
Gregg Baker vs. Paul Ruiz*
Avery Kaykeo vs. Richard Parra*
Chris Bonilla vs. Alvaro Corral*
Sean Baker vs. Nick Bustamonte*
Keith Cutrone vs. Brandon Horton*
Luis Briseno vs. Ivan Watts*
Christian Buron vs. Mike Gonzales*

* - Amateur bout

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFoAZT5Oins[/ame]
 
still on the fence for a couple picks, Lavar doesnt have good TD defense and still not sure how his gas tank will be in this fight

Olsen is the favorite, but I almost might pick Budd
 
Liquidrob said:
just stop

you dont like bellator, SF challengers, japan cards, basically you're saying you dont follow MMA
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Challengers are fucking TERRIBLE.

Bellator blows outside of a dozen or so fighters. It is what it is. Just because Eddie Alvarez and Joe Warren are awesome doesnt mean the product on the whole isnt bad.

I never once said I dont like Japanese MMA. I dont like staying up till 6am to watch Japanese MMA, fucking sue me.

Cool to know that Bellator and SF Challengers are the only events in MMA. Fuck me for not following this sport.
 
Challengers puts on good cards, only bad one I remember was Prangley/Amoussou, besides that they are good

Bellator and Challengers put the spot light on young talent, any MMA fan should enjoy watching them

This season for Bellator isnt as good because HW and Female MMA are hit and miss sometimes, HW's were sloppy, some people dont like womens fights, plus the BW's went to a lot of decisions, but you still get some great fights

You have ripped on Japan cards being on the guru in the past, but whatever, I don't know how any true MMA fan doesnt like Bellator or SF Challengers, MMA doesnt have to be 'big fights' all the time, thats more of the casual fan mindset IMO

This is 'The Real MMA Guru', not 'The Real Casual Guru'
 
I only rip on cards with a lot of fighters that most ppl arent familiar with, or with squash matches, to be on GURU. That includes American and Japanese, has nothing to do with disliking Japanese MMA or it needing to be "big fights". Is there some good fights on Bellator? For sure, and I will tune in when I see an intriguing match-up or hear there was a good fight. But I just dont see where the real skill is coming in when at times for some its just guess work (via minor research maybe) or all of us picking the same fighter in a squash match.

Like I said to Empire, im not gonna watch MMA just for the sake of it being MMA. I dont watch WNBA just because I like basketball. I want to see a good product lol. If I watch and am not turned on by what im seeing, im not gonna force myself to watch it.

And you can call me a casual fan all you want Rob, its no skin off my back, I dont really need anyones vindication to be a fan of MMA.
 
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