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Thoughts on Packers-Bears game

Senser81

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The result was expected, and the game was somewhat perfunctory, but there were a lot of strange things that happened during the game. The outcome of the game was even more important considering teams like the Vikings, Redskins, Cowboys, and Seahawks all won. Not good for the Bears. Good for the Packers, though, because I was figuring their loss to Seattle would end up costing them a playoff spot. Anyway, lots to discuss about the coaches.

*The most obvious difference of the game was Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler. Rodgers was very good, Cutler was very bad.

*Bears had success early attacking the outside of GBs defense, especially running away from Matthews. Forte had some solid outside runs, and a couple screen passes worked well. After they went up 7-0, the Bears spent the rest of the game unsuccessfully trying to run Forte between the tackles, and never called another screen. Very odd.

*The Packers could pretty much move up and down the field on the Bears. The fumble by Ryan Grant was one of the biggest plays of the game, because the Packers were on their way to go up 28-7 and put the game away. Why McCarthy felt the need to insert Grant into the game at that point is beyond me.

*Another big play, and the most puzzling call from McCarthy was the botched home run throwback punt return. Why? The offense could move the ball. No need to risk giving the Bears a short field. At worst, you punt the ball back to Chicago, wait 3 downs, and get the ball back.

*Midway through the game, the Packers had a 1st and goal on the 1-inch line...and then get called for a delay of game. What is McCarthy doing? Just snap the ball and walk into the endzone.

*Cutler was terrible. Here is what I don't get about him...he throws into coverage, then when he gets picked off he bitches at the WR. For example, the INT to Hester was unexplainable. Even if Cutler expected Hester to stop his route and wait for the ball, Hayward was already standing in front of Hester. That route was not open. Hester then ran to an open area of the field, but Cutler's lame-ass throw got picked off anyways. Several questions...what is Hester doing on the field? Why do the Bears allow Hester to run option routes? Why is Cutler throwing to Hester when he's blanketed in coverage?

*Another unexplainable play was Cutler's lob into the endzone for Jeffery that was almost picked off by Shields. Sure, Jeffery was called for 3 OPIs, but it should have been at least 5, and this non-call was another big play in the game. Before Shields can intercept, Jeffery grabs the inside of his shoulder pads and is pulling Shields backwards before the ball arrives. By the time Shields can get his hands on the ball, he's already horizontal to the field. Smart play by Jeffery, because it saved a sure INT and he wasn't flagged. The Bears were able to salvage a FG and make it a one score game. On the play, though, Evan Rodriguez was wide open at the 5. He was in front of Jeffery, and could have walked into the endzone, yet Cutler elected to lob the ball to a well-covered Jeffery. Terrible read.

*A big part of the game was Alshon Jeffery pushing off every play. He made it work a couple times...once on the INT-saving play, another by grabbing Shields facemask, slinging him to the ground, and getting the refs to call the penalty on Shields. But 3 other times he was called OPI. I thought they were pretty obvious, because Jeffery wasn't open, Cutler would lob the ball, and Jeffery would shove Shields away and then make the catch. Two things. One, it was funny to hear Troy Aikman bitch about the calls, because he benefitted from the greatest push-off artist in NFL history (Michael Irvin). Two, do the Bears actually have diagrammed pass plays? It seemed like every play was to have Jeffery or Marshall jog to an area of the field, stand there, and shove the defender to the ground as Cutler lobs the ball up.

*Mason Crosby single-handedly kept the Bears in the game. If he hits either of those short FGs, the Bears have no chance to win. I would much rather have Olindo Mare on the Packers at this point.

*What was up with the Bears final possession? Yeah, the odds of tying the game were about 75:1, but a little effort would have been nice. As usual, the Bears had already burned 2 timeouts "getting the play in" on offense, and they were out of timeouts at this point. But a 5-yard checkdown to Forte in the middle of the field probably wasn't a good drive-starter. The next play looked like an old Sega Genesis Madden glitch, where the QB freezes up and no matter what button you hit nothing happens until the QB gets sacked. What was Cutler doing? Then to not get another play off before the final gun was inexcusable. Did Cutler just give up? Thats what it looked like.
 
Solid observations on McCarthy. His achilles heel is questionable play calling. The crazy punt return call and the delay of game at the 1 were just flat out asinine. As a perfect example of what to do in that situation, Tom Brady in last nights game against the 49ers ran the ball down inside the 1 and immediately hurried the team to the line of scrimmage and called a run right up the middle. The 49ers were caught off guard and Woodhead walked into the endzone untouched.

Crosby and his missed kicks should have bought him a one way ticket out of town at this point. The Packers are still winning the games where he is missing kicks so the cry for his head isn't as loud as it would be otherwise. I would still be shocked if Thompson allows him to go into the playoffs as the Packers kicker though.
 
I counted 3 screens total yesterday with a couple going to Armando Allen.

I thought the offensive PIs were debatable. The one in the endzone and the facemask not so much, but the others were. Every WR in the league does it. You see it called once per game usually. But yesterday the kid had three. Hes young, and he will learn to do it better, but yesterday was a shit show.

I think the problem with the Bears passing game is obvious. Jay does not trust anyone other than Marshall. Nobody other than Brandon can get any real seperation. And Earl was hurt too, his other blanky. And when someone does get seperation, he misses them or he is getting sacked.
 
the news is the Bears offensive line is sucking, its not all on Cutler

I was surprised by the throwbacks yesterday though LOL

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I counted 3 screens total yesterday with a couple going to Armando Allen.

I thought the offensive PIs were debatable. The one in the endzone and the facemask not so much, but the others were. Every WR in the league does it. You see it called once per game usually. But yesterday the kid had three. Hes young, and he will learn to do it better, but yesterday was a shit show.

I think the problem with the Bears passing game is obvious. Jay does not trust anyone other than Marshall. Nobody other than Brandon can get any real seperation. And Earl was hurt too, his other blanky. And when someone does get seperation, he misses them or he is getting sacked.

What was even remotely debatable about those OPI calls?
 
The fact every we in the league does that. James Jones extended his arm on the TD pass. IMO the tricky tack calls, but that's not why they lost.

They weren't ticky tack in the least though. Both were blatant shoves and the one in the end zone was reminiscent of Golden Tate on the fail mary.

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The one in the end zone ain't close. I know that. But just going off of memory, I didn't think they were that blatant. He is just so big. Straight man press coverage you would expect the pushing and contact. I didn't think they were that big of a deal.

Lol at the picture. I kinda like it. But it happened on a play where 37 got a hand full of jersey.
 
The Bears are shit; what an absolute mirage their early season record was. Their defence did its best to hold things together but sooner or later they had to dive into the backups at O-line and their non-existent receiving options became painfully obvious to everyone. Lucky for them they play two absolutely dead teams and can possibly still win to get in, otherwise they might as well have started booking their January vacation last night.
 
Need a new coach IMO.

Nothing pisses me off more than watching this team implode and Fox cutting to a shot of Lovie, standing with the same look on his face as stoic as ever.

At least frown or yell at players/referees or something.

I like Lovie but he's just not the coach for this Bears team IMO
 
Senser,

I went to Bavarian Lodge on Friday. Twas good.

I don't go as often as I like, but I was there a month ago. Still a great place. I usually get the pick 3 combo meal and get a few different things each time. I'm impressed that their pork roast is always juicy.
 
The one in the end zone ain't close. I know that. But just going off of memory, I didn't think they were that blatant. He is just so big. Straight man press coverage you would expect the pushing and contact. I didn't think they were that big of a deal.

I think what makes it worse is that the Bears don't really run any pass plays. Its more like street ball. It also doesn't help that Jeffery was never open on any of the passes Cutler threw to him except for the bomb that resulted in a 40-yard DPI. After the game, people were asking if they had ever seen a WR get 3 OPI calls on them in one game...but how many QBs would keep throwing the ball to a WR who is covered, forcing his WR to commit OPI penalties?
 
I think what makes it worse is that the Bears don't really run any pass plays. Its more like street ball. It also doesn't help that Jeffery was never open on any of the passes Cutler threw to him except for the bomb that resulted in a 40-yard DPI. After the game, people were asking if they had ever seen a WR get 3 OPI calls on them in one game...but how many QBs would keep throwing the ball to a WR who is covered, forcing his WR to commit OPI penalties?

Everything you said was correct and also the the effect of a bunch of shit. Yes, their passing tree sucks, and very limited, not like I blame em though. With the offensive line play, their tree has been reduced to slants, hitches, and go routes. When was the last time we saw the Bears run a real fucking route?

Which leads to Alshon never getting any real seperation. I don't know, just a bad day offensively for a bad offense. I fully understand what youre saying abut Jay and why he would keep going there. But I just dont kniw what other choices he had really. Alshon covered, Brandon doubled and telling Jay to go to Alshon, and Devin not getting a look after Jay threw that pick in the first half. Throw in Matt Forte getting paid and now he is unable to beat LBs coming out of the backfield. Not a single option sounds good.
 
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