Texas to TAMU: Sorry, schedule is full

[Warner2BruceTD]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...s-bill-byrne-nonconference-schedule-full-2018

Wow.

Is Texas/Notre Dame a real option as a Thanksgiving Day replacement game moving forward? If not, Texas is being spiteful cocks and just punishing their own fans by ending a 117 year tradition.

 

[BrntO4Life]

If not, Texas is being spiteful cocks and just punishing their own fans by ending a 117 year tradition.

I know very few Texas fans who actually give a shit about this game. It is, and always will be about OU.

 

[NAHSTE]

Probably not in the near future. ND has a brutal schedule the next 5 or so seasons, and a lot of their schedules are already full.

Yeah that home and home with Temple should be grueling. Can't forget that tough UConn game at Gillette Stadium. Should be a raucous affair. Or how about that tough November match up with the Demon Deacons?

Oh and Texas is already on the schedule for September of 2015.

I know very few Texas fans who actually give a shit about this game. It is, and always will be about OU.

Doesn't make it any better. This is yet another shitty move on UT's part.

 

[padman59]

I wouldn't mind seeing more ND/Texas matchups scheduled. It probably wouldn't be a Thanksgiving weekend game since ND rotates between Stanford and Southern Cal though.

 

[BrntO4Life]

Doesn't make it any better. This is yet another shitty move on UT's part.

How so? I still love how UT gets the brunt of the public's anger in this whole situation when people aren't actually looking at it closely.

What does A&M rightfully have to be upset about except their own insolence?

First, A&M screams that it's all about money. The B12 decides to give A&M, Texas, and Oklahoma $20 million per school after the departures of Nebraska and Colorado, while the rest of the B12 gets ~$14 million each. Happy, right? Nope.

Then, they claimed it was because of the LHN and the unfair advantage it gave Texas. Well, it's hardly UT's fault that Texas A&M AD Bill Byrne told Texas AD DeLoss Dodds that a "Lone Star Network" (the initial plan was a channel to be split by the two schools) was a terrible idea and that A&M wanted no part. 4 years later, Texas decides to bear all the risk and go it alone and nabs a 20-year/$300 million deal (which is worth MUCH more) from ESPN. A&M is pissed, but that anger is misplaced.

Then, A&M (and others) balk at the idea of the LHN playing any role in airing high school content. Texas eventually concedes and no HS content of any kind will be airing on the LHN in the near future (no, not even highlights).

And through it all, A&M still leaves.

Listen, I have no problem with A&M going to the SEC. If you want to trek out on your own, then do so. But don't stand in the fucking doorway screaming about how you're leaving and never coming back and this is all Texas' fault. No one pushed them out, but they sure want everyone to think that's the case.

I know most of you guys can't grasp it because you're removed from this fanbase, but Texas fans don't give a shit anymore. We're tired of the incessant bitching and the "Little Brother" attitude that pervades College Station and their ilk.

I hope they do well in the SEC, I really do, but I don't see how it's even close to possible.

As for Texas refusing to play them? Why the hell not? A&M was hellbent on leaving and to play them now only benefits Agricultural and Mechanical, not Austin. I see no reason why UT should help ease A&M into the SEC when the Aggies bitched the whole way out the door.

 

[FirstTimer]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...s-bill-byrne-nonconference-schedule-full-2018

Wow.

Is Texas/Notre Dame a real option as a Thanksgiving Day replacement game moving forward? If not, Texas is being spiteful cocks and just punishing their own fans by ending a 117 year tradition.

I wouldn't mind seeing more ND/Texas matchups scheduled. It probably wouldn't be a Thanksgiving weekend game since ND rotates between Stanford and Southern Cal though.

This.

Yeah that home and home with Temple should be grueling. Can't forget that tough UConn game at Gillette Stadium. Should be a raucous affair. Or how about that tough November match up with the Demon Deacons?

Oh and Texas is already on the schedule for September of 2015.


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We wanted to play NW St. and Western Kentucky but you guys already had them.

 

[NAHSTE]

When I said "not for the next five seasons" I meant "not until they begin playing their previously scheduled games." Sorry I didn't clarify. Nice try knocking our schedule, though. Try Miami, Oklahoma, Michigan, Michigan St, USC, Stanford, Pittsburgh, Arizona State, Northwestern.

Oh and Texas is already on the schedule for opening the season in September of 2016.

Oh and that contract with UConn is supposed to be cancelled soon.

:yell:

:joker:

You really think those are impressive? And aside from name, Miami and Michigan do not qualify as tough games right now. Not ND's fault those teams suck but I'm not gonna give them credit for a BRUTAL SCHEDULE either.

In sum ... no fucks given.

We wanted to play NW St. and Western Kentucky but you guys already had them.

You really want to do this FT? I don't think you want to do this. You must have LSU confused with a team that hasn't played four ranked opponents in the first six games, three of which on the road.

 

[NAHSTE]

I do.

I really don't think you do.

I give you credit for playing Oregon at a neutral site, I do. And I'm not arguing that LSU isn't the best team in the country right now, bc IMO they are.

BUT

South Florida was ranked as high as 14th in the country this year. I get that they lost, I do. But they lost to Pitt....an ND opponent.

They were ranked that high because they beat Notre Dame in the opener and Notre Dame was for some reason ranked heading into the season. They were unranked heading into the game. You are seriously trying to count that? LOL.

Michigan? Undefeated and ranked 11th. Michigan State? One loss (us) and ranked 20th. That will change this weekend, because they play each other.

Clearly you do not know my opinion of Big Ten football. It's shit, frankly, and any results six weeks into the season are meaningless.

Pitt? I get that they're shitty. It's not an easy road game, though, and they upset a good USF team.

Again, USF beat Notre Dame. That does not mean they are good. This is basically a triangle of shit teams you've drawn for us.

Michigan isn't good right now?

Not really.

Ranked 11th? Undefeated?

For now.

LSU non-conf 2012?

N Texas/Washington/Idaho/Towson

Probably going to lose one of those OOC slots when Texas A&M joins. I hope it's Towson. Under no circumstances am I okay with LSU scheduling Towson. But anyway, comparing an OOC schedule of an SEC team and the schedule of INDEPENDENT Notre Dame is kind of silly. I'd hope you could fill out a decent schedule with 12 open dates and perpetual rivalries with the likes of Purdue and Navy.

So you're saying you want ND to play this schedule?

Navy*
@ MSU
Mich
Miami*
@ Texas
Stanford
BYU
@ Oklahoma
Pitt
@ BC
Wake
@ USC

There's a lot of name recognition here, sure. There are plenty of prominent programs included which should make for some good TV ratings. In other words, this is what Notre Dame should be playing if they are not going to join a conference. You can't fill out the schedule with games like Tulsa and UConn (and then lose those games, to boot) and expect to stay relevant. That's the downside of having a big dick and staying independent. You have to play big name opponents to keep eye balls on your precious TV network.

Yup, we're the only team that will hold an inter-sectional rivalry in the middle or end of the season.

Yup, because all the other schools are too busy playing conference games late in the season. Excuse me for finding it a little hard to give a shit that you play Stanford every season when LSU will within their own conference play the past three national champions in a four week stretch. And that is the case EVERY. YEAR.


The lesson, as always, no fucks given. Stop crying and pretending that is a BRUTAL schedule.

 

[Sharkweather]

Where is this Texas shit coming from for your 2012 schedule. Didn't you hear? They are full up until '18.

 

[NAHSTE]

Quote fail, argument fail. You seriously are using Stanford's 2011 ranking to apply to a 2012 schedule? And why are you comparing next year's Notre Dame schedule (with Texas randomly added for some reason) to LSU's 2011 schedule?

Stop.

 

[KNUBB]

The whole point is Texas is being super bitchmade and spiteful towards aTm

 

[BrntO4Life]

The whole point is Texas is being super bitchmade and spiteful towards aTm

Imagine you had a roommate that you didn't get along with all that well, but things were at least civil.

Then, the week before your lease was up, this roommate just started talking major shit to you about everything he hates about you every single day.

On the move out day, this roommate pisses all over your belongings, moves out, and tries to not pay their portion of the cleaning fee for the lease.

Then, you get a call a month later from that same person asking if you want to hang out...

Now tell me: Why in the fuck would you waste your own time spending any time with them?

 

[FirstTimer]

The lesson, as always, no fucks given. Stop crying and pretending that is a BRUTAL schedule.

I don't recall me saying Notre Dame's schedule is brutal. But year in year out Notre Dame plays around the 25th ranked schedule in the entire country. MAC schools that are on everyone's schedule yearly Notre Dame just played their first MAC school ever last season.

I don't think Notre Dame has ever played an FCS school.

Is Notre Dame's schedule as top heavy as it used to be? No. But it can't be with the way conferences soaked up really good independents and with them expanding there are less open dates.

No one is trying to say Notre Dame plays the toughest schedule in the nation. But to try and argue Notre Dame's schedule on a year in year out basis isn't difficult in relation to every other school is absurd and flat out false.

Most any objective service ranks ND's schedule pretty highly after each year.

As for your ranked team arguments. MSU is no longer ranked...and bad and Florida is no longer ranked. Evaluating a schedule through half the seaosn is always dumb anyways. In 2003 everyone laughed at Notre Dame's schedule. End of the season? Ranked as the toughest schedule in the nation.

 

[Sharkweather]

I don't recall anyone saying Notre Dame's schedule is brutal.

Kind of what started the whole conversation..

ND has a brutal schedule the next 5 or so seasons

 

[FirstTimer]

Kind of what started the whole conversation..

Rephrase.

I never claimed ND's schedule was brutal.

Here's schedules/partials through 2018.
http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/future_schedules/notredame_future.htm

 

[NAHSTE]

No one is trying to say Notre Dame plays the toughest schedule in the nation. But to try and argue Notre Dame's schedule on a year in year out basis isn't difficult in relation to every other school is absurd and flat out false.

I did not say that. I said that JayRock was exaggerating how BRUTAL it was. You and he were the ones who directly compared it to LSU's scheduling. I don't think that's a good idea considering LSU is one of the few SEC schools that does go OOC for tough games. And that's all I was saying.

Evaluating a schedule through half the seaosn is always dumb anyways. [/QUOTE]

Yep. Even dumber is comparing that halfway completed schedule to a fictional version of Notre Dame's 2012 schedule that adds Texas and pretends Andrew Luck and Landry Jones will still be around.


In sum - Notre Dame's schedule is not soft or anything but JayRock was exaggerating (in typical JayRock drama queen fashion).

 

[FirstTimer]

I did not say that. I said that JayRock was exaggerating how BRUTAL it was. You and he were the ones who directly compared it to LSU's scheduling.

And LSU still schedules softies..But I was making a joke and you got all defensive over it and asked if I "really wanted" to go there? Why wouldn't I? Notre Dame's schedule is fine with me. It's difficult enough and it doesn't get any easier coming up.

IMO you went drama queen over a joke about NW St and Western Kentucky.

JayRock has a chance of being right at least. As do you. But to make any judgements for sure until the season has been played is cart before the horse. We will find out after each season.

Evaluating a schedule through half the seaosn is always dumb anyways.

Quote fail

:smug:

Yep. Even dumber is comparing that halfway completed schedule to a fictional version of Notre Dame's 2012 schedule that adds Texas and pretends Andrew Luck and Landry Jones will still be around.

Stanford will still be good. I doubt Luck comes back but I believe he could be..He has another year left doesn't he? I really highly doubt Oklahoma falls off that hard with no Jones. They'll just plug in another 5 star guy and carry on with the spread. Good team don't rebuild. They reload.

Michigan and Miami will be interesting and so will USC. I guess we will see in December of 2012.

 

[NAHSTE]

And LSU still schedules softies..

Two or three "Rent a wins" per year and still a top 20 SOS every year. And I'm of the belief that elite FCS teams like App. State are just as good at this point as the terrible MAC/Sun Belt schools but that's for another thread.

But I was making a joke and you got all defensive over it and asked if I "really wanted" to go there? Why wouldn't I? Notre Dame's schedule is fine with me. It's difficult enough and it doesn't get any easier coming up.

IMO you went drama queen over a joke about NW St and Western Kentucky.

Probably, but I think it's a lazy and tired comeback. So what if those teams are on the schedule? It's a fucking loaded schedule as is. Excuse us for not adding another token BCS team like Wake or UConn for appearances sake.

As for the rest, I really don't think Notre Dame's schedule is soft and I don't really care to compare it to any other school because it's comparing apples and oranges. JayRock is totally overstating the difficulty of Notre Dame's schedule, IMO.

 

[FirstTimer]

Probably, but I think it's a lazy and tired comeback. So what if those teams are on the schedule? It's a fucking loaded schedule as is. Excuse us for not adding another token BCS team like Wake or UConn for appearances sake.

Ok. And you don't think bringing up ND playing Wake, Temple, or UCONN is a tired comeback? Are Wake and UCONN top tier programs? No. But they've both been to BCS games in the last 5 years. NW St, Towson, Western Kentucky haven't been there and won't be there any time soon.

Also, Wake is a great example of preseason expectation/schedules. Prior to this year Maryland looked like a much tougher game than Wake. Right now, that Wake game looks a lot tougher than it did 6 weeks ago etc.

 

[ryne candy]

Imagine you had a roommate that you didn't get along with all that well, but things were at least civil.

Then, the week before your lease was up, this roommate just started talking major shit to you about everything he hates about you every single day.

On the move out day, this roommate pisses all over your belongings, moves out, and tries to not pay their portion of the cleaning fee for the lease.

Then, you get a call a month later from that same person asking if you want to hang out...

Now tell me: Why in the fuck would you waste your own time spending any time with them?

Making it sound as if A&M leaving hurts Texas. They are doing it because they want to stick it to A&M but might end up looking dumb. I was surprised that A&M actually still wants to play them with SEC schedule they will have. I'm sure we will play them again if OU leaves, since they don't care about Red River SO...lol.