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There is something that I don't get at all...

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Such a fucking stupid oversimplification.

Donte Stallworth wasn't involved in an illegal sport that is a felony across the nation.

Donte Stallworth didn't oversee a large illegal gambling venture.

Donte Stallworth didn't lie about his involvement in said illegal gambling venture to the gov't and his employers.

Donte Stallworth didn't have friends turn their back on him and volunteered to give up all the info on said illegal gambling venture.

Donte Stallworth didn't fail a drug test when he was indicted.

That is why he got two years. Not just because of the dogs. Now:

:stfu:
 
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Supposedly the guy sort of popped out into the middle of the road (i think there was a witness in another car not just saying "Stallworth said it.") and was actually the guy in the wrong for doing it. Stallworth just happened to be driving tipsy, but it wasn't truly his fault.

Not to mention the family themselves seemed to acknowledge this and were happy to take a quick settlement on the issue.
 
Tomato Ketchup said:
Such a fucking stupid oversimplification.

Donte Stallworth wasn't involved in an illegal sport that is a felony across the nation.

Donte Stallworth didn't oversee a large illegal gambling venture.

Donte Stallworth didn't lie about his involvement in said illegal gambling venture to the gov't and his employers.

Donte Stallworth didn't have friends turn their back on him and volunteered to give up all the info on said illegal gambling venture.

Donte Stallworth didn't fail a drug test when he was indicted.

That is why he got two years. Not just because of the dogs. Now:

:stfu:
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The dogs definitely had an impact on it.. sad or not, society is quicker to forgive you for manslaughter than dogslaughter.
 
nyg4lyfe91 said:
Michael Vick gets 2 years in prison for dog fighting while Donte Stallworth gets 30 days for killing a person. Someone please explain that to me, It looks that nowadays dogs are more important than people...:shot:
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If Vick had been driving drunk and ran over a dog, he wouldn't have gotten 30 days, and probably wouldn't have done any time at all.

Meanwhile, if Stallworth was running an illegal underground fight club, and was murdering the losing combatants, i'm quite positive he'd get more than 2 years.

So no, the justice system does not value the lives of dogs more than humans.
 
Bob Kuzzy said:
The dogs definitely had an impact on it.. sad or not, society is quicker to forgive you for manslaughter than dogslaughter.
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I don't disagree that the fact they were dogs had an impact on the sentence, but I think the things I listed made the difference between a six month sentence and two years. Trying to make it seem like Vick was punished solely for abusing dogs is shortsighted.
 
For the stallworth case they had video of Mr. Reyes going infront of Stallworths car trying to get to the other side. So it wasn't really stallworths fault.
 
Because Stallworth is paying a shitload to the family. Things aren't always as simple as they seem.
 
Prodigal Son said:
It's called the Florida Judicial System and loop holes.

He got 30 days because of a fucking loop hole.
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Is the loophole Stallworth flashing his lights? Cause if it is I'm about to run a shit load of people over but i gotta remember to flash my lights.
 
Leftwich said:
Is the loophole Stallworth flashing his lights? Cause if it is I'm about to run a shit load of people over but i gotta remember to flash my lights.
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I believe they found that the man Stallworth hit was jay walking, which under Florida law, clears the drunk driver from all wrong doing.
 
^lol. Accept for the fact that he still went to jail. Which I'm not arguing against, I just think your statement was funny.

Anyway, I meant to tell the OP earlier that this was a bad idae. People already have their mind made up on this, the courts already have their mind made up on this, plus it's in the past. I don't think it's just, either, but they're both out of prison and Vick's not bitching about it, so maybe we shouldn't either...

Also, is anyone really impressed with Stallworth these days? At all? I mean, he's an average player at best. Cooperating with authorities doens't make him a good player, though I'm glad he didn't have to go to jail for long... (Actually, ignore that if you want... It's just sort of funny to me that Stallworth is making headlines.)
 
Tomato Ketchup said:
Such a fucking stupid oversimplification.

Donte Stallworth wasn't involved in an illegal sport that is a felony across the nation.

Donte Stallworth didn't oversee a large illegal gambling venture.

Donte Stallworth didn't lie about his involvement in said illegal gambling venture to the gov't and his employers.

Donte Stallworth didn't have friends turn their back on him and volunteered to give up all the info on said illegal gambling venture.

Donte Stallworth didn't fail a drug test when he was indicted.

That is why he got two years. Not just because of the dogs. Now:

:stfu:
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But at the end of the day, Stallworth was still responsible for killing a human being and Vick dogs.
 
dave said:
But at the end of the day, Stallworth was still responsible for killing a human being and Vick dogs.
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If it was just that, killing dogs, Vick probably wouldn't have done much time if at all. It's the whole interstate gambling thing that made it an auto federal offense. People need to stop with the dogs = humans debate because that's not what we are debating. Shit, Vick's former teammate, Falcons DT Jonathan Babineaux murdered his girlfriend's dog in cold blood and didn't miss a game.

We're comparing vehicular homicide to federal interstate conspiracy. Two totally different types of crimes.

Vick ran a criminal enterprise. The killing of dogs makes the dog lovers and PETA angry but I'm sure the NFL and the feds could give two shits about that, it's the interstate gambling that did him in.

I'm a huge Vick fan and supporter and even I can see the difference. Why is this still being discussed however 2 years later? Haven't we all gotten past this?
 
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NAHSTE13 said:
If it was just that, killing dogs, Vick probably wouldn't have done much time if at all. It's the whole interstate gambling thing that made it an auto federal offense. People need to stop with the dogs = humans debate because that's not what we are debating. Shit, Vick's former teammate, Falcons DT Jonathan Babineaux murdered his girlfriend's dog in cold blood and didn't miss a game.

We're comparing vehicular homicide to federal interstate conspiracy. Two totally different types of crimes.

Vick ran a criminal enterprise. The killing of dogs makes the dog lovers and PETA angry but I'm sure the NFL and the feds could give two shits about that, it's the interstate gambling that did him in.

I'm a huge Vick fan and supporter and even I can see the difference. Why is this still being discussed however 2 years later? Haven't we all gotten past this?
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Interstate gambling?

Fuck. Who cares.

Online poker is interstate gambling.
 
Ok so get past the dogs vs humans debate.

Its fucked up that illegal gambling and lying is a more serious offense than killing another person.
 
Dalhausser said:
Ok so get past the dogs vs humans debate.

Its fucked up that illegal gambling and lying is a more serious offense than killing another person.
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Not really. Think of the Enron debacle. Lay & Skilling ruined the lives of thousands of people whom they employed, yet they didn't kill anyone. IMO what they did is worse than what Donte Stallworth did. I think what happened to Stallworth 'could' have happened to a lot of people...it was an accident. What Lay & Skilling did was premeditated greed.
 
I hope all these short sighted people never end up on a Jury!!!!

You really need to look at ALL the facts in a case before coming to some kind of judgment. The idea that dogs > humans is ridiculous.

The court system MUST look at ALL the facts, such as:

The man was illegally JAYWALKING onto a busy HIGHWAY. Along with the state (intoxicated) that Donte was in while driving. It then has to determine how much influence each fact had on the accident/death.

Sadly, the man had a lot to do with his own death.
 
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